Aircraft Carrier Admiral Gorshkov: Delhi wanted a Lada, & now demands a Mercedes

[Gabbar]

There is already a thread about the Gorskkov, please try to post anything realted to Gorshkov in this sticky thread!!!

http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/11827-indian-acquisition-gorshkov-14.html#post421879

 

[Mig-29]

@aimarraul

India has operated aircraft carrier for nearly 45 years and we are proud of the indian navy , the achievements of indian navy need not be highlighted because it is well documented, and for sure by 2015 india would have 3 carrier battle groups and a blue water navy, please post these pictures to your navy they will gain some experience as to how an aircraft carrier looks like.

 

[Mig-29]

Sorry could not help posting the comment in this thread.

 

[Gabbar]

Please dont response to trolls, ignoring them is the best remedy for thier disease.

 

[aimarraul]

india is builting the AC yourself as i know, why are you wasting money on Gorshkov?Viraat is over duty for years，how is the "50 years ago" carrier battle groups going to help,it's just expensive toys

 

[BSF]

india is builting the AC yourself as i know, why are you wasting money on Gorshkov?Viraat is over duty for years，how is the "50 years ago" carrier battle groups going to help,it's just expensive toys

I know it is hard for you, but please try not to derail each and every thread.
If you want to ask questions like this make a new one. But please ,you derailing each and every thread has been irritating.

 

[sudhir007]

The British are paying $3 billion each for 2 65k tonne carriers.

Thus far Gorskhov at 45k tonnes is going to cost india $2.2 billion.

If it rises anymore just drop the deal and go to Europe to build one afterall 2.2 billion dollars is not small change

Dear friend Ist of all British paying more 3 billion not dollar but pound.
The ship come at price of 6-8 billion dollar not $ 3B. U can check your sources whr you get the rouge information.

In Europe only 4 country use a/c
UK - 3 A/c
1. HMS Ark Royal (R07), launch in 1981. Already 29yr old. and Displacement weight 20000 tons. operate small no of a/c.
2. HMS Illustrious (R06), launch in 1978. D. Weight 22, 000 tons. 31yr old again same problem....
3. HMS Invincible (R05), launch in 1977. D. Weight 16,970 tons. 32yr old
Did u think did will suite of IN how’s ambition of Blue water navy. All already past 30 yr service and when I come it may 35yr old and too small to operate may be come at cheaper but useless
France - 1 A/c
Charles de Gaulle launch in 2001 why they sale for us????? And also it is a Nuclear-powered aircraft carrier
Spain - 1 A/c
Principe De Asturias limited capabilities. Only 17200ton.
Italy - 2 A/c
1. Giuseppe Garibaldi D. weight 14,400 tons
2. Conte di Cavour D. Weight 27000 tons. Newly built launch in 2008

Which one u thinks which suite of IN and only UK can give us old ship but it is useless. And if we ask new carrier to build but European country again take 6-8 yr and also if we have the capacity to build in home why we go for abroad.

 

[ironman]

Moin Ansari always amazes me... This is a straight lift article from pravda.ru with his own add ons.

Russia's Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier to become expensive Mercedes for Indian navy ​

Dmitry Medvedev’s visit to Russia’s Arkhangelsk Region will help solve the problem with the unfortunate Admiral Gorshkov cruiser. The history of the ship began during the times of the Soviet Union. The aircraft carrier was rusting in the White Sea for a long time after the break-up of the USSR. Now Russian ship-builders seem to be unable to remake the cruiser for the Indian Navy.

Russia’s major shipyard, Sevmash Enterprise, has been working on the ship for several years, to remake it into a mini cruiser for the Indian navy. The execution of the Indian order was pushed back from 2008 to 2012 due to the inaccurate evaluation of the production cost. Originally, the contract was evaluated at $620 million. Afterwards, India was supposed to pay $1.5 billion taking account of an additional delivery of 16 deck-based MiG-29K jets. Nowadays, the cost of the project makes up $2.5 billion.

The cruiser was delivered to Sevmash Enterprise in the city of Severodvinsk at the end of the 1990s. The command of Russia’s Pacific Navy sold two similar vessels to China and Korea in 1994 for a very low price. The Chinese quickly made an entertainment complex from the Russian mini cruiser – the vessel still brings very good money in China.

India evinced interest in the Admiral Gorshkov in the year 2000. It was agreed in 2003 that Russia would give away the cruiser to India for free, whereas India in its turns would place an order with Russia to remake the cruise into an aircraft-carrier.

It later became known that the cost of the contract was considerably underestimated – that was probably the reason why India signed it so quickly.

President Medvedev strictly ordered to complete the project for India on time. Nikolai Kalistratov, the director of Sevmash Enterprise, explained it to the president that India originally “ordered a cheap car and wanted Russia to make a Mercedes out of it.”

Medvedev’s visit showed that the Admiral Gorshkov will never stay in Russia and that it will have to become “an expensive Mercedes” for India.

Andrey Mikhailov
Severodvinsk
Pravda.Ru

 

[notsuperstitious]

^^^

hee hee hee, yes he's just added his sick mentality phrases to make it his own...