All The World's Militaries...

[kbd-raaf]

People seem to forget that most of the nations of the world are US allies.

Most of the significant nations anyway.

Outside of China and Russia there are no significant countries that aren't US allies. Those two nations couldn't leave their home waters without being blasted out of existence by the USN.

Let alone the combined might of the USN + USMC + USAF + US Army + US Coast Guard + Assorted paramilitaries + the most gun friendly population etc etc.

And then we have the matter of US allies. 8/10 of the top ten economies in the world are US allies, the US or friendly towards the US.

 

[vostok]

There are meaningful debates, facts, reasonable opinions and then fanboys rants. Sorry, gays and parades have no barring on the outcome of wars.

Parades - one of the signs of fighting spirit of nation.
If the country does not have the fighting spirit and its army can fight for the money, but do not want to die for them - it can not win even a weak enemy. Not to mention the strong.
The French were not weaker than the Germans, but they did not have the fighting spirit and they did not fight.
The Serbs were weaker than 100 times, but they had a fighting spirit and they fought.
Here ia another example.

This is a Soviet soldier wrote on the wall of the fortress of Brest.
"I'm dying, but do not give up. Goodbye Motherland. 20.07. 41"
He fought a month, and Brest - on the border with Germany.
France fought only slightly longer than the Red Army soldiers in Brest.

 

[jhungary]

I was talking of 'training'! And by the way, there's a world of a difference between training and visiting. The US troops aren't visiting India for a holiday in a spa retreat. They are here to get trained.

Lol if you can say troop visiting or exchange, then you can say the world also did help train the US troop

Usually, a unit visit a foreign would followed by an training session or doing exercise with the host, that train is part of information exchange done with a foreign country.

See, we don't send our troop overseas for spa vacation, visiting a foreign military would usually include idea exchange and exercise

Training rotation is a different thing, it is a permenant rotation, where we pipe out troop overseas on regular basis for specialist training

I did part of my jump training when my unit were visiting Italy for 45 days, does that mean the Italian teach me how to parachute?

 

[notorious_eagle]

We Indians have been trying to teach American GIs how to fight an insurgency in our Counter Insurgency and Jungle Warfare School in India, but they don't seem to have learned much! They need to put their heads to it and show more seriousness in their training.

Comparing the insurgency the US faces in Afghanistan against what India faces is like comparing the difficulty of Advanced Calculus with Kindergarten Maths.

Do you know why the US has the most well drilled military machine in the world? Its because they put their ego's in their pockets, and go learn. The US sends its Officers and troops to countries all around the world, India is not the only one.

The problem is, US have minimal import on anything, we have our iron ore, oil field, enough far spans the can last us for decade.
People we engage in economic sanction can't fight back, if the world sanction us, we will just use for e to take what we need, we are currently the only country that can strike any part of the world within 24 hours.
and for the blockade to work, you need to destroy the US navy at home, indeed the world combine have 10 carrier, the problem is, you are talking about fighting the US navy in the home soil, that mean the world navy need to expedite into assaulting US Navy with US territories, terrorities supported by ground and air element
On the other hand the world navy is away from their supply line, you do know each day of operation used supply, supply you cannot have bought with and resupply is needed, when the supply ran out, either your fleet become sitting duck or you need to sail to your home port, which you are talking about a months absent
Lid you cannot destroy the US Navy at home, blockade is useless

Sir

I don't think anyone over here is under the assumption that the US can be defeated in a conventional fight. The US is too strong economically and militarily for any country to even pose a credible threat to the US.

 

[jaibi]

In agreement with @notorious_eagle I would also like to point out that the US military has constantly been engaged in one conflict in every decade of this century and has learnt some hard lessons.

 

[Informant]

USA is the superpower unmatched in history, and conventional warfare they can tackle each and every nation. Now they might exhaust their supplies but they will never be defeated. Damn their airforce will make mincemeat out of everyone.

 

[Oldman1]

USA is the superpower unmatched in history, and conventional warfare they can tackle each and every nation. Now they might exhaust their supplies but they will never be defeated. Damn their airforce will make mincemeat out of everyone.

U.S. Air Force and Navy are hardly been pushed to the brink.

 

[notorious_eagle]

U.S. Air Force and Navy are hardly been pushed to the brink.

And who is going to push them to the brink? Anyone with a decent military mind would know that USAF will make mince meat out of anyone stupid enough to challenge them. Their technology, training, coordination and discipline is simply unmatched in the world. Forget the USAF, there is no Air Force in the world that can challenge USN Aviation Wing.

 

[T-123456]

In offence,the US is allways nr 1 no doubt about that.
In defence however it depends on the country.
Since none of the top five powers after the US will ever engage in a war against the US,the US allways will be the nr 1.

 

[OrionHunter]

Comparing the insurgency the US faces in Afghanistan against what India faces is like comparing the difficulty of Advanced Calculus with Kindergarten Maths.

Don't talk like an imbecile straight out of rehab. Do you even know WTF you're talking about? You have no clue what insurgency is all about. You haven't even seen what Nagaland amd Mizoram were a few years ago when insurgency was at its height. What Americans are facing is just a band of yahoos who've been spinning the GIs around on their fingers because the Yanks haven't a clue on how to fight in a counter insurgency environment, seeing that they are geared mostly for fighting conventional battles.

The GIs spend, on their tour of combat duty, less than a year in places like Afghanistan and earlier Iraq due to fatigue and psychological problems of US troops related to COIN ops. In contrast the normal tenure for the IA is 2-3 years in far tougher environments. And the IA has been conducting COIN ops for the past more than 50 years continuously. What experience have the GIs got? A few months in Afghanistan!! And you claim you are experts in counter insurgency operations? Jeeez!
So don't shoot from the hip when you yourself haven't served in an insurgency environment in extremely hostile terrain facing insurgents who are tougher and more motivated than the Taliban. Yes, I'm talking of the Nagas. Heard of them before?

It's only now that the militants have joined the mainstream and little is left of the insurgency in the East which the Army has finally put down.

 

[DejanSRB]

USA is the superpower unmatched in history

What are you talking about,unmatched in history???
Please,start reading.Roman Empire troops was most trained and efficient troops in history of the World,and Spartans,Arabs in Khalid Bin Waleed times,Saladin troops,Soviet troops during WW2,Schutzstaffel SS divisions.....USA troops isnt in top 10.

On economy,do you know that China before Great Wall have biggest gold reserves in that times.
Do you know that Imperial Russia(Tzarist) have similiar reserves like China.
I will not speak about Roman Empire,even about Austro-Hungary,Byzantine,Otoman Empire.

USA(or any country) will never be hyperpower like Roman Empire.

Compare ONLY 68 years of US dominance with Roman 2000 years,with Ottoman 400,with Tzarist Russia 200,with Chinese rule of South and East Asia for almost 3000 years.

 

[Oldman1]

What are you talking about,unmatched in history???
Please,start reading.Roman Empire troops was most trained and efficient troops in history of the World,and Spartans,Arabs in Khalid Bin Waleed times,Saladin troops,Soviet troops during WW2,Schutzstaffel SS divisions.....USA troops isnt in top 10.

On economy,do you know that China before Great Wall have biggest gold reserves in that times.
Do you know that Imperial Russia(Tzarist) have similiar reserves like China.
I will not speak about Roman Empire,even about Austro-Hungary,Byzantine,Otoman Empire.

USA(or any country) will never be hyperpower like Roman Empire.

Compare ONLY 68 years of US dominance with Roman 2000 years,with Ottoman 400,with Tzarist Russia 200,with Chinese rule of South and East Asia for almost 3000 years.

Define hyperpower...

 

[vostok]

What are you talking about,unmatched in history???
Please,start reading.Roman Empire troops was most trained and efficient troops in history of the World,and Spartans,Arabs in Khalid Bin Waleed times,Saladin troops,Soviet troops during WW2,Schutzstaffel SS divisions.....USA troops isnt in top 10.

On economy,do you know that China before Great Wall have biggest gold reserves in that times.
Do you know that Imperial Russia(Tzarist) have similiar reserves like China.
I will not speak about Roman Empire,even about Austro-Hungary,Byzantine,Otoman Empire.

USA(or any country) will never be hyperpower like Roman Empire.

Compare ONLY 68 years of US dominance with Roman 2000 years,with Ottoman 400,with Tzarist Russia 200,with Chinese rule of South and East Asia for almost 3000 years.

All the propaganda of America, especially the Hollywood CIA Division aims to inspire other nations myth of the invincibility of America.
The reality is otherwise.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Don't talk like an imbecile straight out of rehab. Do you even know WTF you're talking about? You have no clue what insurgency is all about. You haven't even seen what Nagaland amd Mizoram were a few years ago when insurgency was at its height. What Americans are facing is just a band of yahoos who've been spinning the GIs around on their fingers because the Yanks haven't a clue on how to fight in a counter insurgency environment, seeing that they are geared mostly for fighting conventional battles.

The GIs spend, on their tour of combat duty, less than a year in places like Afghanistan and earlier Iraq due to fatigue and psychological problems of US troops related to COIN ops. In contrast the normal tenure for the IA is 2-3 years in far tougher environments. And the IA has been conducting COIN ops for the past more than 50 years continuously. What experience have the GIs got? A few months in Afghanistan!! And you claim you are experts in counter insurgency operations? Jeeez!
So don't shoot from the hip when you yourself haven't served in an insurgency environment in extremely hostile terrain facing insurgents who are tougher and more motivated than the Taliban. Yes, I'm talking of the Nagas. Heard of them before?

It's only now that the militants have joined the mainstream and little is left of the insurgency in the East which the Army has finally put down.

I actually i feel like i am talking to an imbecile still in a rehab. To even think that you would compare the ferocity of Taliban against the likes of half naked Maoists in Nagaland is laughable at best.

Do remind me, what kind of heavy weaponry do these people have? Last i checked, they still lacked the heavy weaponry required to actually fight a real battle. You want to compare them to the likes of Taliban using heavy automatic weapons which also includes RPG's. When was the last time the Naga's were setting up massive IED's right, left and centre on IA's supply routes. Heck, do the Naga's even know how to make a proper IED? When was the last time a Naga warrior blew himself up. They don't even have an international backer that can provide them with proper training. They are in the middle of nowhere with bare minimum means of getting war fighting supplies in. Not to mention, they don't even have the funds to fight the likes of Indian Army.

What India faces in Kashmir and Nagaland is child's play compared to what the US faces in Afghanistan. There is a reason why even the mighty Soviets were frustrated. The culture of asymmetric warfare in Afghanistan goes back hundreds of years, kids are trained to fight from the day they take birth. This inherent culture of guns and warfare does not exist in what you face in Nagaland.

Its laughable how ignorant you are. Its good to be patriotic, but it is stupid to be blindly patriotic. The reason why the US has the best Army in the world is simply because they have the most funds. They are the most well trained and disciplined soldiers in the world. So get off your high horse and stop living in a dream land.

 

[Juice]

tough time....? are you kidding....? if untrained, un-armed or armed with century year old weapons, no air-force or naval force, no command and control system,... mean TALIBAN give a tough time to Americans and they accepted it, then what is the need to come face to face for fight to US with China and Russia? Of course, America used Talibans to crush that time power of Russia, now the same policy is adopted by them i.e. Russia and China is probably feeding Afghan Talibans to fight against Americans... I am not speaking of Pakistani pseudo-Talibans, of course every one knows that whose puppets are they and on whose interests they are working right now... but Americans are focusing wrong game right now,

We have occupied it for over ten years....with remarkably low losses. An entire nation cannot throw out the troops we send and supply over many thousands of miles. And you think any nation can come across the vast oceans and occupy the US?