Akinci & Aksungur and Turkish Unmanned Fighter Aircraft Program

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LOL you forget about IAF and IN MIG-29k on carriers, and we we are talking about India vs Pakistan scenarios not India vs Turkey scenarios, IN will never come to deter Turkey in eastern Mediterranean

Pakistan has no Fighter Jets ?
Pakistan has no Coastal defense Missiles ?
Pakistan has no Frigates and Submarines ?
Pakistan has no 200 km HQ-9 SAMs ?

İndian MIG-29s will be easy to match with Pakistani Airforce + Navy

100 AKINCI and AKSUNGUR UCAVs would be game changer against Indian Navy



Pakistan needs Turkish technology to turn Indian Navy into crap of metal

Turkey has great Unmanned Vehicle technology

-- Unmanned Submarines armed with AKYA heavyweight Torpedos ... and bye bye İndian Aircraft Carriers
-- Unmanned Vessels armed with AKYA heavyweight Torpedo or MRASHM anti ship Missiles
-- AKINCI and MIUS UCAVs armed with SOM and KUZGUN to hit İndian Warships

 

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No but you're not thinking logically, 40,000 feet means its in the range of Medium and long range SAMs

how İndian Army can enter Pakistan with Medium and long range SAMs ?

even if India deploy S300/S400s to Pakistan border , then S300/S400s will be easy target against hundreds of Tactical Ballistic Missiles and guided MLRSs and land based Cruise Missiles

and Medium range SAMs can not stop AKINCI UCAV armed with 110km KUZGUN with IIR seeker

and MANPADS can not reach 40.000 feet altitude to hit AKINCI UCAV

if İndian Army try invade Pakistan , then Turkish UCAVs easly can rape İndian Army

No ECM systems is 100% fool proofs and reliable you knows nothing how many and which ECCM (electronic counter countermeasures) by your enemy

You knows nothing about Turkish technology

Even super powers USA , İsrael , Russia used the latest technology EW Systems to stop Turkish UCAVs in Syria and Libya to protect their proxies PKK/YPG , ASSAD Regime , HAFTAR , WAGNER

but USA , İsrael , Russia failed

India is nothing in EW technology to compare with USA , İsrael , Russia

 

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Pakistan has no Fighter Jets ?
Pakistan has no Coastal defense Missiles ?
Pakistan has no Frigates and Submarines ?
Pakistan has no 200 km HQ-9 SAMs ?

İndian MIG-29s will be easy to match with Pakistani Airforce + Navy

100 AKINCI and AKSUNGUR UCAVs would be game changer against Indian Navy



Pakistan needs Turkish technology to turn Indian Navy into crap of metal

Turkey has great Unmanned Vehichle technology

-- Unmanned Submarines armed with AKYA heavyweight Torpedos ... and bye bye İndian Aircraft Carriers
-- Unmanned Vessels armed with AKYA heavyweight Torpedo or MRASHM anti ship Missiles
-- AKINCI and MIUS UCAVs armed with SOM and KUZGUN to hit İndian Warships
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]LOL don't you compare us with 70+ F-16/ 150 block-1/2 JFT 70 odd Mirage-3/5 for strike and IAF has 270+MKI/ 80+ Mig-29/Mirage=2000 H equipped with latest avionics from RAFALE standards etc etc, frigate yes we have frigate but old we have 3 improved Type-53 H from China but these are not state of the art frigates with only short range SAM (HQ-7 (French Crotale copy)) , rest is old from Britain and some from USA without any proper SAMs on it same goes to our SUBs we have only 3 updated Augsta 90B from France rest of MIDGET subs of 70s era Augusta-70

No Pakistan haven't any HQ-9 yet but rumors are here that we are buying them recently and as for coastal missiles defense yes we have C-602 from China but in limited numbers

how İndian Army can enter Pakistan with Medium and long range SAMs ?

even if India deploy S300/S400s to Pakistan border , then S300/S400s will be easy target against hundreds of Tactical Ballistic Missiles and guided MLRSs and land based Cruise Missiles

and Medium range SAMs can not stop AKINCI UCAV armed with 110km KUZGUN with IIR seeker

and MANPADS can not reach 40.000 feet altitude to hit AKINCI UCAV

if İndian Army try invade Pakistan , then Turkish UCAVs easly can rape İndian Army

Oh brother you're not first one to Make top class UCAVs and IR guided smart munitions, and there is various ways to defeat any UCAVs and smart munitions

 

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You knows nothing about Turkish technology

Even super powers USA , İsrael , Russia used the latest technology EW Systems to stop Turkish UCAVs in Syria and Libya to protect their proxies PKK/YPG , ASSAD Regime , HAFTAR , WAGNER

but USA , İsrael , Russia failed

India is nothing in EW technology to compare with USA , İsrael , Russia

Yes yes your tech is so vastly superior to them that they can't stop you for hitting STAR TRECK USS ENTERPRIZE

 

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Oh brother you're not first one to Make top class UCAVs and IR guided smart munitions, and there is various ways to defeat any UCAVs and smart munitions

İndia has no this technology ... and only The US,İsrael,Turkey and China in the World



and For first time in the world, Turkey used Drones as primary element in air strikes


Only Turkish UCAVs destroyed most modern Russian SAMs.... its first in the World

now even The UK wants to own this technology


Turkey’s extensive deployment of Armed Drones in its fight against Syrian Regime Forces in Idlib province has put forward a "new military doctrine" in the world

after the Assad Regime attack on Turkish Forces in Idlib 27.02.2020 , Turkish UCAVs killed 3.322 Assad Regime , IRGC , Hezbolah militia including 6 generals

also Turkish UCAVs destroyed within a week

8 Air Defense Systems
155 Tanks
51 Howitzers
52 MLRS
29 AFVs
68 Military Vehicles
15 Anti Tank Weapons
36 Pick-up mounted anti aircraft guns
49 Ammunition Trucks
10 Ammunition Storage
2 Missile Systems

Syrian S300s even could not detect and engage on Turkish Bayraktar TB-2 UCAVs armed with only 8km MAM-L
and Bayraktar TB-2 UCAVs destroyed PANTSIR and BUK SAMs


now TURKEY is developing hunter-killer Drones AKINCI and MIUS to destroy other UCAVs , Aircrafts , Attack Helicopters , Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , Air Defense Systems , even Warships

 

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but For first time in the world, Turkey used Drones as primary element in air strikes


Only Turkish UCAVs destroyed most modern Russian SAMs in the World

now even The UK wants to own this technology


Turkey’s extensive deployment of Armed Drones in its fight against Syrian Regime Forces in Idlib province has put forward a "new military doctrine" in the world

after the Assad Regime attack on Turkish Forces in Idlib 27.02.2020 , Turkish UCAVs killed 3.322 Assad Regime , IRGC , Hezbolah militia including 6 generals

also Turkish UCAVs destroyed

8 Air Defense Systems
155 Tanks
51 Howitzers
52 MLRS
29 AFVs
68 Military Vehicles
15 Anti Tank Weapons
36 Pick-up mounted anti aircraft guns
49 Ammunition Trucks
10 Ammunition Storage
2 Missile Systems

Syrian S300s even could not detect and engage on Turkish Bayraktar TB-2 UCAVs armed with only 8km MAM-L


now TURKEY is developing hunter-killer Drones AKINCI and MIUS to destroy other UAVs , Attack Helicopters , Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , Air Defense Systems , even Warships

OH brother that's a lame reason there is unwritten accord in Syria not to engage any opponent weapons

 

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Yes yes your tech is so vastly superior to them that they can't stop you

its enoough for İndian Army , if İndian Army enter Pakistan territory



even Turkey can produce hundreds of TRLG-230

TRLG-230 laser guided supersonic Missile

Weight : 210 kg
Warhead : 50 kg
Range : 70 km

The way this missile works is that the Bayraktar TB2 UCAV locks on the target and this missile moves towards the target by locking the Drone and destroys even moving targets

also İndian Warships dont come close to Pakistan for amphibious assault operations

 

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its enoough for İndian Army , if İndian Army enter Pakistan territory



even Turkey can produce hundreds of TRLG-230

TRLG-230 laser guided supersonic Missile

Weight : 210 kg
Warhead : 50 kg
Range : 70 km

The way this missile works is that the Bayraktar TB2 UCAV locks on the target and this missile moves towards the target by locking the Drone and destroys even moving targets
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also İndian Warships dont come close to Pakistan for amphibious assault operations

oh brother we have better option from China and we have these kind of weapons

 

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oh brother we have better option from China and we have these kind of weapons

better option as like tiny Burraq ?

you have nothing which is similar to Turkish AKINCI

good luck with low quality Chinese Weapons





AKINCI UCAV vs AH-64 APACHE Attack Helicopter to hunt Tanks


UCAVs are more effective than Attack Helicopters to hunt Tanks

An 18 AKINCI UCAV battalion can carry 288 MIZRAK anti Tank missiles, each capable of destroying a Tank



Turkey’s extensive deployment of Armed Drones in its fight against Syrian Regime Forces in Idlib province has put forward a "new military doctrine" in the world

AKINCI UCAV

Payload : 1350 kg
Max speed : 360 km/h
Combat Range : 2.000+ km
Endurance : 24 hours
Service ceiling : 40.000 feet

-- AESA Radar
-- SATCOM
-- Electronic Data Gathering ( ELINT / COMINT )
-- 6 multi-core Artificial Intelligence Computers

-- 74/110 km KUZGUN joint strike Bomb with IIR seeker
-- 8 km MIZRAK anti Tank Missile with top attack capability
-- 25 km BOZDOGAN air to air Missile
-- 65 km GOKDOGAN air to air Missile

İndian Army/Airforce AH-64D/E APACHE

Max speed : 293 km/h
Combat Range : 480 km
Endurance : 4 hours
Service ceiling : 20.000 feet

AN/APG-78 Longbow fire-control Radar

-- APKWS 70 mm Rockets
-- 8 km HELLFIRE air to surface Missile
-- 8 km AIM-92 Stinger air to air Missile

 

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better option as like tiny Burraq ?

you have nothing which is similar to Turkish AKINCI

good luck with low quality Chinese Weapons

Wingloon2 is currently inducting in our army

 

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Wingloon2 is currently inducting in our army

Wingloong2 is a toy to compare with AKINCI

even Chinese Wingloong2 has no good operation capability in high altitude , because of low quality E/O Systems

 

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Wingloong2 is a toy to compare with AKINCI

even Chinese Wingloong2 has no good operation capability in high altitude , because of low quality E/O Systems

Bigger means more prone to detect (RCS ) and hence engage by the enemy, we are satisfied from the MALE wingloon system that's why we are buying it and do tell me how do you know its has low quality E/O system??

 

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Bigger means more prone to detect (RCS ) and hence engage by the enemy, we are satisfied from the MALE wingloon system that's why we are buying it and do tell me how do you know its has low quality E/O system??

Good question. Yes, how do you know @MMM-E ?

And another question from me: Now that we can no longer buy E/O Systems from Canada, what are the advantages of our UAVs over Chinese UAVs? Since superiority depends on the E / O System, then we do not have an advantage. Until we built the superior E/O System. Am I right?

 

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Bigger means more prone to detect (RCS ) and hence engage by the enemy, we are satisfied from the MALE wingloon system that's why we are buying it and do tell me how do you know its has low quality E/O system??

AKINCI is only 1,3 meter longer than Wing Loong 2 and both has same wingspan of 20 m

but AKINCI has superior technology and capabilities


Wing Loong 2
Chinese Wing Loong 2 armed with only 10-18 km Missiles ...... nothing else
Service ceiling : 32,500 ft



AKINCI
Service ceiling: 40.000 ft
Turkish AKINCI armed with 28 km guided Bombs and soon 74-110 km KUZGUN joint strike ammunition with IIR seeker to hit even moving targets

also 100-150 km MRASHM and 275 km SOM-J Cruise Missiles
also AESA Radar and 25-65 km BOZDOGAN-GOKDOGAN air to air missiles

even Electronic Data Gathering ( ELINT / COMINT ) capabilities

and 6 multi-core Artificial Intelligence Computers

AKINCI UCAV will be able to collect information by recording the data received from sensors and cameras on the UCAV through artificial intelligence computers

This artificial intelligence system can detect the angle of tilting, standing and heading of the UCAV without the need for any external sensor or GPS

It will also provide environmental awareness using geographic information and advanced artificial intelligence system will have decision making feature by processing the data it obtains


I am saying again Chinese Wing Loong 2 is a toy to compare with state of the art technology Turkish AKINCI




The UAE deployed Chinese Wingloong2 UCAVs in Libya's real battlefield zone

and The UAE changed Chinese E/O Systems with French E/O Systems for better quality to operate in high altitude

therefore Pakistan prefered superior Turkish ASELPOD targeting Pod to use it on JF-17 Fighter Jets , instead of low quality Chinese targeting Pod

NATO including Turkey is ahead of China and Russia in E/O Systems

 

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AKINCI is only 1,3 meter longer than Wing Loong 2 and both has same wingspan of 20 m

but AKINCI has superior technology and capabilities


Wing Loong 2
Chinese Wing Loong 2 armed with only 10-18 km Missiles ...... nothing else
Service ceiling : 32,500 ft



AKINCI
Service ceiling: 40.000 ft
Turkish AKINCI armed with 28 km guided Bombs and soon 74-110 km KUZGUN joint strike ammunition with IIR seeker to hit even moving targets

also 100-150 km MRASHM and 275 km SOM-J Cruise Missiles
also AESA Radar and 25-65 km BOZDOGAN-GOKDOGAN air to air missiles

even Electronic Data Gathering ( ELINT / COMINT ) capabilities

and 6 multi-core Artificial Intelligence Computers

AKINCI UCAV will be able to collect information by recording the data received from sensors and cameras on the UCAV through artificial intelligence computers

This artificial intelligence system can detect the angle of tilting, standing and heading of the UCAV without the need for any external sensor or GPS

It will also provide environmental awareness using geographic information and advanced artificial intelligence system will have decision making feature by processing the data it obtains


I am saying again Chinese Wing Loong 2 is a toy to compare with state of the art technology Turkish AKINCI




The UAE deployed Chinese Wingloong2 UCAVs in Libya's real battlefield zone

and The UAE changed Chinese E/O Systems with French E/O Systems for better quality to operate in high altitude

therefore Pakistan prefered superior Turkish ASELPOD targeting Pod to use it on JF-17 Fighter Jets , instead of low quality Chinese targeting Pod

NATO including Turkey is ahead of China and Russia in E/O Systems

are you have a comprehension issues?, you, don't know about other Turkish members here and Indian members are the same blind hyper nationalist they are HYPERPOWER OF THE UNIVERSE, i am ending this debate to you, because you do nothing about military technology and tactics that's HOW ITS WORKS, you always have a childish posts