ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[beijingwalker]

I'm using your tactics against you

What do you mean?

 

[striver44]

But curfews does happen in Kashmir, not in Xinjiang. Xinjiang is the most developed region in central and south Asia, what about Kashmir?

Curfews don't happen in Xinjiang when you lock the entire populace in camps. That explains.

 

[TaiShang]

There are military installation in a Xinjiang including the nuclear test site. Xinjiang is the same. Any places can be visited by public except those. I can bet those BBC BS about Xinjiang military site as non accessible by public as evidence of so called re educational camp.

Xinjiang is one of the most popular regions for domestic and international tourism.

 

[striver44]

What do you mean?

Oooh nothing, just sharing usual Youtube video proof on why in there's no such genocide on place x based on videos.

 

[beijingwalker]

Curfews don't happen in Xinjiang when you lock the entire populace in camps. That explains.

Tell me another region that can develop this fast and achieve such progress while locking down the entire population. can you?

 

[Place Of Space]

Can you prove the women in your video attempted to stray off the areas designated open to foreign tourist? While thousands of travel blogs on the internet caution visitors from straying off the beaten path. The onerous security checks is frequently mentioned by many travelers to Xinjiang.

Tell me what you want to see? The genocide secene and Uighurs mass grave? sorry it doesn't exist. Your propagandas set up non-exist and try all ways to prove it, that's ridiculous.

 

[beijingwalker]

Oooh nothing, just sharing usual Youtube video proof on why in there's no such genocide on place x based on videos.

I was asking if you are really an Indonesia and what is this supposed to mean?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Yes officially that is correct but not true in practice. Layers and layers of security checks that become stricter as you approach sensitive areas discourage most foreigners from probing too deep.

Who decides what is ‘prevented from probing too deep’?

The same Western outlets and governments that have a vested interest in preventing China’s rise and therefore retaining their hegemony over the global order? So they can go on continuing their wars resulting in perhaps millions dead, overthrowing regimes and cherry-picking despots (GCC & Arab monarchs & dictators) and regimes carrying out occupations and atrocities (Israel & India) and declaring them ‘Kosher’ and bolstering them with high tech weapons, aid, technology and legitimacy through support for memberships in prestigious international organizations?

When has China done anything even remotely close to that?

 

[beijingwalker]

Doesn't matter, your development has nothing to do with the current sorry state of it's minorities.

But tell me another region that can develop this fast and achieve such progress while locking down the entire population as you claimed, can you?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

But tell me another region that can develop this fast and achieve such progress while locking down the entire population as you claimed, can you?

He/She is Thread banned for a week for trolling with off topic nonsense.

Egypt and the Pharoahs? Really?

 

[TaiShang]

Online event held to present real Xinjiang amid piles of lies - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

An online event was held to introduce Northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region to more outsiders on Thursday with ambassadors from many countries attending to listen to stories of former trainees of Xinjiang's education centers, imams, and female representatives.

The event, themed "Xinjiang is a Wonderful Land" was jointly held by the Xinjiang regional government and China's Permanent Mission to the United Nations Office at Geneva and other International Organizations in Switzerland via video link. Diplomats from many countries, including Laos, Pakistan and Zimbabwe as well as officials from UN agencies attended.

Ambassador Chen Xu said at the event that over the years, Xinjiang has made unprecedented achievements in economic and social development and improvements of people's livelihoods. At present, Xinjiang enjoys stability and people there live and work in peace and happiness.

"However, certain countries and forces hate to see what Xinjiang enjoys today… They deliberately distort facts, wantonly slander and smear China... Some politicians have concocted lies and accused China of committing the so-called 'genocide' and 'crimes against humanity,' Their acts are firmly opposed by the people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang," Chen said.

Lies repeated a thousand times are still lies. They can neither change the fact that Xinjiang is prosperous and developing, and the people of all ethnic groups enjoy a happy life, nor can they stop Xinjiang's strides forward, said Chen.

Erkin Tuniyaz, vice chairman of the region, also delivered a keynote speech and noted the event is intended to present the real Xinjiang for attendees to come to their own conclusions amid lies by some Western and the US politicians who accused China of committing genocide, forced labor and forced sterilization in the region.

Representatives of graduated trainees from former vocational education and training centers appeared at the event and told stories of how they were influenced by extremism and how their lives have been changed after graduating from the centers. Representatives of residents and imams also attended the event to debunk the lies.

Ramagul Hudabardi, a Uygur mother of three children, introduced her experience to refute the forced sterilization rumor.

The old idea that women must stay home and give birth to tens of children has changed, and her three children are better cared for by the family and the social welfare system, she said, noting she got regular health checks during pregnancies and her children can receive free education until the end of high school.

At the event, a video on how livestreaming promotion and e-commerce channels are helping Xinjiang residents sell their local specialties across the country was streamed and a video which introduced a student's life and study at a Xinjiang Islamic Institute gave audience a general impression of the reality in the region.

Ambassador Kham-Inh Khitchadeth from Laos recalled his experience in visiting Xinjiang in 2019 and said that there is no "one-fit-for-all" approach in development patterns and the Chinese government has made great achievements in social development and human rights protection.

The ambassador also suggested people should visit Xinjiang rather than listen to "fake news" about the region.

In response to Cuba Ambassador Juan Quintanilla's question on how people in Xinjiang reacted to US former secretary of state Mike Pompeo's "genocide" accusation against Xinjiang, Gu Guixiang, a senior regional official said that this is a farce and the "lie of the century."

Anti-China forces' attempts to make trouble in Xinjiang or to draw Xinjiang back to the previous nightmare of frequent terrorist attacks are doomed to fail, Xu said.

 

[NiceDay]

I was asking if you are really an Indonesia and what is this supposed to mean?

I bet he is the descendant of Keling refugees living in Indonesia

 

[beijingwalker]

Uighur twin sister social media influencer: Xinjiang genocide? Crime against humanity? TOTAL BULLSHIT.

 

[striver44]

While 20th century genocides were conducted with punch cards and paper ledgers, China is targeting Uyghur with state-of-the-art biometrics, surveillance systems and AI
Author of the article:
Tristin Hopper
Publishing date:
Jan 28, 2021 • 6 days ago • 5 minute read

A "re-education camp" established by Chinese state authorities in Aksu, Xinjiang. PHOTO BY AUSTRALIAN STRATEGIC POLICY INSTITUTE
In the last month, a series of bipartisan declarations have emerged from the United States accusing the People’s Republic of China of perpetrating “genocide” in its treatment of Uyghur minority populations in the country’s northwest. While a parliamentary subcommittee has urged in recent months that Canada follow suit, there have been no such declarations from the government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Below, a quick primer on what China is doing in its northwest, and why international observers are calling it one of the most systematic attempts at state genocide since the Holocaust.
‘Largest mass incarceration of a minority population’

Starting in earnest around 2017, the People’s Republic of China has been opening a vast network of “re-education centres” in Xinjiang, in the country’s northwest. Between one and two million mostly Muslim Xinjiang residents — ethnic Uyghurs most prominent — have been forcibly sent to these centres for “crimes” as simple as going to Mosque or texting a relative in Turkey. A 2018 statement from the US Congressional-Executive Commission on China called the system “the largest mass incarceration of a minority population in the world today”


China has persistently referred to these facilities as “boarding schools” or “vocational training centres,” even when they clearly include guard towers and high walls topped with razor wire. A leaked 2019 video showed large groups of blindfolded, freshly shaved Uyghur men being forced to kneel on the ground to await processing at a Xinjiang train station.

Using satellite imagery, the Australian Strategic Policy Institute has meticulously assembled 3D models of nearly 400 Uyghur detention facilities in Xinjiang. A 2018 Reuters investigation analyzed local government construction tenders to confirm that these facilities were designed to be fully equipped with prison-like surveillance and security systems.
Former detainees, some of whom have recently testified before a Canadian House of Commons subcommittee, have reported being subjected to brutal regimens of indoctrination, with torture and sexual abuse of dissenters. In recent years, evidence has also emerged of Uyghur detainees being used as forced labour in Chinese factories.

‘In the future, the idea of Uyghur will be in name only, but without its meaning’
When it comes to regions bristling under Chinese rule, Tibet generally gets most of the world’s attention. But Xinjiang has had an uneasy relationship with Communist China from day one.
The region is heavily Muslim with ethnic and cultural origins that are much more in line with neighbouring Uzbekistan. The region only became viewed as a definitively Chinese territory upon its conquest by the Qing Dynasty in the 1870s. In the 1930s and 1940s, the region twice capitalized on political instability in China to break away as an Islamic republic, and pressure to do again was re-ignited by the 1991 collapse of the neighbouring Soviet Union. The interim three decades have seen incidents of ethnic riots in Xinjiang and violence from Uyghur separatists, such as a 2010 suicide bombing that killed seven.

One of the most widely circulated images depicting conditions within the re-education camps. Taken in 2017, it was originally part of a post touting government “deradicalization” efforts.
The presidency of Xi Jinping saw an immediate ramping-up of repression in Xinjiang with the launch of the “Strike Hard Campaign against Violent Terrorism.” Even before the opening of re-education centres, Xinjiang residents had their passports confiscated and saw their cities peppered with police checkpoints.
The deadliest genocides of the 20th century were carried out with punch cards and paper ledgers. A particularly chilling dimension to China’s actions in Xinjiang is how authorities have fully mobilized the resources of a 21st century surveillance state. Between 2016 and 2017, roughly the entire population of Xinjiang was required to turn over biometric data such as DNA samples and iris scans in a program dubbed Physicals for All.
Uyghur economist Ilham Tohti, who fled Xinjiang in 2017 after being accused of “separatism,” told Human Rights Watch that the ultimate goal is to thoroughly purge Xinjiang of all inkling of distinct identity and “identify with the country, such that, in the future, the idea of Uyghur will be in name only, but without its meaning.”
‘They have some problems with their thoughts’
Chinese authorities have been quite explicit about branding Uyghur’s culture and their Islamic faith as a mental illness or an “ideological virus.” In a Tweet earlier this month, China’s US Embassy claimed that by “eradicating extremism” in Xinjiang, Uyghur women were “no longer baby-making machines.”

Internal Chinese documents leaked to the New York Times reveal that when Uyghurs inquire about relatives who have gone missing at the hands of authorities, they are told to “treasure this chance for free education that the party and government has provided to thoroughly eradicate erroneous thinking, and also learn Chinese and job skills.” When BBC investigators asked residents in the Xinjiang city of Dabancheng in 2018 about the emergence of a new high-security “re-education” centre in their midst, one replied that it was for the tens of thousands of Xinjiang residents experiencing “problems with their thoughts.”


One pro-internment article aimed at Uyghur readers claimed that “being ‘infected’ by religious extremism and violent terrorist ideology but not receiving immediate ‘re-education’ is similar to contracting an illness but not seeking a cure, or becoming a drug addict but refusing treatment.” A counsellor at one of these facilities told Chinese reporters that once detainees “study well and their mental state is healthy, they will be able to live happily in society.”
In December, 2019, Xinjiang Governor Shohrat Zakir held a news conference in which he praised the “graduation” of Uyghurs from the centres, saying “with the help of the government, stable employment has been achieved and their quality of life has been improved.”
‘They want to destroy us as a people’
From the available evidence, China’s actions in Xinjiang lack the targeted mass-murder that characterized genocides such as the Holocaust or the Holodomor, the Soviet Union’s engineered starvation of several million Ukrainians. The United Nations Convention on Genocide, drafted only months after the liberation of Nazi death and forced labour camps, characterized genocide as any deliberate attempt to inflict “physical destruction” on a people. In this, the convention’s framers saw fit to also characterize a genocidal regime as one “imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.”
An AP investigation last year found that China’s Xinjiang crackdown has been accompanied by a wave of forced sterilization, birth control and abortion. The Xinjiang birth rate is now indeed in freefall, with population growth in some regions falling by more than 80 per cent.
The AP interviewed Gulnar Omirzakh, who was slapped with exorbitant fines and ordered to insert an Intrauterine Device after she had her third child. “To prevent people from having children is wrong … they want to destroy us as a people,” she said.

'They want to destroy us': Why China's actions in Xinjiang are being called genocide

While 20th century genocides were conducted with punch cards and paper ledgers, China is targeting Uyghur with state-of-the-art biometrics, surveillance systems and…

nationalpost.com

 

[striver44]

@waz @AgNoStiC MuSliM @BHarwana @Adios Amigo @The Eagle @WebMaster why isn't this in the Xinjiang thread?