Anybody with a contact in BIDA, BEZA?

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Whatever makes you warm and fuzzy all over. We know which cluster-f*ck of a nation is the bottom of the barrel in everything, it's better you compare your sad sh*t-show with Bangladesh and find some solace - instead of comparing with China and be humiliated at every turn, which you lot should be doing anyway.

I touched a raw nerve there, didn't I? Bangladesh is an LDC from where people illegally migrate to India- which, according to you is a clusterf*ck. That says a lot about you lot- how pathetic do you have to be to jump fences to go to such a country?

I saw you crying about ''hypothetical border crossing Indians'' not being shot on another thread. How sad. I hope your friends who you have mentioned there can help you find some solace.

If I make socks and add value using manual labor, why should I care about manufacturing those machines locally, which is of no benefit to me? I will let Germans or Swiss do it because they do a far better job and are experts at it, we are not Kanjoos like some people that we have to copy and manufacture third rate copies of Ritter or Toyoda machines to shave a few bucks off every month for production.

But you are Kanjoosi enough to import second-hand machinery. Who exactly are you trying to fool? The failure of your industry to produce textile machinery spares (at BMTF or wherever) have been reported & discusses in papers published by ADB/WB/JICA.

Anyway, why should we bother? We are the second largest supplier of textile fibre machinery to Bangladesh. Just another nice addition to that huge trade deficit.

You meanwhile can keep shouting down that lone Bangladeshi member who wants his country to industrialize.

This is the exact reason your third rate Apparel industry could not compete with that of Bangladesh, because you don't get the concepts of efficiency and reliability

The only reason why you have one decent export Industry is by having ''duty free and quota free'' market access to developed markets by virtue of being an LDC. I mean how pathetic is that? ''Buy this shirt saar because we poor saar''...

In literally any other field we do 200-1000 times better than you. Pharma. Electronics, IT. Some 14X your total exports (service+merchandise) There is a reason why you are in the bottom of that ECI ranking.

The less said about your competency the better. Does your great Chittagong port still have a container dwell time of 9 days? And the ministry of Shipping here is complaining about JNPT having a 36 hour dwell time, lol.

Most local motorcycle companies (Runner, Walton) use CAD CAM, Clay models and have their own R&D units to develop their own designs. Which is far better than what Hero, TVS and Bajaj did back in the day when they started out. Dhokeybaaji from Mitroon Desh as usual. These factory footages have been shown in videos in this section more times than I can count.

Thank you for introducing me to this ''Automotive Giant'': ''Runner''. Aka rebranded ''Dayang'' or whatever Chinese make.

$17 million worth of motorcycles manufactured annually. That's like 15K bikes or 2 days of Bajaj production. Pretty sure they can afford all that R&D.

What's that plant area? 18 acres? lol. Many vendors of one of those Indian manufacturers you criticize have larger plants for component manufacture.

Your friggin' Sanghi boasts about having superior "Indian Two-whealarr Tek-na-lajee" doesn't hold water as all Indian motorcycle brands (Including Hero) stole Japanese tech and judging by quality did a $hitty job to boot on the copying. TVS-Suzuki and Bajaj-Kawasaki did the same, broke off partnership after stealing technology. In any case, keep on harping about superior Indian under-200-cc tech to us Bangladeshis, I will help fan the flames.

300K motorcycles consuming country saying this to 21 million motorcycles consuming country lol. India exports $2 billion worth of motorcycles to markets much developed than yours.

Bajaj showcases updated Pulsar RS200 in Turkey

Anyway according to your own logic, why even manufacture those $17 million worth of motorcycles? Just let the Indians do it because they do a far better job manufacturing billions worth of them. Are you Kanjoos or something?

Runner or Jumper or whatever do not even produce 50K motorcycles combined. And you are boasting about non-existent R&D.

Fret not, Bangladeshi customers will vote with their pocketbooks when they see the mentality of "Superior" Indian's like you online.

Your lot voted this, after all that hullabaloo about BSF, Barrages, and Bull-crap. Just like how they vote for the same party which beat them up for criticizing India.

Stop making empty threats, we know your kind too well. Maybe ask Runner Jumper Swimmer whatever to manufacture a decent 100K bikes.

Try to cut up ISRO launch vehicles for people to eat, they can have that with Pav-bhajee and some Gol Gappa...

Is that what you are planning, to cut up that 3X costly Rooppur Nuclear Power plant? Consuming fuel rods isn't good for your health, kid.

'Rooppur plant's cost higher'

Better stats than your Modi propaganda IT cell.

We all know that, with worse data analysis skills than a high school student. But hey, it's Bangladesh- can you really expect better?

 

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Says the Hindu that is ruled by the BJP

Name me 1 develop Hindu country, i will wait for a million years for your answer.

I am not a Hindu, neither do I take pride in what my co-religionists do. That kind of tribalism is way too outdated for the twenty-first century, don't you think?

I don't see how one can claim the achievements of another ethnicity as their own just because they happen to be co-religionists. Your co-religionists who happened to be your former compatriots had no qualms steamrolling you for simply demanding equal status for your language and your people. Maybe religion isn't such an unifying factor afterall.

That probably is the reason why you didn't see anyone from the religion I follow blockading roads and rioting in the name of their co-religionists being persecuted by ISIS in Iraq or Syria. Quite different from what you see in some Save Gaza protests.

And as for the ''Hindu'' majority state, it has more scientific, industrial and technological advancement in comparison with any Islamic country, even ones which have 4-5X it's per capita GDP. I rest my case.

 

[jamahir]

Again I don't see how he is exaggerating. Credibility matters.

Credibility like VK Saraswat, former chief of DRDO who as regards computing declared in 2010 that DRDO will develop an indigenous "futuristic" operating system for the Indian military, scientific and other government needs and banks and the team he set up for this has nothing to show for eleven years later now in 2021 ? Other than that this is his "credibility". Note the underlined :

VIBHA's advisory board includes Vijay Kumar Saraswat, former head of Indian defense research and now chancellor of Jawaharlal Nehru University here. The former chairs of India's Space Commission and its Atomic Energy Commission are VIBHA "patrons." Structural biologist Shekhar Mande, director-general of CSIR, is VIBHA's vice president.

Saraswat—who says he firmly believes in the power of gemstones to influence wellbeing and destiny—is proud of the achievements of ancient Hindu science: "We should rediscover Indian systems which existed thousands of years back," he says. Mande shares that pride. "We are a race which is not inferior to any other race in the world," he says. "Great things have happened in this part of the world." Mande insists that VIBHA is not antiscientific, however: "We want to tell people you have to be rational in your life and not believe in irrational myths." He does not see a rise of pseudoscience in the past 4 years—"We have always had that"—and says part of the problem is that the press is now paying more attention to the occasional bizarre claim. "If journalists don't report it, actually that would be perfect," he says.

And what is VIBHA ? :

New Delhi—The most widely discussed talk at the Indian Science Congress, a government-funded annual jamboree held in Jalandhar in January, wasn't about space exploration or information technology, areas in which India has made rapid progress. Instead, the talk celebrated a story in the Hindu epic Mahabharata about a woman who gave birth to 100 children, citing it as evidence that India's ancient Hindu civilization had developed advanced reproductive technologies. Just as surprising as the claim was the distinguished pedigree of the scientist who made it: chemist G. Nageshwar Rao, vice-chancellor of Andhra University in Visakhapatnam. "Stem cell research was done in this country thousands of years ago," Rao said.

His talk was widely met with ridicule. But Rao is hardly the only Indian scientist to make such claims. In recent years, "experts" have said ancient Indians had spacecraft, the internet, and nuclear weapons—long before Western science came on the scene.

Such claims and other forms of pseudoscience rooted in Hindu nationalism have been on the rise since Prime Minister Narendra Modi came to power in 2014. They're not just an embarrassment, some researchers say, but a threat to science and education that stifles critical thinking and could hamper India's development. "Modi has initiated what may be called ‘Project Assault on Scientific Rationality,'" says Gauhar Raza, former chief scientist at the Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) here, a conglomerate of almost 40 national labs. "A religio-mythical culture is being propagated in the country's scientific institutions aggressively."

Some blame the rapid rise at least in part on Vijnana Bharati (VIBHA), the science wing of Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS), a massive conservative movement that aims to turn India into a Hindu nation and is the ideological parent of Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party. VIBHA aims to educate the masses about science and technology and harness research to stimulate India's development, but it also promotes "Swadeshi" (indigenous) science and tries to connect modern science to traditional knowledge and Hindu spirituality.

VIBHA receives generous government funding and is active in 23 of India's 29 states, organizing huge science fairs and other events; it has 20,000 so-called "team members" to spread its ideas and 100,000 volunteers—including many in the highest echelons of Indian science.

You want to assign credibility to idiots in high position like Saraswat and his comrades ? Just like to the exaggerating gentleman you quoted originally ? Just because someone is in high position it doesn't make them or their words automatically credible.

The Libya of Gaddafi. OK. Definitely has nothing to do with religion.

Gaddafi had written an essay before the 2011 invasion. Titled "Has Communism arrived yet ?". I think he would have not objected to someone's statement that Modern Communism is an evolution of prior progressive philosophies including Islam. In any case Libya had Direct Democracy system as its political arrangement. People ruling themselves which is one of the desires of Communism - "Withering away of the State".

Yes, Islam is superior to other traditional religions but with political, social, economic and technological evolution it can meld into Communism.

And didn't see this?

Intel's New Rs. 1,100 Crore R&D Centre in Bengaluru

1. The article is from 2017. What has this new 170 million dollar "R&D" center achieved till date now in 2021 ? Any novel, new microprocessor ? And new operating system since the "R&D" center is also supposedly involved in computer software development as quoted in the article ?

2. The new "R&D" center was supposed to take in 3000 more employees - most of them computer engineers - other than the 10,000 computer / electronics engineers already employed in Intel India. This addition of 3000 more employees seems to me more like a political engagement to curry favor with the Indian government.

3. And this :

The fresh investment is in addition to $2 billion (roughly Rs. 12,852 crores) the chip maker had invested in the country till 2016.

So Intel's 2 billion dollars plus the new 170 million dollars investment in its India branch has given exactly what new and novel computer technologies to the world ? Intel hasn't even established a processor fab in India.

So ISA is the only thing required for microprocessor design, it's open-source as well. Wonder why every tom, dick and harry didn't come up with their own design.

1. An independent processor is defined by its instruction set, its memory system interaction, its I/O system and a few other things like inclusion of multimedia processing. This is what separates x86 from ARM, SPARC from RISC-V etc.

2. When we know that Shakti is really the Indian implementation of the open source, non-Indian-origin RISC-V project we should acknowledge that it is not Indian design.

3. Every Tom, Dick and Harry won't come up with their own processor design, despite them may having PhD in computer engineering, because they either are not prepared to put in the long intellectual effort or are simply incapable of designing and system-level thinking. Either of these two reasons is why the two million computer engineers in India haven't been able to design their own. But if its the former thing - "not prepared to" - then those few can be guided by a designer to put their engineering skills to contribute to designing a new and novel processor.

And you want India to have one?

So if Chinese haven't designed an indigenous processor should it mean that an Indian individual or group shouldn't design it as well ?

$17 million worth of motorcycles manufactured annually. That's like 15K bikes or 2 days of Bajaj production. Pretty sure they can afford all that R&D.

Leave aside bikes all privately-owned personal transport means ( cars and two-wheelers ) should be abolished in favor of mass public transport ( buses ) and taxis. This will drastically reduce accidents, pollution, crime, congestion and general chaos in the world. The fuel can remain petrol.

 

[SMX 3.0]

Yes, Islam is superior to other traditional religions but with political, social, economic and technological evolution it can meld into Communism.

End of discussion. Bye bye.

 

[jamahir]

End of discussion. Bye bye.

So you are not prepared to ask and learn. Bye bye.

 

[SMX 3.0]

So you are not prepared to ask and learn. Bye bye.

Maybe you should move to Kerala, our "secular" leftist government here gives pension & other benefits to Madrasa teachers like you.

 

[jamahir]

Maybe you should move to Kerala, our "secular" leftist government here gives pension & other benefits to Madrasa teachers like you.

How do you know I am a "madrasa teacher" ? I am a Communism preacher and many of the forum's members know that. I will quote how an Islamic scholar about hundred years ago in undivided India found similarities between Islam and Communism. This is from a 2016 thread of mine whose OP is an article by the Pakistani journalist Nadeem Paracha and is about Socialist / Communist activism among Muslims around the world since the early 1900s :

During the same period (1920s-30s), another (though lesser known) Islamic scholar in undivided India got smitten by the 1917 Russian revolution and Marxism.

Hafiz Rahman Sihwarwl saw Islam and Marxism sharing five elements in common: (1) prohibition of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of the privileged classes (2) organisation of the economic structure of the state to ensure social welfare (3) equality of opportunity for all human beings (4) priority of collective social interest over individual privilege and (5) prevention of the permanentising of class structure through social revolution.

The motivations for many of these themes he drew from the Qur’an, which he understood as seeking to create an economic order in which the rich pay excessive, though voluntary taxes (Zakat) to minimise differences in living standards.

In the areas that Sihwarwl saw Islam and communism diverge were Islam’s sanction of private ownership within certain limits, and in its refusal to recognise an absolutely classless basis of society.

He suggested that Islam, with its prohibition of the accumulation of wealth, is able to control the class structure through equality of opportunity.

Basically, both Sindhi and Sihwarwl had stumbled upon an Islamic concept of the social democratic welfare state.

And you should read in this 2015 thread of mine the Islamic origin of the modern marriage rights to women. The article is by an Indian Christian woman who married an Indian Muslim under Islamic marriage law because that better secured her socio-economic rights in case of divorce. I quote two sections :

When we examine marriage laws in their historic context, it is interesting to note that the universally accepted notion that marriages are contractual rather than sacramental originates in Muslim law, which was accepted by the French law only in the 1800s and incorporated into the English law in the 1850s and became part of codified Hindu law as late as 1955. Today it appears to be the most practical way of dealing with the institution of marriage. Treating marriage as a sacrament which binds the parties for life has resulted in some of the most discriminatory practices against women such as sati and denial of right to divorce and remarriage, even in the most adverse conditions.

The cornerstone of a Muslim marriage is consent, ejab-o-qubul (proposal and acceptance) and requires the bride to accept the marriage proposal on her own free will. This freedom to consent (or refuse), which was given to Muslim women 1,400 years ago, is still not available under Hindu law since sacramental rituals such as saptapadi and kanya dan (seven steps round the nuptial fire and gifting of the bride to the groom) still form essential ceremonies of a Hindu marriage. Even after the codification of Hindu law, the notion of consent is not built into the marriage ceremonies.

The contract of marriage (nikahnama) allows for negotiated terms and conditions, it can also include the right to a delegated divorce (talaq-e-tafweez) where the woman is delegated the right to divorce her husband if any of the negotiated terms and conditions are violated.

Mehr is another unique concept of Muslim law meant to safeguard the financial future of the wife. It is an obligation, not a choice, and can be in the form of cash, valuables or securities. While there is no ceiling, a minimum amount to provide her security after marriage must be stipulated. This is a more beneficial concept than streedhan which is given by choice and usually by the natal family. In addition to Mehr, at the time of divorce, a Muslim woman has the right to fair and reasonable settlement, and this is statutorily recognised under the Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Divorce) Act, 1986 as per the 2001 ruling of the Supreme Court in the Daniel Latifi case.

Though Muslim law stipulates many different ways to end a marriage, including a woman’s right to dissolve her marriage (khula), divorce by mutual consent (mubarra), delegated divorce (talaq-e-tafweez), judicial divorce (fasq) and dissolution under Muslim Marriage Act

No "madrasa teacher" will acknowledge all this and tell you all this.