Anti-India Protests Erupt in Kashmir Amid Deadly Fighting

[Joe Shearer]

On that I agree, one was frisked on airport just few days ago..

The others aren't frisked at airports because YOUR administration has gently hinted that they should not fly about here and there.

What is the secular point here.. i said all must be set as per their demands .. do you think they will go with India?aaaah your wet dreams

I gather that you have the enviable privilege of having 'dry' dreams? The point of secularism is that there is a sufficient body of evidence that the so-called leaders of the dissidents are hard-core fundamentalists, who have inflicted pain and injury on their own people for not conforming to their model of proper Islamic behaviour, dress and social positions. That is why they are not to be abandoned to these regressives.

 

[Eagle_Nest]

Yes, the Indian Union. The international border exists; that there are portions occupied by a military occupation does not vitiate those borders.

Its rather indian occupation, by use of force you occupied a territory you can't put Kasmir under so called indian union

 

[Joe Shearer]

Its rather indian occupation, by use of force you occupied a territory you can't put Kasmir under so called indian union

Once you have read up on the facts, come back to this discussion. I don't waste words on the ignorant.

 

[Eagle_Nest]

Once you have read up on the facts, come back to this discussion. I don't waste words on the ignorant.

I must say Infact you people are ignorant.. Facts are facts only when it is spoken, written by you, right?

 

[war&peace]

In India, they are known as Azad Kashmir and as the state of Jammu and Kashmir. The insurgency started in areas that have nothing to do with the Vale of Kashmir and stayed out of the Indian Union due to the support given to it by the Dominion of Pakistan. The records speak for themselves; there was peace thereafter, until 1989.



Ah, welcome back, Mr. 7 lakh Indian occupiers!

Absence of the militant struggle does not mean the oppression was not there, indian occupation forces were carrying out the worst atrocities and only a dishonest person can deny that. It was such a point when they decided to take weapons and also if they got some support from outside, it is totally okay because IOJ&K is a disputed territory as per UNO and no one buys the BS of integral part of India. Thus the world has a duty to help the oppressed people against the terrorist occupation forces.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I must say Infact you people are ignorant.. Facts are facts only when it is spoken, written by you, right?

When the alternative is an ignorant youngster who does not know the facts, yes.

Learn your subject. Until then, be humble.

Absence of the militant struggle does not mean the oppression was not there, indian occupation forces were carrying out the worst atrocities and only a dishonest person can deny that. It was such a point when they decided to take weapons and also if they got some support from outside, it is totally okay because IOJ&K is a disputed territory as per UNO and no one buys the BS of integral part of India. Thus the world has a duty to help the oppressed people against the terrorist occupation forces.

There is no dishonesty here. There was no record of any complaint before 1989. Look it up for yourself. Even the dissident leaders who crossed over did so after 1989, after losing in elections.

As for 'support' from outside, 'support' does not include arms, ammunition, military training, and open cooperation between the military and armed terrorists. Do you realise that this pretty little myth has already been destroyed by world opinion, and that Pakistan's stout resistance has been worn down steadily?

The world does not have a duty to support terrorism. The world has a duty to suppress terrorism. And that is what the world is doing. Please look at the steps that have been taken in the last 12 month period, and judge for yourself. We don't owe you a patient explanation of what is happening to you, and what will continue to happen; you have to figure it out for yourself.

 

[Eagle_Nest]

When the alternative is an ignorant youngster who does not know the facts, yes.

Learn your subject. Until then, be humble.

I love to be humble .. but i must say you people are ignorant not me because you never admit your fault

 

[war&peace]

When the alternative is an ignorant youngster who does not know the facts, yes.

Learn your subject. Until then, be humble.



There is no dishonesty here. There was no record of any complaint before 1989. Look it up for yourself. Even the dissident leaders who crossed over did so after 1989, after losing in elections.

As for 'support' from outside, 'support' does not include arms, ammunition, military training, and open cooperation between the military and armed terrorists. Do you realise that this pretty little myth has already been destroyed by world opinion, and that Pakistan's stout resistance has been worn down steadily?

The world does not have a duty to support terrorism. The world has a duty to suppress terrorism. And that is what the world is doing. Please look at the steps that have been taken in the last 12 month period, and judge for yourself. We don't owe you a patient explanation of what is happening to you, and what will continue to happen; you have to figure it out for yourself.

So you are calling Bhagat Singh a terrorist?
BTW I totally agree with you that world does not support terrorism and rather it wants to suppress it. And in IOJ&K, India security forces are the terrorist forces and perpetrating state sponsored terrorism. Kashmiri Freedom Fighters are struggling for their right and we stand by them.

 

[Eagle_Nest]

The world does not have a duty to support terrorism. The world has a duty to suppress terrorism. And that is what the world is doing.

No world is not willing to suppress terrorism,else kashmir got freedom earlier.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I love to be humble .. but i must say you people are ignorant not me because you never admit your fault

I am happy to admit my fault if you can point them out.

If you are referring to India admitting her faults, that is a job for the Government of India spokespersons, not for me.

So you are calling Bhagat Singh a terrorist?
BTW I totally agree with you that world does not support terrorism and rather it wants to suppress it. And in IOJ&K, India security forces are the terrorist forces and perpetrating state sponsored terrorism.

Yes, Bhagat Singh was a terrorist.

And no, Indian security forces are not the terrorist forces; disguising things under the mask of 'state-sponsored terrorism' is merely the counter-part of the famous concept of non-state actors. Nobody is fooled.

 

[Eagle_Nest]

I am happy to admit my fault if you can point them out.

If you are referring to India admitting her faults, that is a job for the Government of India spokespersons, not for me.

Your government is from you people so you and your government both are responsible for ignorance regarding Kashmir issue

 

[Joe Shearer]

No world is not willing to suppress terrorism,else kashmir got freedom earlier.

This is why I hesitate to engage in discussions with the unknown. What did you mean by that? How does the world NOT being willing to suppress terrorism have anything to do with Kashmir getting freedom EARLIER?

Isn't that a contradiction?

Your government is from you people so you and your government both are responsible for ignorance regarding Kashmir issue

Well, I'm not ignorant, so neither is my government. Since you don't know the sequence of events in 1947-48, you seem to be the ignorant one. I don't see any reason to respond to your posts, unless you can present a summary account of what you think happened.

Sorry, but I need to sift through the genuine posts and bombast trying to project a premature patriotism.

 

[war&peace]

I love to be humble .. but i must say you people are ignorant not me because you never admit your fault

Remember bhai,

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[Eagle_Nest]

This is why I hesitate to engage in discussions with the unknown. What did you mean by that? How does the world NOT being willing to suppress terrorism have anything to do with Kashmir getting freedom EARLIER?

Isn't that a contradiction?

Using pallet guns on innocents/childs, Killing youngsters in fake encounters, rapes is not terrorism.. It is done by your military in Kashmir

This is why I hesitate to engage in discussions with the unknown. What did you mean by that? How does the world NOT being willing to suppress terrorism have anything to do with Kashmir getting freedom EARLIER?

Isn't that a contradiction?



Well, I'm not ignorant, so neither is my government. Since you don't know the sequence of events in 1947-48, you seem to be the ignorant one. I don't see any reason to respond to your posts, unless you can present a summary account of what you think happened.

Sorry, but I need to sift through the genuine posts and bombast trying to project a premature patriotism.

As you wish!

Remember bhai,

Allama iqbal! Pure thinking pure love​

 

[Joe Shearer]

Using pallet guns on innocents/childs, Killing youngsters in fake encounters, rapes is not terrorism.. It is done by your military in Kashmir

Pellet guns are used on riotous mobs. It is a formerly common practice, now increasingly in disuse after being recognised as a deliberate attempt at attracting sympathy, to push some young people in front of stone pelters and armed attackers, so that they are the first to be hit. They are used as human shields. This has been seen, denounced (by the people themselves), and incidents of pellet injuries has come down dramatically.

You don't seem to know what is going on, but just have half-formed opinions. Not your fault; your elders are to blame.

Killing youngsters in fake encounters is your allegation. All have been killed bearing weapons; many of them publicised themselves extensively on social media, again bearing guns. So where the fake encounters come in is not clear.

Several reports of rape have been investigated, and those where people from the security forces have been found guilty have been followed through to conviction.

So keep your crocodile tears to yourself.