Watch this then make that statement. It's from an independent travel vlogger who doesn't really give a crap about the Uighurs. In fact, his other vlogs show the beauty of China and in a positive light except when he visits Urumqi and Kashgar and the famous Id Kha mosque.
I don't understand why would telling China to stop violating human rights mean the end of relationship. Pakistani leaders especially Imran Khan came to power cursing and badmouthing America and using all kinds of obscenities against Trump and American nation (i remember vividly how he called Americans dumb for electing Trump and the crowd cheered) yet Pakistan is receiving help for economic bailout and there's no doubt about US-Pak relationship which despite its sour moments is always on track when needed.
Or Pakistan and Indias relationship, we've been at war, it has been terrible yet both countries trade and at times the relationship becomes good when there's not a madman like Modi in power.
This is nonsense and justification of soulless people. Turkey has publicly condemned China for their holocaust on Muslims yet Turkey is taking loans from China.
I don't know if you're a Muslim since this forum is overrun with Indians and communists so can't really tell but to a Muslim, there are three ranks of emaan. The highest is physically stopping oppression, then lower is condemning it with your mouth and the last is thinking it is wrong in your heart.
But of course, Pakistan is a coward country who can't dare attack India despite their repeated attempts so attacking China and liberating Uighur Muslims from these fascist Hitler grandsons communists is impossible to even dream about but don't be scared shitless.
Pakistan can easily condemn China and give a statement and be done with it.
These communists need Pakistan more than we need these communists. If Pakistan had a spine and feared Allah more than they fear China then we could've forced China to do a lot more cause of Pakistans geography.
But what I've seen - and God bless the courageous souls - is many Pakistanis don't even have the last rank of emaan and actually defend the holocaust by parroting Chinese lies. These Uighurs are terrorists, that's why China is doing it. Not long ago, China denied it, when exposed, it became terrorist reeeducation camps, wah.
What i find the height of Munafiqat from Muslims themselves is when Israel bombs Palestinians and call them terrorists, oh it's wrong and crimes against humanity or when India do it to Kashmiris, oh no poor Kashmiris. But when the most oppressive regime known to mankind today who's famous for censorship and absolute control of information and spying and communists of all people do what they're good at, it's all just Western propaganda?.
I feel like if Pakistan was getting money from Israel and India the way it's getting from China then it would've been okay to bomb Kashmir and Palestine too. Can't sabotage our relationship can we? And it would become western propaganda.
I've seen the videos and commented on them. There are issues there i.e. the tough line has spoilt the mood in the region.
Telling China to stop it's 'human rights violations' will damage the relationship beyond repair. If you are an ally you don't rebuke your friend in front of the world's media and expect everything to be rosy afterwards. Think of it on a micro level, you find out your friend is doing something you deem unethical, are you suddenly going to bring it up in front of mutual friends and his family, or will you speak to him/her privately? Obviously you will speak to them in a private manner, the phrase 'not putting out your dirty laundry for all to see' comes to mind.
With regards to the US/Pak relationship, it's not on track, in actual fact it's never been lower, this has been highlighted by both Pakistani and Western writers. The cancelling of Pakistani cadets participating on military programs, the cut to all military aid and training programs, the accusations of duplicity at the highest level and I could go on. The bailout from the IMF has stringent requirements that are to be met, and the US couldn't see a worse case scenario happen with a nuclear weapons state going through economic meltdown.
As to the relationship with India, I'm sorry but you wrote; "good at times", since when? Ok you mentioned when Modi has not been in charge, may I add that all 3 of the wars fought were with a Congress government in charge. You did mention war, but then the major skirmishes of The Rann of Kutch and The Siachen glacier were also fought with an aggressive Congress administration in charge. What about the slaughter and rape of Kashmiris which began in 1990 and then onwards? That was Congress as well, the knocking down of the Babri Mosque in 92, no BJP in power then either. There has never been a time when relations were 'good', they have been quiet at best.
Turkey can make statements like that as they do not face the level of threat Pakistan does.
China's relationship with Pakistan is mutually beneficial, I don't believe there is a 'they need us more than we need them' element in this relationship. Bringing faith into this doesn't change ground realities such as Pakistan without China's help would face very bleak times. I can bring up a whole range of issues to support my assertion but let's just bring up the issue of water sharing. Did you now that it was China's threats when Modi came out with his infamous 'blood for water' speech, and members of his government spoke about cancelling the treaty and strangling Pakistan's supply. China responded through back channels, something which the Indian press reported on, that they will do the same and even worse not just with the Brahmaputra river but also major tributaries that feed the Ganges and capping the river Sutlej. This sent shockwaves through their administration and threats died down, now we have a simple "we will take our full share". What would have Pakistan done had the relationship with China not existed? Nothing and it's 215 million people would face the most severe of reprisals.
As for asking if I was Muslim, why wouldn't you think I was? The forum is not overrun with Indians and communists, we have a diverse range of people here. Yes I am aware of the hadith but I don't defend what China does wholeheartedly, there were alternatives, but then again I'm also not willing to put the Chinese relationship at risk, and I also admire a country which had its face in the dirt in the early 19th century, faced a genocidal war at the hands of the Japanese, went though a revolution and now has taken it's place on the world stage as the only other superpower bar the USA.
As for the stuff about the Uhguir people I read this not so long ago;
There are Uighurs in positions of authority in Xinjiang.
Many of the government officials and police officers who tailed and stopped us were Uighurs.
If they feel in any way conflicted they cannot say it of course.
But while the system of profiling and control has been likened by some to Apartheid,
clearly that is not entirely accurate.
Many Uighurs do have a stake in the system.
In reality a better parallel can be found in China's own totalitarian past.
As in the Cultural Revolution, a society is being told that it needs to be taken apart in order to be saved.
Shohrat Zakir, a Uighur and, in theory, the second most powerful politician in the region, suggests the battle has almost been won.
“In the past 21 months, no violent terrorist attacks have occurred and the number of criminal cases, including those endangering public security, has dropped significantly,” he is reported to have told state media.
“Xinjiang is not only beautiful but also safe and stable.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/China_hidden_camps
I've noticed this as well, with the dozens of Uighur videos I have seen, why are so many of the security forces Uighur, why were the secret police Uighur and even the people in charge of the education schools/camps whatever people call them Uighur as well? They already are a small population (11 million or so) how can you raise the numbers required to make them such a visible presence in enforcing all this?
The BBC article clearly uses the word
many, that's not a few, or a minority but many who have bought into the system. Are they all munaqfiqs as well? What happens if people came across them and they told folks to mind your own business?
This whole thing is weird
because you certainly do not see the Palestinians, Rohingya and Kashmiris to name a few groups lining up to join the Israeli, Indian and Burmese armies/security forces/agencies.
On the point about the Pakistanis, the PM, government and so forth being cowardly there are clear reasons why Pakistanis won't and probably never will speak. Many will point about they are being pragmatic and putting their national interest first, what's wrong with that they will say? Some will have the opposing few.
But anyway I'd thought I would reply back.
