Akinci & Aksungur and Turkish Unmanned Fighter Aircraft Program

[universal soldier]

Can we assume that "satcom" will be standard equipment for Anka 2?

Also, has anyone heard anything new regarding the dedicated military communications satellite project?

ANKA 2 is a long range uav , satcom will be standard

 

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ANKA 2 is a long range uav , satcom will be standard

UAVs as a standard due to their loitering times are 'long ranged'. Anka-II is being designed for more payload, hence project name 'Yüksek Faydalı Yük Kapasiteli (YFYK) İnsansız Hava Aracı'

 

[universal soldier]

UAVs as a standard due to their loitering times are 'long ranged'. Anka-II is being designed for more payload, hence project name 'Yüksek Faydalı Yük Kapasiteli (YFYK) İnsansız Hava Aracı'

You are right , having ANKA 2 with much heavy payload would make him a better platform for long range operations

ANKA 2 would be great maritime UAV

 

[Pax Ottomana]

pd170 can still generate 140 hp at 30000 feed . this is very good.

It's not just a matter of engine performance drop. The air gets thinner as you go higher and the wings don't generate as much lift as well. This means we can't carry max payload for altitudes over 25000 feet, especially if we want to carry a lot of fuel for a long-endurance mission.

25000 is about 7600 meters. For example Hakkari's "rakim" is 1720 meters. That's the city center. Terrorists are often higher up on the mountains so we can assume them to be operating at around 3000 meters on average. 7600-3000 = 4600 meters maximum above ground level. Since we don't usually push our UAVs to operate at their flight ceiling in order to reduce strain and increase fuel economy, that distance is more likely 3000 meters tops, probably lower as IR/optic sensors cannot resolve very well past 2000-2500 meters.

Here's the bad news. Stinger's range is 8 km (effective 4000 meters). Igla's range is 6 km (effective 3000 meters). And I fear they will supply lots of both to YPG/PKK.

 

[Mr.Department]

RBS 70 NG is a NATO ordered SHORAD and has range of engaging 8km and at 5000 m height. Thats almost. 17000 feet.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/swe...data_sheet_specifications_pictures_video.html

 

[Pax Ottomana]

We need to make Flares standard counter-measures equipment on all our MALE and above weight-class UAVs for defense against most heat-seeking SHORADs.

 

[Mr.Department]

We need to make Flares standard counter-measures equipment on all our MALE and above weight-class UAVs for defense against most heat-seeking SHORADs.

Good idea. Maybe in 10 years

 

[kartal1]

We need to make Flares standard counter-measures equipment on all our MALE and above weight-class UAVs for defense against most heat-seeking SHORADs.

We must take in account the weight of all that equipment.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

We must take in account the weight of all that equipment.

Agreed. But also it doesn't need to carry as many as an AC-130 does, obviously. Even a single flare can help deflect an older Stinger or Igla. Especially given how Anka's small engine doesn't produce anywhere as much heat as a jet exhaust.

Aselsan can make half or quarter-sized Flare canisters for our smaller UAVs.

http://www.aselsan.com.tr/en-us/cap...tion-systems/countermeasure-dispensing-system

 

[Mr.Department]

Agreed. But also it doesn't need to carry as many as an AC-130 does, obviously. Even a single flare can help deflect an older Stinger or Igla. Especially given how Anka's small engine doesn't produce anywhere as much heat as a jet exhaust.

Aselsan can make half or quarter-sized Flare canisters for our smaller UAVs.

http://www.aselsan.com.tr/en-us/cap...tion-systems/countermeasure-dispensing-system

But, always the "but". Sensor package weight and integration.
Is the TB-2 software compatible to Aselsan Nato certified software suites ?

 

[kartal1]

Agreed. But also it doesn't need to carry as many as an AC-130 does, obviously. Even a single flare can help deflect an older Stinger or Igla. Especially given how Anka's small engine doesn't produce anywhere as much heat as a jet exhaust.

Aselsan can make half or quarter-sized Flare canisters for our smaller UAVs.

http://www.aselsan.com.tr/en-us/cap...tion-systems/countermeasure-dispensing-system

I am not sure how the things are going to be in UAV. For sure it will not be as complicated as that below picture but again things like the weight and size of sensors, flare dispensers and other control units and compatibility must be taken on mind.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

You're right @kartal1

Flare dispensers require a number of subsystems to be on board to function as designed, which would probably be too much extra weight for too little risk management. Too heavy for tactical UAVs. Chances are we can only think about these from Anka-2 on.

 

[cabatli_53]

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Can't wait to see actual pictures of this beauty taking off!

 

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