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Another Saudi blows himself up in Iraq

There is both an apology for Iran and denial of its destructive role at the same time. You want everybody to be convinced that all under control by Al Maliki government. No Iranian backed militias still exist in Iraq. All their arms have now been buried, or burned -it doesn’t matter.

O.K you get that.
Which apology, you have no idea what I prefer so how can you draw conclusions whether i'm pro Iranian regime which i'm not.

The U.S dose RULE the whole ME, primarily the Gulf states. The word iron grip will be an understatement of the U.S mighty control of all that goes on here in ME. I am all honest about it. It is an energy hot zone for the world and they are getting their hands on it too tight. Though, I would choose American influence over Iranian influence any day.
The Arab republic states chose to be against US hegemony, it's not my problem the Arab monarchy states allowed the US to come and invade states that caused all this mess.
Now Iraq is balancing itself to keep itself safe since the military is too weak to deter any state, which will be weak for years to come considering rebuilding that will take a decade at least. No other choice they have.

O really they are also involved in suicide bombings and most are Iraqis who are involved in fighting because your Shia government was busy only in taking revenge from Sunnis and you got what you asked for if you would have been not doing what this Malikit dumbo did this would have never happened sunnis because of your government joined Al Qaeda and other groups

Zarvan the guy that feels bad for TTP when Pakistan attacks them.

Nothing that he did justifies suicide attacks against civilians, 'revenge' was a civil war started by ISIS back then ISI by Zarqawi's terror. What you're saying makes no sense either.
 
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Blowing urself up killing civilians isn't our habit or our culture, Saudi culture & ideology that they exported to vulnerable Iraqis that were exposed to brainwashing due to the 2003 war, a halt of education, loss of parents/family members. Such people are easy to fall for radicalization. IMO they should be put in artillery and sent back to their motherland where they learned this.

Where do you see us blowing others up around the world ? How many incidents, you can count them on 1 hand. As for the Iraqis in Syria that people will use as an excuse on this, they were living there after 2003 as refugees + they don't spray innocent people.

However the Saudi Vahabis hold medals in terrorism. i'm glad the Iranians whom you accuse of terror don't have this habit.

Although I have no respect for you, but I understand your anger and feel sorry for Iraqi victims. However, that doesn't mean you generalize a criminal on all of his people like that. Check this:

2005 Amman bombings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suspects
Jordanian police initially stated that there were at least four attackers (the fourth, a female, was later captured), including a couple, who spoke Iraqi-accented Arabic. A number of Iraqis were among the more than 100 suspects who were arrested in the following days. Police claimed to have found maps that were used in planning the attack. On November 12, Deputy Prime MinisterMarwan Muasher Jordan confirms the attackers were Iraqi and had entered the country three days before the attacks, and there were only three attackers.

On November 13, King Abdullah announced the arrest of a woman believed to be a fourth would-be suicide bomber, whose explosive belt failed to detonate. The three dead suicide bombers have been identified, and their names were announced by Deputy Prime Minister Muasher. They were Ali Hussein Ali al-Shamari (SAS Radisson), Rawad Jassem Mohammed Abed (Grand Hyatt), and Safaa Mohammed Ali (Days Inn). The woman in custody has been identified as Sajida Mubarak Atrous al-Rishawi. She was married to al-Shamari and intended to blow herself up at the Radisson. Muasher also said that she was the sister of a close aide of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi

If younare going to say Musaab is Jordanian, then yes he is but he was brainwashed and trained in Iraq by Iraqis.
 
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Although I have no respect for you, but I understand your anger and feel sorry for Iraqi victims. However, that doesn't mean you generalize a criminal on all of his people like that. Check this:

2005 Amman bombings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suspects
Jordanian police initially stated that there were at least four attackers (the fourth, a female, was later captured), including a couple, who spoke Iraqi-accented Arabic. A number of Iraqis were among the more than 100 suspects who were arrested in the following days. Police claimed to have found maps that were used in planning the attack. On November 12, Deputy Prime MinisterMarwan Muasher Jordan confirms the attackers were Iraqi and had entered the country three days before the attacks, and there were only three attackers.

On November 13, King Abdullah announced the arrest of a woman believed to be a fourth would-be suicide bomber, whose explosive belt failed to detonate. The three dead suicide bombers have been identified, and their names were announced by Deputy Prime Minister Muasher. They were Ali Hussein Ali al-Shamari (SAS Radisson), Rawad Jassem Mohammed Abed (Grand Hyatt), and Safaa Mohammed Ali (Days Inn). The woman in custody has been identified as Sajida Mubarak Atrous al-Rishawi. She was married to al-Shamari and intended to blow herself up at the Radisson. Muasher also said that she was the sister of a close aide of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi

If younare going to say Musaab is Jordanian, then yes he is but he was brainwashed and trained in Iraq by Iraqis.

I already know about this terror attack in Amman, and this is 1 of the few terror attacks done by Iraqis in foreign states which you can count on 1 hand, however when it comes to Saudi terrorism I need 5000 hands to count it, you know what I mean.
There even is a new vid of today, Saudi ISIS in Fallujah giving some speech, how come their society is so messed up that it pushes many of them into terror, terrorists is just 1 of their specialization there are many other fuckups created by their society however that's a different topic.

Their culture, habit, ideology which gets passed easily to vulnerable people, uneducated or in harsh situations due to war, loss of relatives ( as happened in Iraq to many ).
Sheikhs, scholars, muftis all of them spread this trash and mainly from the Saudi state, is it because they are 'vahabis' or something else ?
 
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I already know about this terror attack in Amman, and this is 1 of the few terror attacks done by Iraqis in foreign states which you can count on 1 hand, however when it comes to Saudi terrorism I need 5000 hands to count it, you know what I mean.
There even is a new vid of today, Saudi ISIS in Fallujah giving some speech, how come their society is so messed up that it pushes many of them into terror, terrorists is just 1 of their specialization there are many other fuckups created by their society however that's a different topic.

Their culture, habit, ideology which gets passed easily to vulnerable people, uneducated or in harsh situations due to war, loss of relatives ( as happened in Iraq to many ).
Sheikhs, scholars, muftis all of them spread this trash and mainly from the Saudi state, is it because they are 'vahabis' or something else ?
I live in Riyadh, I've been here for 8 months. I can tell, it's a normal society and it's people are much calmer than us in the Levant area.
 
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I live in Riyadh, I've been here for 8 months. I can tell, it's a normal society and it's people are much calmer than us in the Levant area.

Calm or not, what you experience in daily life makes no difference to what other things that happen in the same country, regular people in the UAE don't experience any of what I'm speaking of since they don't meet the radical people which is most likely the same case with you being there.

Somehow a certain large group of mosques + their religious cretin scholars brainwash many into the terrorist ideology which will find themselves in Syria & Iraq nowadays, previous in Chechnya + Afghanistan, then they get locked up when they come back to their homeland since they'd burn Saudi Arabia as well.

It's actually their society influenced by the religious figures which deformed the brains of certain individuals and sent them on the terror path, and even though they are one of the largest into this the ideology spreads to vulnerable/uneducated people abroad as well. That's how Zarqawi got into it ( uneducated ).

Whether this is offensive to people or not doesn't matter, it's the root of the problem.
 
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Calm or not, what you experience in daily life makes no difference to what other things that happen in the same country, regular people in the UAE don't experience any of what I'm speaking of since they don't meet the radical people which is most likely the same case with you being there.

Social problems, illnesses within a given commuinty can't remain stealth forever. If what you're saying is true, then Iraq wouldn't have been put under the scope of international organizations or its authority or its people.

The fact of the matter is that the UAE, Jordan and KSA don't have militants operating in a state-like position within the state itself, which is the opposite to what is taking place in Iraq.

Thus, the volume of violence within Iraq compared to the so-called radicals you invented in your un-defendable claim in the UAE.


Somehow a certain large group of mosques + their religious cretin scholars brainwash many into the terrorist ideology which will find themselves in Syria & Iraq nowadays, previous in Chechnya + Afghanistan, then they get locked up when they come back to their homeland since they'd burn Saudi Arabia as well.

Let just not compare Apples to Oranges. During the USSR invasion of Afghanistan, thousands upon thousands of Non-Afghans travelled all the way to fight the Russians, and after the latter's withdrawal, the vast majority of them came back.

The situation in Chechnya is also completely different, given the fact that by the time of the Foundation of the Federation of Russia, The Republic of Chechnya was a federal republic within the Federation of Russia, which means that Chechnya was in a whole different state compared to the miserable situation in Iraq.


hen they get locked up when they come back to their homeland since they'd burn Saudi Arabia as well.

Burn yourself :omghaha:

Al-Qaida proclaimed tens and tens of attacks against KSA, targeting civilian and governmental sites.

What we did to them was fighting them to our fullest, rather than submitting to their demands, or compromising with them, or taking side with one militants against another.

The difference between your Iraq and the regime of it and the rest of the sovereign, competent, law-abiding, responsible, and caring states across the globe is to be identified as the fallowing:-

1 - The rule of law in your country is an utter messy compared to the rest of the world. Your politicians are picky, on one hand they declare a war against one militant, and remain indifferent to another. Why can't they dissolve, and declare a war against the rest of the tens upon tens of militant groups as much as they did with Al-Qaida?

2 - The aggressive presence of sectarianism among the ruling class in your country is the main reason behind dragging your country into a constant circle of violence. In other word, it is a self-fulling prophecy.

3 - The court system in your country lacks the means in which it can implement fairness, and deliver justice.

4 - Your politicians can't even agree on a single legislation without arguing about it for a year. This political mayhem is what is causing the refusal of other sovereign states to cooperate with your country i.e. don't you ever think even for a second that your country's war against militants can only be solved by your PM's arrival to the US to beg them to sell sophisticated weapons, you still lack the will to carry it out.

Now, As you can see, Karbala has just declared its bankruptcy due to corruption, Iraq Kurdistan is turning into an oasis, while the rest of your country is in a miserable shape due to the idiocy of your politicians.

You can't win a war against terrorists by purchasing billions and billions of fancy guns, but there are additional means your country MUST pursue.

For now, I don't think the situation in Iraq will change.

It's actually their society influenced by the religious figures which deformed the brains of certain individuals and sent them on the terror path, and even though they are one of the largest into this the ideology spreads to vulnerable/uneducated people abroad as well. That's how Zarqawi got into it ( uneducated ).

Actually, Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi rose to power at a time where Al-Qaida was heavily influenced by his fellow countryman Abdullah Azam. By that time, OBL was the second man in command, while Azam aka the Godfather of Al-Qaida was the symbol and the icon to all radical Muslims.

I don't think Al-Qaida radicalizes uneducated people. If so, then the Dr. Major Nidal Hasan wouldn't have been easily radicalized by the American-born Yemeni Head of Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, Anwar Al-Awalaki.

Zarqawi wasn't uneducated either. His motivations were equal to Azam as both of these two happen to be Palestinians originally.

Whether this is offensive to people or not doesn't matter, it's the root of the problem.

Nothing of an offense at all! You're the one who's been bleeding. You're just an e-warrior who knows nothing about anthropology, let alone delivering an analysis on a society that is way superior to your dear society.

Calm or not, what you experience in daily life makes no difference to what other things that happen in the same country, regular people in the UAE don't experience any of what I'm speaking of since they don't meet the radical people which is most likely the same case with you being there.

Somehow a certain large group of mosques + their religious cretin scholars brainwash many into the terrorist ideology which will find themselves in Syria & Iraq nowadays, previous in Chechnya + Afghanistan, then they get locked up when they come back to their homeland since they'd burn Saudi Arabia as well.

It's actually their society influenced by the religious figures which deformed the brains of certain individuals and sent them on the terror path, and even though they are one of the largest into this the ideology spreads to vulnerable/uneducated people abroad as well. That's how Zarqawi got into it ( uneducated ).

Whether this is offensive to people or not doesn't matter, it's the root of the problem.
 
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I live in Riyadh, I've been here for 8 months. I can tell, it's a normal society and it's people are much calmer than us in the Levant area.
So you are from Jordan and raised in Amman but moved to live and work in Riyahd correct?
 
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I have read in this forum that 60% of bombers in iraq are saudian especially in shia states.
 
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