Anti Aircraft Carrier Missles for JF17 Thunder

[Archie]

A USN CBG consist of 16 warships, which will include 3-4 SSNs, 2-3 Cruisers 6-7 Destroyers and Similar number of frigates

A single American CBG carries over a 1000 SAMs and 64-90 Fighters

Even the much smaller Indian CBG will consist of 7-8 Warships having over 300 SAMs and 25-30 Fighters

Granted that PLAN can over whelm an Indian CBG in SCS,

But I dont see PN/PAF doing the same in Arabian sea

 

[45'22']

dear there must be some% of chances otherwise design build and wasting millions on this missile was for ? china is not that much stupid .

The missile is not bad.....
If 2 or 3 of them hit the a.c. then they might render it useless for a few days or might sink it if they hit at the right place

But Khan sahab,when we think about it in the Indo-Pak perspective,a lot of other things come into account like which fighter is launching it at what range and also the cbg of carrier which will comprise of destroyers,frigates and submarines
+ac's own defence system which is itself state of art

If u take all this into account you will know it would be quite difficult for the jf17 to fire the cm400akg

 

[Imran Khan]

The missile is not bad.....
If 2 or 3 of them hit the a.c. then they might render it useless for a few days or might sink it if they hit at the right place

But Khan sahab,when we think about it in the Indo-Pak perspective,a lot of other things come into account like which fighter is launching it at what range and also the cbg of carrier which will comprise of destroyers,frigates and submarines
+ac's own defence system which is itself state of art

If u take all this into account you will know it would be quite difficult for the jf17 to fire the cm400akg

indo pak war of words only no real war case closed

 

[UKBengali]

PAF would need a missile with a range of several hundreds of kms AND be launching hundreds at the carrier at the same time to stand any chance of hitting the carrier. The problem is that a carrier is a moving target and so the chances of being able to hit a carrier, even with hundreds of missiles launched, is actually close to zero.

To be able to successfully hit a carrier would require in excess of 100 hundred aircraft being sent out at the same time. Around half would be fighters that would deal with the carriers fighter escorts and any aircraft the IAF can also send out, and the rest would be tasked with launching their missiles at both the carriers and the escort ships.

 

[45'22']

indo pak war of words only no real war case closed

Khan sahab.... war kaun chahta hai
Let's hope there is no war and peace prevails

 

[Sankpal]

PAF would need a missile with a range of several hundreds of kms AND be launching hundreds at the carrier at the same time to stand any chance of hitting the carrier. The problem is that a carrier is a moving target and so the chances of being able to hit a carrier, even with hundreds of missiles launched, is actually close to zero.

To be able to successfully hit a carrier would require in excess of 100 hundred aircraft being sent out at the same time. Around half would be fighters that would deal with the carriers fighter escorts and any aircraft the IAF can also send out, and the rest would be tasked with launching their missiles at both the carriers and the escort ships.

Bhai, where were you?

We need your more important thoughts ....

 

[Aarush]

i would say extremely very very extremely difficult to damage a carrier ..let alone sink it....
carrier is protected by bunch of ships with their own defence system having scores of SAM + fighter aircraft which can neutralize any incoming threat ..missile or fighter aircraft way before it reaches to carrier plus carrier also have its own defence system....that fires hundred rounds of bullets<Gatling Guns>for close defence..apart from SAM...if somehow SAM's have missed the target.... .. ...One radar will locate the target and other outgoing bullet and where the line meets....BOOM.....

and let imagine if somehow fighter reaches near to AC and hits it with missile..AC is big enough to have a significant damage..let alone sink...
plus it will escorted by submarines, anti submarine weapons..so any threat from underwater is also neutralized.
Hitting a AC with Cruise or ballistic missile is also very difficult because it has to overcome first the defence then hit the AC but AC is a moving target...so its very very tough to hit it....
In other word....its a Wishful thinking to sink a carrier..

PAF would need a missile with a range of several hundreds of kms AND be launching hundreds at the carrier at the same time to stand any chance of hitting the carrier. The problem is that a carrier is a moving target and so the chances of being able to hit a carrier, even with hundreds of missiles launched, is actually close to zero.

To be able to successfully hit a carrier would require in excess of 100 hundred aircraft being sent out at the same time. Around half would be fighters that would deal with the carriers fighter escorts and any aircraft the IAF can also send out, and the rest would be tasked with launching their missiles at both the carriers and the escort ships.

this is called Suicide Mission......

 

[Hyperion]

Btw, this may not be a carrier killer, however, it surely is a nightmare for every ship in a carrier battle group........ it's not as if the missile is designed JUST for a carrier...... several of these can knock out several destroyers as well.............. whatever the case, it's a potent enough weapon (in large numbers) to dissuade any country with one to three carrier battle groups....

Pakistan possessing 200 - 300 of these will definitely make any navy think twice before engaging in any hostile activities. In military doctrine, that's a win win.

 

[UKBengali]

this is called Suicide Mission......

That is why I said to be able to successfully hit the new generation of Indian carriers would need in excess of 100 aircraft.

This would be the whole of the modern aircraft in PAF in action just to sink one aircraft carrier. The cost would not be worth it as most of the PAF fighters will never make it back.

 

[Bhasad Singh Mundi]

dear there must be some% of chances otherwise design build and wasting millions on this missile was for ? china is not that much stupid .

imaran bhai, duniya runs on propaganda.

 

[xyxmt]

Now to get close to the Ac/C, first the FC1 will have to get past the Mig29K, if it does, it would probably become fish food by the Air defence of the destroyers, if it survives that, then it will have to contend with the ships defence.... Unfortunately due to the range of the weapon and engagement scenario, the enemy aircraft will have to most likely contend with surface to air missiles and Mig29K simultaneously....Long range Cruise missile or a submarine on a suicide mission has better chances...

I just have an innocent question, does FC-1 have be right on top of the carrier before it can deploy the weapon.

 

[Imran Khan]

imaran bhai, duniya runs on propaganda.

i agree but still what they did R&D yaar at least any tests or any bla bla

 

[Manindra]

I just have an innocent question, does FC-1 have be right on top of the carrier before it can deploy the weapon.

Missile does have enough range to fired from safe distance.

 

[OrionHunter]

Is the OP suffering from severe insecurity ?
THis thread, complemented by the nuke on a f16 thread?

The bombast spewed out by our Pakistani friends is spectacular in scope. Everything they've got in their armory is invincible. Oh yeah! And their pilots they claim are the hottest and the best in the world! And that's an unbeatable combo! So guys, be afraid. Very afraid.....

 

[wadi79]

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JF17 Thunder's strategic , weapon

Considering the Importance of the weapons , it makes the Aircraft carriers an obsolete Technology

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Someone send the memo to the PLAN which seems to be building more aircraft carriers, not knowing that the money is going waste. Seems to be a case of the right hand not knowing what the left is doing - one arm is making aircraft carriers even as the other arm has already made them obsolete.

In another thread, this chap talks about "F-16 + nuclear weapons = invincible combo". Who talks about weapons of mass destruction capable of killing millions in such an offhand manner, except Zaidu the Great and Hafiss the pigLeT. Seriously, what's wrong with this guy?!

On another note, a piece of advice to all the war-minded people trying to 'deter' India. Pakistan doesn't face any external threat - other than in the heroin-fuelled dreams of Zaidu and Hafiss. I think we can all agree that Pakistan's armed forces are fairly competent and can deal with an external threat. Your real threat comes from within. Stop funding terrorists/strategic-assets/non-state actors in other countries (and your own) and spend that money to health and education instead. Pakistan would be infinitely more secure.