ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[fisher1]

I wouldn't be surprised that we have screwed up people on this forum from foreign funded entities who actually participate with the sole purpose to instigate misunderstandings. Yes, they get paid to be full or part-time trolls.



More importantly, just have a good look at which specific sources and nations are actually spreading such anti-China news. It is not a coincidence at all. It is planned and well thought out.

We have to remember one thing. They played this same game back in the day with so-called godless Russian commies. Remember how the Americans and her allies pitched the idea of us believing in one God and the Russian commies being godless enemies? Connect the dots folks. They are playing the same game all over again. Only this time the godless enemy is supposed to be China.

So Russians are good people and the Soviets didn't commit any wrongs?

 

[beijingwalker]

It's not about if a Muslims drinks or not...
But the Cultural cleansing that is operating...
We both know... what China did in the past for other minorities after annexation of their land... and How they put ahead a certain program to assimilate the population... it's a secret to no one...

What is cultural cleansing? Many Uighurs can't speak Mandarin Chinese and all Uighurs have their own style names, while In other central Aisan regions you can see they all speak fluent Russia, using Russian for writing and have Russia style names, none of them is true in China, China helps minorities to keep everything original, the same difference can be found between Mongols in Inner Mongolia and Republic of Mongolia.
As for changes, China herself changes very fast, so is her culture and mentality, today's China can be very different from China 20 years ago, everything changes, don't say nothing even changed in Turkey.

 

[maximuswarrior]

So Russians are good people and the Soviets didn't commit any wrongs?

Should we pose the same question for the American warmongers or would that be a sin?

Listen up, we are not going to become party in Western fetish to contain China. We are not stupid. We know who is making these noises and for what purpose.

China might be dealing too harshly with the Uyghur issue, but it is their internal matter. Pakistan can and should convey its advise as a friend. However, China is totally justified to take care of Western sponsored renegade groups. Western reporting on China cannot be taken as word of God. Western wish to contain Chinese rise is no secret to anyone. The West and particularly the Americans love to instigate chaos among ethnic and religious lines. They do it in Pakistan and they have done it elsewhere. This case is no different.

 

[beijingwalker]

We know what CN will do if some Chinese around the gloibe get mistreated... They make it known... and will use whatever in her power to find a solution...
Why, Muslims can't? are we weak? We got Money... Manpower... Nukes... Oil etc... What is left? Unity?Balls?

I hope what you said is true , but it's not, there were many anti China riots in South eastern Asaian countries and thousands of ethnic Chinese were raped and slaughtered like animials, but China didn't do anything cause China thinks they were their internal affairs .

And it's not just the Uighurs... it's everywhere... In any situation... Muslims will find excuses to run from their responsibilities... We are seeing it when it comes to Palestine, Kashmir, Syria, Rohyngas etc...

We never heard even one perso died from this so called "genocide", isn't that strange for a massive persecution of million as some media claim? The only genocide which no one died in human history.
We can assure you that there indeed are tens of millions Muslims living their lives as a daily struggle, deaths is a daily fact, no food, no shelter, no secrutiy, no education, no future..., but they are not in China, Uighur are provided argubly the best life among Muslim world, so if you really care about Muslims, not pan turkism, you should know who you should really help.

The other logic that many use also... is... When we get stronger... economically and military we will speak.... But it's the same as that guy who say that he doesn't have much to help his brother with few dollars but when he will get rich he will... Who on earth believe such guy to be genuine or truthful?

So how many dollars you helped your friends?

 

[beijingwalker]

Why wouldn't it be? You lock up the whole Muslims population in concentration camps, the whole city presents an image of some war torn abandoned city. How would it be an expensive place.

Wow, a new claim that China locked up the whole Muslim population, so in Ningxia Hui province and Xinjiang Uighur province you see no people walking on the street?

Why wouldn't it be? You lock up the whole Muslims population in concentration camps, the whole city presents an image of some war torn abandoned city. How would it be an expensive place.

Do you have a piciture or a video to back up this wild claim?

 

[Numerous]

$12,000 dollars a month whilst the average wage in China is probably like $10,000 a year or lower. What obvious lies & propaganda.

The average doctor in the UK doesn't even earn £10k a month and this guy wants us to believe that many uighurs make $12,000 a month.

 

[beijingwalker]

$12,000 dollars a month whilst the average wage in China is probably like $10,000 a year or lower. What obvious lies & propaganda.

Do you know the different between a wage earner and a small business owner? For a small busniess owner if you can't make that money you should quit our business and find a job.

 

[Numerous]

Do you know the different between a wage earner and a small business owner? For a small busniess owner if you can't make that money you should quit our business and find a job.

I really doubt most small business owners earn $12,000 profit a month, either in the west or in china.

 

[beijingwalker]

I really doubt most small business owners earn $12,000 profit a month, either in the west or in china.

No one says all, some make more, some make less, of course.

 

[American Pakistani]

I have one question just out of curiosity, where do you find all these articles about Chinese muslim's situation, are these articles pushed to readers based on your location, because nothing ever comes in my searches unless I specifically google it

I used to get such articles too along with massive indian propaganda articles, I took my time and slowly blocked all those garbage, I still recieve some but it is far lower than what I was getting before.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Watch this then make that statement. It's from an independent travel vlogger who doesn't really give a crap about the Uighurs. In fact, his other vlogs show the beauty of China and in a positive light except when he visits Urumqi and Kashgar and the famous Id Kha mosque.

I don't understand why would telling China to stop violating human rights mean the end of relationship. Pakistani leaders especially Imran Khan came to power cursing and badmouthing America and using all kinds of obscenities against Trump and American nation (i remember vividly how he called Americans dumb for electing Trump and the crowd cheered) yet Pakistan is receiving help for economic bailout and there's no doubt about US-Pak relationship which despite its sour moments is always on track when needed.

Or Pakistan and Indias relationship, we've been at war, it has been terrible yet both countries trade and at times the relationship becomes good when there's not a madman like Modi in power.

This is nonsense and justification of soulless people. Turkey has publicly condemned China for their holocaust on Muslims yet Turkey is taking loans from China.

I don't know if you're a Muslim since this forum is overrun with Indians and communists so can't really tell but to a Muslim, there are three ranks of emaan. The highest is physically stopping oppression, then lower is condemning it with your mouth and the last is thinking it is wrong in your heart.

But of course, Pakistan is a coward country who can't dare attack India despite their repeated attempts so attacking China and liberating Uighur Muslims from these fascist Hitler grandsons communists is impossible to even dream about but don't be scared shitless.

Pakistan can easily condemn China and give a statement and be done with it.

These communists need Pakistan more than we need these communists. If Pakistan had a spine and feared Allah more than they fear China then we could've forced China to do a lot more cause of Pakistans geography.

But what I've seen - and God bless the courageous souls - is many Pakistanis don't even have the last rank of emaan and actually defend the holocaust by parroting Chinese lies. These Uighurs are terrorists, that's why China is doing it. Not long ago, China denied it, when exposed, it became terrorist reeeducation camps, wah.

What i find the height of Munafiqat from Muslims themselves is when Israel bombs Palestinians and call them terrorists, oh it's wrong and crimes against humanity or when India do it to Kashmiris, oh no poor Kashmiris. But when the most oppressive regime known to mankind today who's famous for censorship and absolute control of information and spying and communists of all people do what they're good at, it's all just Western propaganda?.

I feel like if Pakistan was getting money from Israel and India the way it's getting from China then it would've been okay to bomb Kashmir and Palestine too. Can't sabotage our relationship can we? And it would become western propaganda.



Lol joke of the century. Communism and Islam are opposite concepts. This is why China is cracking down hard on religion especially Muslims because Islam is the only religion which has made Jihad - fighting against oppression - mandatory on its followers and it sees it as a threat to the horrible genocides it has and wants to commit against people. This is why China is forcing them to renounce Islam.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/3321/can-one-be-a-muslim-and-a-communist-at-the-same-time

You're quoting a personal opinion from an individual, which is just as informative as yours is(u might as well quote Quoran sources as well- my granny can write them too).

Do you even know what communism is all about?

I repeat: a Muslim can be communistic or democratic at the same time


And regarding the US having Pakistan's back.

I guess you like the weight the US sees the former's sovereignty has as a nation, when they killed Osama-bin laden?


Its like your guest shitting on your bed at his pleasure, as n when as he likes

Are u CIA's asset in Pakistan? Oh nvm, u won't admit it anyway

 

[beijingwalker]

I really doubt most small business owners earn $12,000 profit a month, either in the west or in china.

No locals will buy those handicrafts , they can just rip off rich and stupid tourists and that's what this video is all about. We Chinese have a weird idea that anything hand made has a human face, not a machine, committing their time and talent to make this happen for you, so it has some extraordinary value to it, so we pay absurdly high price for it, we often buy several so we can give some as gifts to friends. And Chinese tourists are world renowned big spenders.

One third of Xinjiang's GDP is from tourism, and Xinjing's GDP is the biggest in central Asian, bigger than kazakhstan, go figure how many job opportunities are supported by tourism alone in Xinjiang.

 

[UKBengali]

India?

No China.

 

[xyxmt]

More importantly, just have a good look at which specific sources and nations are actually spreading such anti-China news. It is not a coincidence at all. It is planned and well thought out.

We have to remember one thing. They played this same game back in the day with so-called godless Russian commies. Remember how the Americans and her allies pitched the idea of us believing in one God and the Russian commies being godless enemies? Connect the dots folks. They are playing the same game all over again. Only this time the godless enemy is supposed to be China.

that is what I am pointing at, American trade war with China and timing coincides with all of sudden Chinese Muslims are being targeted.

I mainly see them through facebook because I follow a lot of news websites + islamic speakers/scholars.

This page is pretty good - https://www.facebook.com/doamuslims2/
Talks about a whole range of issues from kashmir to syria to uighurs in china etc...

Thanks God I was never part of that propaganda site

 

[masterchief_mirza]

So Russians are good people and the Soviets didn't commit any wrongs?

They have he right to deal with their own problems, just like any other nation. The point here is that USA-led military-industrial-MEDIA complex has no right to preach to any nation as it selectively intervenes based on its interests alone. Because of the influence of media throughout its post-WW2 project, it projects its enemies in a way that justifies any future intervention. It has interests like all other nations, fine, but USA propaganda should be assessed cautiously - what is the intended outcome? Who benefits? Follow the audit trail. It always ends with financial gain, xtian fundamentalism or blind protection of its middle eastern outposts.

For the record, Russian annexation of Crimea was supposed to spark abuses against Crimeans, genocide and world war 3 - none of that happened! Russia handled its local business and will rapidly be developing Crimea to the benefit of the Crimeans and Russians alike. Likewise the outcome in Chechnya was ultimately peaceful and Chechnyans gained wealth and autonomy. I'm not defending Stalin here - but not everything Russia or USSR did was evil and/or unjustifiable. From what I have read, China intends to uplift Xinjiang economically and crush terrorism/rebellion and clearly the majority of the Uighur folks want this outcome. An ISIS type proliferation is under way in central Asia and China is resisting it. ISIS is not some glorious indigenous rebellion but rather it is a well funded puppet organization used to disrupt various nations around the globe with only a select few benefitting from the ensuing chaos. USA is the master of playing these games and retraining plausible deniability of any involvement if it goes wrong. Had the American funded terrorists won in Syria, they would have been trumpeted as "moderate", "progressive" etc etc enough to make me sick. Be aware of what USA's game plan is.