An Indian Muslim recounts why his visit to Pakistan was horrifying

[Areesh]

When you gotta go, you gotta go

Matlab behan ka rishta dai kar hi jao gai. Nice

 

[Viny]

Shitty story which stinks ....

1. No tourist visa gets issued for Indian visitors, you only get visa if you have relative who has sent you invite or if you are part of a religious group visiting for pilgrimage. Both are very hard to get. If a relative has invited, then for sure they will guide or will accompany you. And in distress, you would first contact them.
2. Why would you contact college dean or media house, contact Indian Embassy first they are there for help.
3. Indians are limited to areas they can visit. On top of that most of them have to report to local police station. So if one has reported, he will be given the restriction details at police station.
4. Faked 4000PKR, well dont undrestand why he didnt went to bank for exchange and why into some shitty corner. Secondly who carries INR to pakistan, people carry $$ when they travel abroad for exchange.
5. Finally I dont know if ISI also wears a jacket like FBI or they introduce themselves like, Hi I am from ISI :p

 

[El Sidd]

Shitty story which stinks ....

1. No tourist visa gets issued for Indian visitors, you only get visa if you have relative who has sent you invite or if you are part of a religious group visiting for pilgrimage. Both are very hard to get. If a relative has invited, then for sure they will guide or will accompany you. And in distress, you would first contact them.
2. Why would you contact college dean or media house, contact Indian Embassy first they are there for help.
3. Indians are limited to areas they can visit. On top of that most of them have to report to local police station. So if one has reported, he will be given the restriction details at police station.
4. Faked 4000PKR, well dont undrestand why he didnt went to bank for exchange and why into some shitty corner. Secondly who carries INR to pakistan, people carry $$ when they travel abroad for exchange.
5. Finally I dont know if ISI also wears a jacket like FBI or they introduce themselves like, Hi I am from ISI :p

Why would you point this out? Just ruined all the fun.
You sir are a 'fact fascist'.

 

[Kambojaric]

“My dear brothers, today you are leaving our country; did you ever think what will be the outcome of this? If you go away, Muslims in India will become weak. You will be divided into two sects of liberals and fundamentals. Listen to me carefully, a Hindu can differ with your religion but they can’t differ within your qaumiyat (clan), but in Pakistan you will face the difference of the clan as they’ll treat you as chattel.”

Treat you as chattel . Musharraf is chattel, Shahryar Khan is chattel, Aslam Beg is chattel. People of Indian descent have a disproportionately large presence in all sectors in Pakistan and have risen to the very highest positions in the country including judges in the Supreme Court, generals in the army and of course the office of Prime Minister, the reason being that they were welcomed by the natives rather than shunned as outsiders or as Azad puts it treated as chattel. Anyway this whole article is hilarious and looks like this trait runs in the family

 

[Areesh]

Shitty story which stinks ....

1. No tourist visa gets issued for Indian visitors, you only get visa if you have relative who has sent you invite or if you are part of a religious group visiting for pilgrimage. Both are very hard to get. If a relative has invited, then for sure they will guide or will accompany you. And in distress, you would first contact them.
2. Why would you contact college dean or media house, contact Indian Embassy first they are there for help.
3. Indians are limited to areas they can visit. On top of that most of them have to report to local police station. So if one has reported, he will be given the restriction details at police station.
4. Faked 4000PKR, well dont undrestand why he didnt went to bank for exchange and why into some shitty corner. Secondly who carries INR to pakistan, people carry $$ when they travel abroad for exchange.
5. Finally I dont know if ISI also wears a jacket like FBI or they introduce themselves like, Hi I am from ISI :p

And most importantly why he was staying at Aitcheson? It is an educational institution not a hotel or hostel where anyone stay.

 

[Trango Towers]

how does anyone know who wrote this?
how do you prove he is muslim?
how do you know this is correct and not made up.

no evidence at all....just stories

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I took the risk to visit that country and paid a price.

I not only understand but also relate to the tormenting experience of Asif Nizami and Nazim Nizami — the two representatives from the shrine of Hazrat Nizamuddin Aulia — who had gone to Pakistan on a tour to the Sufi shrines in that country to build bridges between the peoples and nations.

I, with my family, had undergone similarly harrowing circumstances in 2012. It was sheer good luck that we had come back safe and sound.

Nightmare

My honeymoon with Lahore — my dream city, a place of fun and frolic and home to world’s best institutions like Aitchison College and Punjab University, eateries like Salt’n Pepper Village, Food Street and Zaiqa and water parks like Sozo Water Park, Joy Land Park and Starlet shoes — ended in a nightmare.

During my second — and perhaps last visit there — from June 4 to June 13, I found myself, with wife and three children, at the Sarwar Road Police Station, Lahore Cantonment. My experience vindicated that Pakistanis loathe Indian Muslims, terming them variously as enslaved and spies.

My children who were enthusiastic about visiting Lahore — a city about which famed Urdu writer Kashmiri Lal Zakir had said, “Jinne Lahore nai vekhya/wo te jamiya hi naiee (He, who hasn’t seen Lahore/ He isn’t even born)” — are now absolutely Pakistan phobic.

My children were enthusiastic about visiting Lahore.
At about 5pm on June 9, day five of our stay in Lahore, the children wanted a joyride in Joy Land Park. While we were about to enter the park, we were threatened by ISI sleuths in civil dress who had been following us from Wagha.

Without our knowledge, they diverted our threewheeler towards the Sarwar Road Police Station in the Lahore Cantonment. In the police station, we were told that we had entered a "prohibited" area. My wife said we were tourists and there were no signposts in any case.

But our interrogators had sinister designs and began preparing papers to throw us behind the bars. Even if a tourist unknowingly goes to the amusement park, he can land into the hands of ISI rangers. During the grilling, they kept repeating that Pakistani tourists get even worst treatment at the hands of Indian agencies. My consistent denial demeaned me in their eyes.

We were staying at the prestigious 125-year-old Aitchison College from where our passports, visas, etc, were hauled in by the police. I was wondering what threat perception we posed, an enthusiastic bunch of tourists consisting of three school-going children, myself and wife.

The ISI spies had plotted impeccably to snare us — only to be later victimised as Sarabjits and Surjeets for whom neither Pakistan nor India is frankly much concerned. Our arrest documents were written and passports and other papers confiscated. Though it was a very scary and petrifying situation, we were not afraid as we had done nothing wrong.

Apology

Fortunately, college bursar Col Mehboob, a retired army man, spoke to the police assuring them of our bona fides. Even that was not enough and I had to call the editor of The Nation. It still took us five hours to get out of the dreadful and scandalous clutches of ISI officers after a written apology.

Pakistan, unfortunately, is run by ISI agents and the military. They are suspicious of all Indians. The "soft corner" for Pakistan, after this treatment, has absolutely vanished, particularly against the country’s intelligence apparatus.

Bigwigs there are double-faced and can do a U-turn at the drop of a hat, a reason why that country is on the verge of disaster. They even interviewed me at the office of Nawa-e-Waqt, an Urdu daily, to get something against India but I never uttered a word against my “watan” (country).

Aggravated, they moved the ISI sleuths after me more horridly. At the police station, I could not help but wonder: the El Dorado that Quaide-Azam Mohammed Ali Jinnah created as a dreamland of Muslims after thousands of sacrifices, is not even a semblance of the dream he had spun.

Pakistan’s landscape is dominated by terrorism, corruption, inflation, honour killings and sectarianism — to name just a few burning problems.

Relief

On my first day on June 4, I was faked of about 4,000 Pakistani rupees in lieu of Indian money at McLeod Road, and no amount of request or police threat worked. I thought it prudent to come out safe and sound and in one piece from his dingy underground kiosk.

On our return at the airport, I was grilled for three hours by five ISI officers, our bags were turned upside down as were cameras, children’s mobiles and wallets while external hard discs were scanned. Even medicines and shaving boxes were not spared.

I heaved a sigh of relief after crossing Attari, glad to get out of the clutches of ISI megalomaniacs.

Before leaving Pakistan, I was reminded of what my grandfather, Maulana Abul Kalam Azad, told the departing co-religionists for the "promised land" in 1947:


“My dear brothers, today you are leaving our country; did you ever think what will be the outcome of this? If you go away, Muslims in India will become weak. You will be divided into two sects of liberals and fundamentals. Listen to me carefully, a Hindu can differ with your religion but they can’t differ within your qaumiyat (clan), but in Pakistan you will face the difference of the clan as they’ll treat you as chattel.”


Pakistan is a hell for Indian Muslims! I took the risk to visit that country despite these prophetic words and paid a price.

(Courtesy of Mail Today.)
http://www.dailyo.in/politics/pakistan-indian-muslims-isi-nizammudin-saints/story/1/16326.html

indian Muslim logic reeks it's head again!!!!.........Pakistan is horrifying but Gujarat 2002 is heaven.........lol........

 

[Leviza]

All fake
I can write similar things and visits to India

Well if you are so proud to be Indian and it's lovely in that country , try eating beef in public lol

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

An indian is an indian is an indian... natural habbitat for indians is india. Apart from india every other place on this Fair Earth is a hellhole for indians... look what is happening to them in the US alone.

Regardless of thier beliefs... there is fundamental Civilisational difference between People of the Indus and indians of the Gangeez.

Throwing co-relgion is just to spice up the tale of inborn hate. It is irrational, reckless hate. Beyond understanding...best left alone.

Fundamental question that arises here is why would an indian would like to visit Pak Lands in the first place?

I say build the Wall and let india pay for it!!!!!

 

[Pseudonym]

Busted.
Aitchison College doesnt provide anyone with hotel or resturant facility.
The nearest hotel (Avari/PC) is located as far as 2-3 Kms away from Aitchison while Joy Land Amusement Park, Lahore is located within one km radius of Aitchison college.

Learn geography before writing crap.

That is what I've been wondering as well. Aitchison College is a prestigious educational institute and I don't believe any tourist can be accommodated there.

Tourists have to report to the local police station first after landing. This point isn't mentioned in his story. Why?

Imagine the conversation with the 'ISI' guys: "Asalam-u-Alaikum janaab, I'm an ISI agent. You've to come with me to the police station or i'll beat you and drag your @ss to the police station".
If it was really an ISI agent, he would never introduce himself as an ISI agent or would never let him know that he belongs to ISI and take him to a police station.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Says a bharati on a Pakistani forum

Itni hi teri insult ho rahi hai to yahan kia kar raha hai. Behan ka rishta denai aaya hai kia?

 

[Reichsmarschall]

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Shitty story which stinks ....

1. No tourist visa gets issued for Indian visitors, you only get visa if you have relative who has sent you invite or if you are part of a religious group visiting for pilgrimage. Both are very hard to get. If a relative has invited, then for sure they will guide or will accompany you. And in distress, you would first contact them.
2. Why would you contact college dean or media house, contact Indian Embassy first they are there for help.
3. Indians are limited to areas they can visit. On top of that most of them have to report to local police station. So if one has reported, he will be given the restriction details at police station.
4. Faked 4000PKR, well dont undrestand why he didnt went to bank for exchange and why into some shitty corner. Secondly who carries INR to pakistan, people carry $$ when they travel abroad for exchange.
5. Finally I dont know if ISI also wears a jacket like FBI or they introduce themselves like, Hi I am from ISI :p

ISI has more important stuff to do than pursuing families.

There are even Indian PDF members who visited Pak and praise our hospitality.

The story however seems like a poor attempt at gaining attention.

An indian is an indian is an indian... natural habbitat for indians is india. Apart from india every other place on this Fair Earth is a hellhole for indians... look what is happening to them in the US alone.

Regardless of thier beliefs... there is fundamental Civilisational difference between People of the Indus and indians of the Gangeez.

Throwing co-relgion is just to spice up the tale of inborn hate. It is irrational, reckless hate. Beyond understanding...best left alone.

Fundamental question that arises here is why would an indian would like to visit Pak Lands in the first place?

I say build the Wall and let india pay for it!!!!!

Frankly all tourists even Indian "Hindus" and Sikhs (who visit Pak every year) are treated like guests, people go out of the way to help them, people don't take money and a lot of times,random Pakistanis people in restaurants pay for the food for their "guests".

 

[MagicMarker]

Shitty story which stinks ....

1. No tourist visa gets issued for Indian visitors, you only get visa if you have relative who has sent you invite or if you are part of a religious group visiting for pilgrimage. Both are very hard to get. If a relative has invited, then for sure they will guide or will accompany you. And in distress, you would first contact them.

Errr .. He is a JOURNALIST

They have Journalist visa and they only need a letter and name of the organizers of a event or media house. LOL at your claim of "religious group"

2. Why would you contact college dean or media house, contact Indian Embassy first they are there for help.

Errrr. ...... BECAUSE HE IS A JOURNALIST your dumb @ss

3. Indians are limited to areas they can visit. On top of that most of them have to report to local police station. So if one has reported, he will be given the restriction details at police station.

Journalist visa have wider scope. They only have to report to the police station within the first 150 days.

4. Faked 4000PKR, well dont undrestand why he didnt went to bank for exchange and why into some shitty corner. Secondly who carries INR to pakistan, people carry $$ when they travel abroad for exchange.

It is not a large sum by any standard. Its only Rs. 2,500 Indian Rupee. Its probably the money he already had in his purse.

He probably went to a trout for better exchange rates. Its quite common in south Asia.

5. Finally I dont know if ISI also wears a jacket like FBI or they introduce themselves like, Hi I am from ISI :p

How is this relevant ?

If you see someone following you continuously in pakistan, you can bet its an ISI agent

Only a retard would need that person to come up and flash his ISI identity card.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Here is a relatively unknown South Indian actress and here visit to Pak

http://m.timesofindia.com/entertain...kar-on-Pakistan-trip/articleshow/47338957.cms



Indians account who visited Pak

https://www.google.com.pk/amp/s/www.dawn.com/news/amp/1208023


More

https://www.google.com.pk/amp/s/www.dawn.com/news/amp/1148311


https://www.google.com.pk/amp/blogs...00/returned-love-experience-visiting-pakistan

https://www.google.com.pk/amp/blogs...00/returned-love-experience-visiting-pakistan


http://m.indiatimes.com/culture/who...very-indian-should-visit-pakistan-228741.html

https://www.google.com.pk/amp/s/usi...pener-an-indian-american-visits-pakistan/amp/