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Arab IDF soldier: 'I love this country and want to contribute'

"Dozens" from a population of over 1.5 million is terrible
He admits that his friends gave him "a strange look" when he first made the decision. "But after I told them about my experiences in the army they were convinced to also join."

At the current rate of increase in less than a dozen years 10,000 Arab Israelis a year will volunteer to join the IDF.

Israel could draft the arabs but then the israelis would know that there would be alot of dead israelis when the drafted arab soldiers will turn their guns -
Not everyone has "hate engraved in stone as a birthright" as I believe you put it last week.
 
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IDF's Muslim soldiers being sworn in on the Koran.

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If this will lead/contribute to a normalization between Israel and Palestine and thus the wider Arab world, we as Arabs (non-Israeli Arabs) should not pass any quick judgements or judge individual decisions as much as we might disagree in principle. Personally, if I was an Israeli Arab, I would never volunteer as long as Israel occupies the West Bank and does not recognize an Palestinian state but that is another discussion.

My belief is that the more the Israeli Arabs become active in all segments of Israeli society the more they can potentially turn the country away from the road that for instance Ultra-Orthodox Jews have taken and in a more "pro-Palestine" and "pro-Arab" direction. Or show the most extreme Zionists that Israeli Arabs can be loyal citizens and that Arabs are not monsters or whatever some of them might believe in.

On a more practical level I also believe that Israeli Arab soldiers (Bedouins as well as non-Beduins) have a lesser tendency to turn toward violence in case of a conflict situation with Palestinians.

Anyway naturally a two-state solution is the best thing currently possible.
 
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He admits that his friends gave him "a strange look" when he first made the decision. "But after I told them about my experiences in the army they were convinced to also join."

At the current rate of increase in less than a dozen years 10,000 Arab Israelis a year will volunteer to join the IDF.

Not everyone has "hate engraved in stone as a birthright" as I believe you put it last week.

it is nothing numbers, the rate of the arab population increasing in israel is faster

and once again its the reason why jews in israel apart from the worthless haredis have national service and the arabs don't

the IDF know that if arabs are drafted they will turn their guns on the Israelis

you posting some pictures of some kapo arabs wont change that
 
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Out of the 175,000 active IDF soldiers are several hundred Arab Israelis who have chosen to serve.

A battalion of soldiers crawls across the desert sand with assault rifles cocked. It's a routine exercise, but these are no ordinary troops - they are Arabs who have chosen to fight for the Jewish state.

While the vast majority of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) are Jews - and nearly all their conflicts have been against Arab nations - a trickle of Israeli Arabs volunteer for the army.

Most are Beduin, a community native to southern Israel. But some are other Arab citizens of Israel, the descendants of Arabs who remained in Israel during and after the 1948 War of Independence.

"Why did I decide to enlist?" asks Sergeant Yusef Salutta, a 20-year-old Arab from the north of Israel who serves with the Desert Reconnaissance Battalion. The army rarely grants journalists access to the unit.

"Because I'm from this country and I love the country and I want to contribute," he said. "Everyone should enlist, anybody who lives here should enlist."

The military conscripts young Jewish men and women, but not Arabs. It does not report exact numbers of Arab volunteers, but officials say there are several hundred among the 175,000 active personnel.

A silver Star of David necklace hung around Salutta's neck, and he chatted with fellow-soldiers in Hebrew.

Still, some Israeli Arabs see volunteering for the military as betrayal.

"This phenomenon, we totally reject it," said Ahmad Tibi, an Israeli-Arab member of parliament.

"What could go through a person's mind when he serves against his people? We try to educate people that this is not the way."

Volunteers say their families are supportive, and that they are prepared to take criticism.

"I don't care about them," said Salutta. "I need to be part of the country, to be like everybody else."

His friend, 20 year old Sergeant Saleh Khalil, also from a village up north, said his contribution to the army may help his future.

"I enlisted in order to contribute to the country, because I live in this country. The country helps us and I will have a good future," Khalil said.

The head of the IDF Minorities Unit, Colonel Wajdi Sarhan, said some Israeli-Arabs saw service as a way to improve their chances in life.

"(It) can get easier when you hold an Israeli soldier or reservist ID card," said Sarhan. "To be a soldier in the army, it's actually an identity certificate of Israeli-ness, which can help integration."

He said some recruits faced threats and harassment at home from fellow Israeli-Arabs. In some cases, they are allowed to travel to and from military duty out of uniform.

When it comes to Israel's decades-old conflict with Palestinians, there is no question - if they are required to fight, they must.
"Anyone who decided to be a combat soldier in such a unit took this into consideration in advance," said Sarhan.

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/A-look-at-Israeli-Arabs-in-the-IDF-474592

@Archdemon @Natan @Solomon2 @500 @mike2000 is back

Well its their country. Its their choice to serve it.
 
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If this will lead/contribute to a normalization between Israel and Palestine and thus the wider Arab world, we as Arabs (non-Israeli Arabs) should not pass any quick judgements or judge individual decisions as much as we might disagree in principle. Personally, if I was an Israeli Arab, I would never volunteer as long as Israel occupies the West Bank and does not recognize an Palestinian state but that is another discussion.

My belief is that the more the Israeli Arabs become active in all segments of Israeli society the more they can potentially turn the country away from the road that for instance Ultra-Orthodox Jews have taken and in a more "pro-Palestine" and "pro-Arab" direction. Or show the most extreme Zionists that Israeli Arabs can be loyal citizens and that Arabs are not monsters or whatever some of them might believe in.

On a more practical level I also believe that Israeli Arab soldiers (Bedouins as well as non-Beduins) have a lesser tendency to turn toward violence in case of a conflict situation with Palestinians.

Anyway naturally a two-state solution is the best thing currently possible.

the two state solution is getting impossible the israelis are even trying to steal land thst palestinians have ownership papers for
 
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the two state solution is getting impossible the israelis are even trying to steal land thst palestinians have ownership papers for

I have no illusions but I am trying to always look at potential positives in any given situation. If a group of people want to change a society or the country they live in, they must participate in its inner workings as much as they might disagree with the country's instiuttions and ideology. Otherwise they will remain non-influential and irrelevant. A military option is not realistic currently so you take what you can get if you are sensible.

If I was a Palestinian teenager living in the West Bank I would rather want Israeli Arab soldiers patrolling next to me than some hardcore Ethiopian Zionist or Polish Zionist. I tend to believe that the Israeli Arab would be more understanding and not only that I could communicate with him in my mother tongue and his. No brainer if you ask me.
 
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I have no illusions but I am trying to always look at potential positives in any given situation. If a group of people want to change a society or the country they live in, they must participate in its inner workings as much as they might disagree with the country's instiuttions and ideology. Otherwise they will remain non-influential and irrelevant. A military option is not realistic currently so you take what you can get if you are sensible.

If I was a Palestinian teenager living in the West Bank I would rather want Israeli Arab soldiers patrolling next to me than some hardcore Ethiopian Zionist or Polish Zionist. I tend to believe that the Israeli Arab would be more understanding and not only that I could communicate with him in my mother tongue and his. No brainer if you ask me.

Your talking collaborators approach!!

through out human history these people have been condemned as traitors

the israelis trying to give the Palestinian prisoners arab collaborator jailors is still occupation
 
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Your talking collaborators approach!!

through out human history these people have been condemned as traitors

the israelis trying to give the Palestinian prisoners arab collaborator jailors is still occupation

No, you obviously don't understand my post.

Also I think I already made it very clear, in my first post moreover, that I would personally never consider taking such a move if I were an Israeli Arab. I don't support such policies or decisions but you have to look at the positives and I argued why that is for all to see. Not sure how you can insinuate from this, that I somehow support this decision.
 
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I will take dal roti anyday over Arabic or Jewish cuisine. Thank you. But this is not about me, I guess.

No you won't. Talk is cheap. Go fight in the frontiers, live in the harshest environments and try surviving on the crap they are fed by your corrupt army.
 
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