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[war&peace]

So China suddenly become an enemy; not ally anymore?

Naah, some idiots on PDF do not represent Pakistan or China.

 

[Brainsucker]

No wisdom or tact, what can I say.

Do as you like.

If I really wanted independence for Uyghurs, my tone would be very different.

I want the respect of the religious rights of all Muslims in China and the whole world. Muslims are being denied that everywhere.

All these issues can be resolved peacefully, but I don’t think Chinese members here are thinking in this way and instead trying to justify actions against Islam (which may or may not exist.)

You can't EXPECT a recently hardcore communist to be a religious one; specially when they're challenged and feel that communism can protect them. The only way for you, if you think that they're a friend is, to show them the good of your religion, your culture, and your friendship, so they can open up little by little.

You have to give compromise to them, but at the same time introduce the good of your value, building more bridge, and more religious based cooperation with them; so they can softened more and can accept your religion, culture, and value. Without that, good luck with the allies "All weather Friend" jargon.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Naah, some idiots on PDF do not represent Pakistan or China.

Exactly, I never stated that.

 

[war&peace]

As a Pakistani forum, we have many different viewpoints. Many honestly just want to know details about the situation to provide answers to friends/family and to put their mind at ease.

What I don’t understand is why chinese members think they can come here and insult our religion, culture, and identity without repercussions?

For a country with a fast growing economy, once in a lifetime opportunity of making alliances, and a responsible government, it is sad to see such uncivilized and frankly barbaric views among members here about Muslims, Turks, Arabs, Islam, and Pakistanis.

It is shameful.

There are many sources of the news. Both sides need to show maturity & respect. If one side will call the other as violator of the human rights, the other responds with counter arguments and disrespect. But the idiots are basing their opinions on western media. How ironic..

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You can't EXPECT a recently hardcore communist to be a religious one; specially when they're challenged and feel that communism can protect them. The only way for you, if you think that they're a friend is, to show them the good of your religion, your culture, and your friendship, so they can open up little by little.

You have to give compromise to them, but at the same time introduce the good of your value, building more bridge, and more religious based cooperation with them; so they can softened more and can accept your religion, culture, and value. Without that, good luck with the allies "All weather Friend" jargon.

We stood behind you in your toughest times and helped you reach detente with the US, while you were facing attacks by USSR.

We helped you establish ties and build a lifeline from your country to the Arabian Sea, giving you secure access to the ME. Malacca straits are dangerous due to US naval pressure.

We cooperated for decades together in containing India and supporting you in Tibet.

Even today, we are defending you against the whole Muslim world and Western propaganda on charges of abusing and detaining Uyghurs.

We are allies, this is not in doubt.

Hope you would see it properly.

 

[war&peace]

You can't EXPECT a recently hardcore communist to be a religious one; specially when they're challenged and feel that communism can protect them. The only way for you, if you think that they're a friend is, to show them the good of your religion, your culture, and your friendship, so they can open up little by little.

You have to give compromise to them, but at the same time introduce the good of your value, building more bridge, and more religious based cooperation with them; so they can softened more and can accept your religion, culture, and value. Without that, good luck with the allies "All weather Friend" jargon.

Very wise words. I totally agree. Most of our members lack maturity, patience & wisdom. Their emotions are at the tip of their tongues and this is really bad. Furthermore, none has bothered to verify the reports which are created by the people who are their enemies.

 

[Dubious]

Really, US says China and Pakistan are two countries with the worst religious persecution, so you decide to join US and accuse China after being accused same as China, how smart a guy you are.

And this kind of attitude isn't going to yield much.

You stated the truth and now when the truth is repeated under human rights law you call me American lolz

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

There are many sources of the news. Both sides need to show maturity & respect. If one side will call the other as violator of the human rights, the other responds with counter arguments and disrespect. But the idiots are basing their opinions on western media. How ironic..

The only thing which bothered me is that some Chinese posters are very proud that prayers/salat are not allowed in schools.

I want to verify the truth about this, but I doubt they can give me proof one way or the other.

Just seems like they have some wishful thinking.

 

[Dubious]

human rights in Pakistan is more worst,
I worry about the Christian in Pakistan very much.

Thread is not about Pakistan stop derailing it with your insecurities ....It will be counted as trolling!

 

[war&peace]

The only thing which bothered me is that some Chinese posters are very proud that prayers/salat are not allowed in schools.

I want to verify the truth about this, but I doubt they can give me proof one way or the other.

Just seems like they have some wishful thinking.

Even they are brainwashed by the western propaganda against Islam. What they need to understand is that stopping the people from practicing the peaceful religious traditions and interfering in their personal lives will only result in the dissent and violence. If they are serious about resolving the violence, they should let people practice their religion however keep an eye on extremists.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Even they are brainwashed by the western propaganda against Islam. What they need to understand is that stopping the people from practicing the peaceful religious traditions and interfering in their personal lives will only result in the dissent and violence. If they are serious about resolving the violence, they should let people practice their religion however keep an eye on extremists.

I trust Xi Jinping, he is a great visionary leader and I have full confidence in him.

All issues will be ironed out and harmony will again be restored, in sha Allah.

We will go far together, regardless of what the detractors may think.



Today, US, Israel, and India are crying to see us united. Tomorrow, the whole world will be envious.

 

[war&peace]

I trust Xi Jinping, he is a great visionary leader and I have full confidence in him.

All issues will be ironed out and harmony will again be restored, in sha Allah.

We will go far together, regardless of what the detractors may think.



Today, US, Israel, and India are crying to see us united. Tomorrow, the whole world will be envious.

For that to work, both sides need to show some maturity and wisdom instead of letting their periodic hormonal cycle to ruin it. Also there are lot of false flaggers and some members have other affiliations including some title holders and they are under observation.

 

[Itachi]

That's the biggest lie you guys ever made, Xinjiang used to suffer terrorist attacks on weekly to monthly basis like Pakistan, thousands died including the police and civilians, most were civilians. only in recently years after China took preventive meausres in recent years that Xinjiang becomes the safest and most peaceful region in the world with zero terrorism. but Pakistani civilians still die from regular attacks and you ask us tho change, do you think we will and let Xinjiang slip back to a war zone economy.

lol "terrorist attacks"....more like freedom fighters fighting for their rights and homeland after being brutalized for decades by Communist policies and tactics.

No matter what you peddle on here and what your elk and followers say, the truth has been slowly revealing itself and will keep revealing itself. Those that turn a blind eye to the Uyghur persecution will themselves be persecuted in the future, that's how it works.

Speak up for someone and you'll have friends. Speak up for no one and one day, no one will speak up for you.

or tomorrow we are next

Yup, that's what a lot of idiot Pakistanis (foreign or living in the homeland) don't realize. That they're next on the list of the international gang of criminals....if they don't stand up for all the Muslims across the world, not just selectively choose which to support and which not to, then no one will come to support us when the time comes.

And they think China is here because it wants to be our friend? LOL.....China is here for it's own benefit...the day relations between India, China and the US normalize, the day China will join the gang against us.

The only reason why it's goodie goodie with us is because it needs us.

Thread is not about Pakistan stop derailing it with your insecurities ....It will be counted as trolling!

When presented with the Truth or an alternative opinion, they go back to trolling the person, his/her religion, nationality, country of living and birth....everything but what's being talked about.

You can see here that I haven't trolled one bit but I have been trolled upon multiple times and even reported them.

Plus you banned me from the other Xinjiang thread for no reason and you still see me as not trolling. You should be more harder on these people that spread lies and half-truths.

 

[Dubious]

When presented with the Truth or an alternative opinion, they go back to trolling the person, his/her religion, nationality, country of living and birth....everything but what's being talked about.

You can see here that I haven't trolled one bit but I have been trolled upon multiple times and even reported them.

Plus you banned me from the other Xinjiang thread for no reason and you still see me as not trolling. You should be more harder on these people that spread lies and half-truths.

I did ban you and I have my reasons that I don't remember now

But I agree this is too much

 

[war&peace]

lol "terrorist attacks"....more like freedom fighters fighting for their rights and homeland after being brutalized for decades by Communist policies and tactics.

No matter what you peddle on here and what your elk and followers say, the truth has been slowly revealing itself and will keep revealing itself. Those that turn a blind eye to the Uyghur persecution will themselves be persecuted in the future, that's how it works.

Speak up for someone and you'll have friends. Speak up for no one and one day, no one will speak up for you.



Yup, that's what a lot of idiot Pakistanis (foreign or living in the homeland) don't realize. That they're next on the list of the international gang of criminals....if they don't stand up for all the Muslims across the world, not just selectively choose which to support and which not to, then no one will come to support us when the time comes.

And they think China is here because it wants to be our friend? LOL.....China is here for it's own benefit...the day relations between India, China and the US normalize, the day China will join the gang against us.

The only reason why it's goodie goodie with us is because it needs us.

Uygur Muslims in Xinjiang have been living peacefully for centuries. But recently some foreign funded terrorist tried to disturb the peace and penetrate the society. They were sponsored and funded by CIA. They were not indigenous people and they cannot be called freedom fighters at all. They were terrorist and China & Pakistan jointly eliminated them.