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An Independent East Turkestan will be bad for Pakistan

  • Yes

    Votes: 64 53.8%
  • No

    Votes: 55 46.2%

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For Muslims, it is worth more than any state.

Generally speaking, not just about China.

We believe all sovereignty belongs to Allah swt alone. Life and After-life are governed by his rules.

Kingdoms, Empires, States all come and go. Allah swt is forever.
We can't change what you believe just like you can't change ours, so trying to convince others based on your own belief and faith is pointless, but we can agree to disagree, can't we?
 
If this is truth, then Uyghurs deserve to be an independent nation.
Not even western powers dare to challenge China's territorial integrity, if our territorial integrity is being challenged ,we 'll crush them all with our sheer might, friends or foes.
 
I have never seen concentration camps being praised like this. They are used as free labor and brainwashed to be loyal to dictator Xi and and CPC.
 
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For Muslims, it is worth more than any state.

Generally speaking, not just about China.

We believe all sovereignty belongs to Allah swt alone. Life and After-life are governed by his rules.

Kingdoms, Empires, States all come and go. Allah swt is forever.

China has longer history, so China is more certified to tell what is forever.

why China united is that China is a secular society, Europe was not united, Islamic world will not.
 
Mosques are not being shut down in China, and Muslims are free to pray at home and in the mosques. Those coming out of these programs can continue to pray and that's what matters.

This intensive and short social engineering program is fine by me. To do this organically would take years. As long as Muslims are not forced to do haram activities in this program I have no issues. Those who have strong faith will come out with it intact and those with weak faith will get brainwashed by watching TV let alone such a program.

Islam is peace. And if people coming out of the program are peaceful, integrated in society/country and law abiding then it's all good. As Muslims we should obey the laws of the country we reside in.

Europe has done this via their schooling system and it takes a generation or so. China doesn't want to wait that long and that's fine too.
 
Not even western powers dare to challenge China's territorial integrity, if our territorial integrity is being challenged ,we 'll crush them all with our sheer might, friends or foes.

They are challenging your territorial integrity actively, funding and supporting Tibet and Hong Kong puppets against you. So your statement is not factual.

Reality is that Communist China is just one state, many states have fallen before, and many will fall in the future. No one is immune to this.

China has longer history, so China is more certified to tell what is forever.

why China united is that China is a secular society, Europe was not united, Islamic world will not.

Egypt, Greece, Rome, Indus/Pakistan have similar ancient histories.

There is nothing special about China, don’t be arrogant.

If you disrespect your citizens, they will revolt. Governments have a social contract with citizens to respect their lives, property, and lifestyle. Once that contract is broken, citizens will resent their government as it does not fulfill their obligations.

Saying that, I hope Uyghurs can practice their faith and Turkic culture freely in China. Authorities should not cave into extremists in China who want to demonize Uyghurs.
 
They are challenging your territorial integrity actively, funding and supporting Tibet and Hong Kong puppets against you. So your statement is not factual.
All countries have their own schemes that's natural, but did the west ever dare to claim Tibet or Hongkong are independent countries like you did for Xinjiang? No one dares to do that cause everyone knows that's in possible. China is becoming the world most powerful country, China might not gain more land, but definitely will not lose any.Whoever wants to try will lose their own land to China.

If you disrespect your citizens, they will revolt. .

We are Chinese citizens, not you, almost all Chinese people support the Chinese government, rebellions and civil wars are the theme of your part of the world, not our part.

Saying that, I hope Uyghurs can practice their faith and Turkic culture freely in China. Authorities should not cave into extremists in China who want to demonize Uyghurs.
You hope nothing for Chinese citizens, all Chinese citizens have to follow Chinese laws, it's not gonna change, China is one of the only few countries that always has the guts and spine to stick to what she believes and never caves in under western pressures.
 
All countries have their own schemes that's natural, but did the west ever dare to claim Tibet or Hongkong are independent countries like you did for Xinjiang? No one dares to do that cause everyone knows that's in possible. China is becoming the world most powerful country, China might not gain more land, but definitely will not lose any.Whoever wants to try will lose their own land to China.



We are Chinese citizens, not you, almost all Chinese people support the Chinese government, rebellions and civil wars are the theme of your part of the world, not our part.


You hope nothing for Chinese citizens, all Chinese citizens have to follow Chinese laws, it's not gonna change, China is one of the only few countries that always has the guts and spine to stick to what she believes and never caves in under western pressures.

I see now mostly these are your aspirations.

Xi Jinping is an intelligent leader, and not a fool like self-defeating posters which we have here who are fighting generational war against Islam and Uyghurs.

Chinese posters need to be less preachy and deal with the facts, this is will give a positive impression of China and Chinese to Pakistanis and other Muslims.
 
I see now mostly these are your aspirations.

Xi Jinping is an intelligent leader, and not a fool like self-defeating posters which we have here who are fighting generational war against Islam and Uyghurs.

Chinese posters need to be less preachy and deal with the facts, this is will give a positive impression of China and Chinese to Pakistanis and other Muslims.
No one is fighting war against Islam and Uighurs, it's all in your head.

Every single Muslim country is China's friend, now it seems Turkey is also trying hard to be one, so we can count Turkey in for now.
 

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