ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[Beast]

 

[Pax Pakistanica]

Really?

I don't think it's a good idea to defend your position by posting a news report from an outlet that is solely funded by the Chinese government. They are no different from the Kremlin-funded Russian TV which does its absolute best to present Russia as a utopian society and its infallible leader Vladimir Putin.

What do you have to say regarding these leaked Chinese documents regarding the East Turkmen?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html

 

[Beast]

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I don't think it's a good idea to defend your position by posting a news report from an outlet that is solely funded by the Chinese government. They are no different from the Kremlin-funded Russian TV which does its absolute best to present Russia as a utopian society and its infallible leader Vladimir Putin.

What do you have to say regarding these leaked Chinese documents regarding the East Turkmen?

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html

You seriously think Washington Post , CNN or nytimes are true independent media outlet? As included Free Asia radio?

Is does not matter, it government agency or not. What matters is the fact presented by CGTN. Is the fake video accused against Chinese government made up? A simple search by you can easily found out the true whether malicious lies of fake torture by other against China really happen anot. The fact, this video even present name and face of the victim claim to be missing but not. Clearly shown Chinese government are confident of the truth. A true independent agency can easily travel to xinjiang and ask those on spot for verification while the western propangada present question source which cannot be verify.

I don't see how my video post got anything to do with the truth. Are you going to deny there is no agenda or biases against Chinese by western media?

As for that report, there is no way the media can verify the authenticity of it but purely post vague link to imply it.

Let me ask you , how do you know it's an official document? Can logo and stamp be faked? Sure I don't need an expert to tell u that.

 

[Pax Pakistanica]

British empire was not going to stay for ever. It came up with new exit strategy, it started nurturing future leaders of many countries. Its funny how bunch of Britishers got together and drew maps of nations that are suppose to win "independence" and installed their puppets who ensure Muslim nations remain confused as fuc as to which ruling system to fallow. Tell me in which Islamic history did they ever get independence like that? Did salahuddin first go to the crusaders land (europe) get nurtured and then asked them to draw maps for muslim's land or did he fight them until they were kicked out?

Reminds me of the Earl of Cromer, who tried to popularize and liberalize his administration in Egypt in an attempt to slowly secularize and strip Islam from the society.

 

[Pax Pakistanica]

You seriously think Washington Post , CNN or nytimes are true independent media outlet? As included Free Asia radio?

Is does not matter, it government agency or not. What matters is the fact presented by CGTN. Is the fake video accused against Chinese government made up? A simple search by you can easily found out the true whether malicious lies of fake torture by other against China really happen anot. The fact, this video even present name and face of the victim claim to be missing but not. Clearly shown Chinese government are confident of the truth. A true independent agency can easily travel to xinjiang and ask those on spot for verification while the western propangada present question source which cannot be verify.

I don't see how my video post got anything to do with the truth. Are you going to deny there is no agenda or biases against Chinese by western media?

As for that report, there is no way the media can verify the authenticity of it but purely post vague link to imply it.

Let me ask you , how do you know it's an official document? Can logo and stamp be faked? Sure I don't need an expert to tell u that.

If such were the case, the Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang would have denied these documents completely as absolute rubbish, but instead accused New York Times' reporters of willful misinterpretation. One must also ask how these documents have so much written regarding the internal affairs of Xingjiang and the actions of Wang Yongzhi. The news report that I presented to you has documents that include directives and reports on the surveillance and control of the East Turkmen population in Xinjiang, and 44 pages of material from internal investigations into local officials.

Regarding an "independent agency" that isn't funded by any particular nation. Vice, ventured into Xingjiang and were followed all-around their drive to Kashgar. There are numerous testimonies by East Turkmen ex-pats in Canada, Australia, and America regarding their extended families being under arrest by the Chinese government.

 

[Destrius]

Under Chinese rule: Beards and burkhas banned. Alcohol and miniskirts allowed.

Under Islamist rule: Miniskirts and alcohol banned. Beards and burkhas for everyone.

It's commendable China is trying to uplift it's people out of the middle ages. I don't think there is any reason to criticize the Chinese on how they run their own country.

 

[Indos]

Indonesia seeks clarification on latest situation in Xinjiang
20th December 2019

"So from time to time, we conduct communication. This shows how serious we are to see development in the field"

Jakarta (ANTARA) - The Indonesian Foreign Ministry continues to seek clarification from the Chinese government about the latest developments in Xinjiang region related to the alleged discrimination and persecution of the Uighur Muslim ethnic group. "Indonesia has made and will always make approaches with the Chinese government through bilateral communication to discuss the Xinjiang issue," spokesman for the Foreign Ministry Teuku Faizasyah said in Jakarta Friday,

"So from time to time, we conduct communication. This shows how serious we are to see development in the field," he said.

Indonesian Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi also touched on the Xinjiang issue during a meeting with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi on the sidelines of the 14th Asia-Europe Ministerial Meeting held in Madrid, Spain, on Monday, December 18.

At the meeting, Retno asked Wang Yi to clarify the latest situation in Xinjiang. Wang Yi said China guarantees freedom of religion for Muslims in Xinjiang.

Earlier in the day, Indonesian Ulemas Council (MUI) Secretary General Anwar Abbas urged the ongoing Kuala Lumpur (KL) Summit to take a firm, stern stance against China to optimally fight the repression of the Uighur ethnic group in Xinjiang.

"The MUI calls on participants of the summit of Islamic countries in Kuala Lumpur or the KL Summit to take a firm and firm stance against the Chinese government," Abbas noted in a written statement released Friday.

Muslims across the world vehemently oppose China's mistreatment of Uighur Muslims, he stated.

The Chinese government has blatantly violated the human rights of Uighur Muslims, including preventing them from offering religious services under their religion and belief, he remarked.

"We realize that as a state, China has the right to govern them. However, they must not suppress the human rights of their people, especially the fundamental rights of Muslims there," he said.

He urged the Chinese government to end the violence against Uighur Muslims with immediate effect. The ethnic minority in China should be allowed to exercise their religious rights and follow their religious teachings properly.

In the absence of this, the world will be dragged into new local and global tensions, he cautioned.

"People in each country, especially Muslim nations, including Indonesia, will appeal to their government to take a firm stand against the Chinese government. Thus, it will have a detrimental impact on the development they are conducting," he added.

Reporter: Yashinta Difa/Suharto
Editor: Gusti Nur Cahya Aryani
COPYRIGHT © ANTARA 2019

https://en.antaranews.com/news/138500/indonesia-seeks-clarification-on-latest-situation-in-xinjiang

 

[UKBengali]

Well done Indonesia!

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Well done Indonesia!

Indonesia: China, please clarify what you're doing in Xinjiang.
China: F*ck off.
Indonesia: Thank you for the clarification.

 

[Indos]

Well done Indonesia!

Antara is also an Indonesia government news agency. So the news here is not made just for the sake of getting the reader. It has both Indonesian and English version.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antara_(news_agency)

 

[UKBengali]

Indonesia: China, please clarify what you're doing in Xinjiang.
China: F*ck off.
Indonesia: Thank you for the clarification.

Both Turkey and Indonesia are now speaking up publicly.
More Muslim countries will follow.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Indonesia: China, please clarify what you're doing in Xinjiang.
China: F*ck off.
Indonesia: Thank you for the clarification.

LOL At least they tried i guess.

 

[Indos]

LOL At least they tried i guess.

That is not the first attempt

China responds to Indonesia’s question about alleged abuse of Xinjiang’s Muslims

• Dian Septiari
  The Jakarta Post
  

Bandung / Thu, December 20, 2018 / 11:35 am

Men dance in front of the Id Kah Mosque after morning prayers on June 26, 2017 during Idul Fitri in the old town of Kashgar in China's Xinjiang Uighur autonomous region. (Agence France -Presse/Johannes Esielle)

China has responded to Indonesia’s question about alleged human rights abuse against Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang, saying that Beijing guaranteed the religious freedom of all of its citizens, including the Uighurs.

A Chinese Embassy spokesman in Jakarta said in a statement on Thursday that “China is a country with multiple ethnic groups and religions".

“As prescribed in the Constitution, all Chinese citizens enjoy the freedom of religious belief,” the statement said.

The statement said that the Chinese government was facing the threat of religious extremism in Xinjiang, which is home to about 14 million Muslims. Some Xinjiang residents, it said, had struggled to find jobs because of their poor command of the nation’s official language and lack of skills.

“This has made them vulnerable to the instigation and coercion of terrorism and extremism,” it said.

“In light of the situation, Xinjiang has established professional vocational training institutions as the platform, providing courses on China’s common language, legal knowledge, vocational skills, along with de-radicalization education for citizens influenced by extremist ideas.”

Previously, the Foreign Ministry said it had summoned Chinese Ambassador to Indonesia Xiao Qian on Monday to convey the concerns of Indonesian Muslims about the plight of Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang.

“The Foreign Ministry stressed that in accordance with the universal declaration of human rights, religious freedom and belief are human rights and it is the responsibility of all countries to respect it,” ministry spokesperson Arrmanatha Nasir told reporters on the sidelines of the Diplofest event on Wednesday evening.

He said Xiao Qian conveyed China’s commitment to the protection of human rights. In addition, the ambassador said it was very important for the Indonesian public to know the condition of the Uighurs in Xinjiang, an autonomous region.

“Even though it is a domestic issue, the Foreign Ministry noted the embassy’s intention to expand communication with various civil society groups in order to convey information about the condition of the Uighur community.”

The summons of the Chinese ambassador came shortly after Indonesian Islamic groups demanded an explanation on the situation in Xinjiang.

Western countries have accused China of persecuting Uighurs through its “re-education centers”, which Beijing insisted were actually vocational and training centers that combat religious extremism.

The situation in Xinjiang was highlighted during China’s third United Nations Human Rights Council’s universal periodic review last month.

Human Rights Watch says Uighur people in particular are subject to intense surveillance and are made to give DNA and biometric samples.

Muhammadiyah chairman Haedar Nashir said if the reports were true, then China had violated universal human rights and his organization was ready to mobilize humanitarian and material support for peace in Xinjiang, especially for the Uighur community.

”The Chinese government’s inaction is feared to hurt diplomatic relations between Indonesia and China, and the good relations our people have had for centuries,” Haedar said as quoted by Antara on Wednesday.

Social media messages calling on Indonesians to take to the streets to defend Uighurs have been circulating online in the last few days.

On Monday, the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) advisory council leader and former chairman of Muhammadiyah, Din Syamsuddin, said the alleged crackdown was an outright violation of basic human rights and demanded that the Indonesian government take firm action to advocate for the Uighur people.

Responding to the MUI’s call, Vice President Jusuf Kalla said Indonesia would not interfere in China’s handling of Uighur Muslims.

“Of course we reject or [want to] prevent any human rights violations. However, we don’t want to intervene in the domestic affairs of another country,” Kalla told journalists on Monday.

The Chinese Embassy’s spokesman said that, “China and Indonesia have always supported each other on issues concerning respective major interests.

“I believe after knowing the real situation in Xinjiang, our Indonesian friends would better understand and support the Chinese government's efforts to combat terrorism and extremism and to safeguard stability and security in Xinjiang,” he said.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news...about-alleged-abuse-of-xinjiangs-muslims.html

 

[Sehnsucht]

My respect for Indonesia grows day by day.Hope to see it claim a leadership position of the Muslim world in the future.

 

[Ritual]

May Allah bless Indonesia. Your citizens came out to protest, without any call or campaign in the so called protector of the Holy Mosques or the Arab world, they took their own initiative to seek help for the Uighurs. Well done.