Another 3 Chinese aircraft carrier coming soon 2016-17

[帅的一匹]

UK navy would have been buried in the cold water of Forland Island if Argentina had 10 more ASM from France. the so called experience is important, but not the determined factor of win or loss in a actual combat. experience sometimes may tie up your hands. The newly born PLAAF shot down hundreds of USA fighters back in the Korean War, some of those even driven by the USAAF ACE pilotes in World war 2. PLAAF rookie had just few hours of flying experience before sent to real air combat. Some times Indians really don't know what Chinese capable of. we live in different world.

it will be over hyper to exaggerate the importance of experience. USA navy never encounter a real equivalent enemy after Soviet's collapse.

 

[Beast]

Come back when you havecreal time experience with ACC.

We dont brag but its rather the Indian bragging when they accomplished small small thing and start to think they are miles ahead. Like the recent Mars exploration. We congrat the Indian for reaching that milestone of reaching Mars then some Indian then start to think their space program is far superior than China. Then we need to ask, has Indian complete manned mission? Has they able to do module docking? Has they able to do spacewalk? Has their rocket even has far bigger payload? Has the Indian even able to do a continent GPS positional system?

Same as Indian bragging about the carrier experience. The Indian navy all the while is operating a STOVL at under strength and now switching to STOBAR ops which is totally a different experience which even previous STOVL ops experience can be ignored. Angle deck carrier is totally a new ball game. It must more difficult than operating a helo ops deck.

Indian Navy is basically at the same level with PLAN in operating an angle deck carriers.

 

[SrNair]

We dont brag but its rather the Indian bragging when they accomplished small small thing and start to think they are miles ahead. Like the recent Mars exploration. We congrat the Indian for reaching that milestone of reaching Mars then some Indian then start to think their space program is far superior than China. Then we need to ask, has Indian complete manned mission? Has they able to do module docking? Has they able to do spacewalk? Has their rocket even has far bigger payload? Has the Indian even able to do a continent GPS positional system?

Same as Indian bragging about the carrier experience. The Indian navy all the while is operating a STOVL at under strength and now switching to STOBAR ops which is totally a different experience which even previous STOVL ops experience can be ignored. Angle deck carrier is totally a new ball game. It must more difficult than operating a helo ops deck.

Indian Navy is basically at the same level with PLAN in operating an angle deck carriers.

We completed Mars mission successfully.What about China?
Manned mission is not a big priority for us .Since we dont need to become a self proclaimed Superpower like some others .We have our own IRNSS. And now we dont need a continental system.
Oh well PLAN with their 4 year old decades age second hand ACC is now equal to India that used their ACC for a full fledged war happened 4 decades ago.


Comeback when you have at least 2 decade experience in ACC

 

[AgentOrange]

It's impossible to build that many carriers in such a short time frame. I think, certainly, the PLAN has multiple carriers *planned* but it will be many years before we see anything come of it. Think about it logically - why would the PLAN pump out so many vulnerable carriers when it doesn't even have enough escorts to protect them? Remember the 055 destroyer/cruiser? The PLAN would need that constructed and placed into production before any carrier. Not to mention the next gen SSN, without which PLAN carriers are sitting ducks against modern navies.

I can understand the excitement about future PLAN acquisitions but we need to be realistic.

 

[Beast]

It's impossible to build that many carriers in such a short time frame. I think, certainly, the PLAN has multiple carriers *planned* but it will be many years before we see anything come of it. Think about it logically - why would the PLAN pump out so many vulnerable carriers when it doesn't even have enough escorts to protect them? Remember the 055 destroyer/cruiser? The PLAN would need that constructed and placed into production before any carrier. Not to mention the next gen SSN, without which PLAN carriers are sitting ducks against modern navies.

I can understand the excitement about future PLAN acquisitions but we need to be realistic.

I dont think PLAN is short on escort with even current strength. They have 18 type 054A frigates, 6 Type052C and possible 2 Type052D(1 is comfirmed). Type052C is absolutely capable of providing escort for CV with their HQ-9. In fact, PLAN now is able to form two CV group. 3 Type 052C, 3 Type 054A with 1 CV for just one group. That will still gives extra 2 Type052D to play around with and not to mention many Type054A frigates.

 

[j20blackdragon]

China has three main shipyards capable of building aircraft carriers.

1. Dalian Shipbuilding Industry Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. Jiangnan Shipyard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3. Bohai Shipyard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

USA has one.

Newport News Shipbuilding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China has the world's largest commercial shipbuilding industry.

• Largest shipbuilding nations based on gross tonnage 2013 | Ranking

China has the world's largest steel and aluminum industries.

List of countries by steel production - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of countries by aluminium production - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China has already given you a sneak preview of the Liaoning battle group.

J-15 prototype with Taihang engines has already flown.

And now you have official models of China's first four aircraft carriers.

 

[antonius123]

We completed Mars mission successfully.What about China?
Manned mission is not a big priority for us .Since we dont need to become a self proclaimed Superpower like some others .We have our own IRNSS. And now we dont need a continental system.
Oh well PLAN with their 4 year old decades age second hand ACC is now equal to India that used their ACC for a full fledged war happened 4 decades ago.


Comeback when you have at least 2 decade experience in ACC

As informed to you before, China has reach completed man mission, putting robot into moon surface, space docking, space walk, global GPS, biggest rocket etc.

Why you boast rare and small thing while ignore frequent bigger things that china has achieved?

 

[IsaacNewton]

I dont think PLAN is short on escort with even current strength. They have 18 type 054A frigates, 6 Type052C and possible 2 Type052D(1 is comfirmed). Type052C is absolutely capable of providing escort for CV with their HQ-9. In fact, PLAN now is able to form two CV group. 3 Type 052C, 3 Type 054A with 1 CV for just one group. That will still gives extra 2 Type052D to play around with and not to mention many Type054A frigates.

Main threat to carrier is submarines. While type 052c is decent against surface and air targets, the whole CBG will be sitting duck to 1 vietnam kilo sub.

 

[帅的一匹]

Main threat to carrier is submarines. While type 052c is decent against surface and air targets, the whole CBG will be sitting duck to 1 vietnam kilo sub.

Go get a life, China navy has 60plus conventiona subs, Vietnam is no rival.

 

[SrNair]

As informed to you before, China has reach completed man mission, putting robot into moon surface, space docking, space walk, global GPS, biggest rocket etc.

Why you boast rare and small thing while ignore frequent bigger things that china has achieved?

Bigger things ??
We also have all these capability but only on the basis of priority.It is not about size .It is about precision.It is not about quantity It is about quality.

Go get a life, China navy has 60plus conventiona subs, Vietnam is no rival.

Bro .You are right .They are not a rival for China.
But dont underestimate them.They already proved their caluber against US and also for a certain extent against you also.

 

[punit]

Source? Link? Really really doubtful that this could happen.

how dare you

 

[帅的一匹]

Bigger things ??
We also have all these capability but only on the basis of priority.It is not about size .It is about precision.It is not about quantity It is about quality.



Bro .You are right .They are not a rival for China.
But dont underestimate them.They already proved their caluber against US and also for a certain extent against you also.

Vietnam is no rival of China, so they better behave them self. At least not inviting furry from China.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Go get a life, China navy has 60plus conventiona subs, Vietnam is no rival.

That doesn't matter. The point is China cannot credibly form a CBG if it doesn't improve its anti submarine capabilities.
A US CBG always has a few nuclear powered sub lurking around.

Also, China does not have any oversea bases. A CBG will have limited power projection capabilities even if the carrier is nuclear powered because the air defense destroyers will run out of gas. China will need to bring an oil tanker into CBG which is another liability.

I highly doubt China can have 4 carriers 4 years from now. China doesn't even have a complete airwing for the liaoning.

 

[SrNair]

Vietnam is no rival of China, so they better behave them self. At least not inviting furry from China.

May be.But they were successful in countering US for 20 years and inflicting heavy casualities to Chinese in 1979.

 

[antonius123]

Bigger things ??
We also have all these capability but only on the basis of priority.It is not about size .It is about precision.It is not about quantity It is about quality.
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LOL. Your statement is illogical

If India already has these capability, then India certainly had sent man to space, put robot into moon surface, GPS, etc.
Vietnam can also claim likewise that they have capability to go to mars but unfortunately it is not their priority.

Dont be joking.