Air Forces of South China Sea claimants

[Carlosa]

You're trolling in my thread. Get lost.

Not, I'm not, the thread is about air forces in SCS and you made claims about the Taiwanese air force capabilities in SCS.

Answer the repeated questions about you backing up your claims, where is the proof of Taiwanese jets operating from Taiping island? I guess you are too immature and you are too much of a kid to admit that you were wrong right?
Well, that's expected of little kids that need to grow up.

 

[Indos]

One question , can TW fighter lock and fire at PH or Malay fighter that made in US ?? Pls note that Turkey F-16 fighter can not lock Israel fighter coz US dont let them do it.

I need to defend my Turkish brother.....

( 2011 news)

Report: Israel no longer ‘friend’ for Turkey’s F-16s, warships

Turkey's military Electronics Industry (ASELSAN) has produced a new identification friend or foe (iff) system for Turkish jet fighters, warships and submarines and the new software, contrary to the older, US-made version, does not automatically identify Israeli planes and ships as friends, a news report said on Tuesday.

The new IFF has already been installed in Turkish F-16s and is expected to be installed in all Navy ships and submarines, the report, published in Turkish daily Star, said. It will be fully operational when it is installed in all military planes, warships and submarines.

The F-16 jet fighters, purchased from the US, came with pre-installed IFF software that automatically identifies israeli fighters and warships as friends, disabling Turkish F-16s from targeting Israeli planes or ships. ASELSAN-made IFF will allow Turkish military commanders to identify friends and foes on the basis of national considerations.

Turkey was unable to make modifications to the friend or foe identification codes in US-made F-16s, while Israel was given a different version of the software allowing Israeli authorities to make modifications. Israel was also authorized to view the version given to Turkey, according to Star.

The report comes amid a severe crisis in ties with former ally Israel. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan set the stage for a possible naval confrontation with Israel in the Eastern Mediterranean, saying last week that Turkish military ships will escort civilian ships carrying aid to Gaza, under an Israeli blockade since 2007.

A news report on Monday said three frigates were to be sent to the Eastern Mediterranean to protect aid ships from a possible interception by Israeli warships. The frigates, according to the report, will get as close as 100 meter to any Israeli military ship if those ships are outside of Israeli territorial waters.

Star also suggested that the new IFF system could be linked to a series of suspicious suicides in ASELSAN. Three ASELSAN engineers committed suicide in 2006 and 2007, but the media speculated that the engineers might have been murdered given the families' testimonies that the suicides seem to come out of the blue with no warning signs. The report added that all three engineers had worked on the new IFF system to be used for F-16 fighters.

Report: Israel no longer ‘friend’ for Turkey’s F-16s, warships

 

[Viet]

Germany is an industrialized nation. German pilots have flown other planes.

Vietnam is a dirt poor nation. Vietnamese pilots are unlikely to have flown any other combat plane.

The two countries are not comparable. Your analogy fails.

just because the german pilots fly tornado and typhoon, they are trained?
and if we operate mig and sukhoi, we are untrained?

what a retard logic! spare me your rants of dirty poor nation. no, it is your logic that is dirty poor.

 

[Martian2]

One question , can TW fighter lock and fire at PH or Malay fighter that made in US ?? Pls note that Turkey F-16 fighter can not lock Israel fighter coz US dont let them do it.

Taiwan can use the French-built Mirage 2000-5s or the Taiwanese IDFs.

The Philippines has no modern fourth-generation fighters.

Malaysia only has 38 modern fighters.
18 Su-30s
8 F/A-18s
12 MiG 29s

 

[xunzi]

Show me the beef, pictures, I never heard of jets flying to Taiping, you made the claim, show me the proof or shut up.

You are the one that placed the 2 together in your head not having any clue about the impossibility of actually doing so which is how you make most claims in PDF, just stuff in your mind, more like in the mind of a 12 year old.

You are really stupid dude. LOL The distance from Taiwan to Itu Aba (Taiping Island) is 1,637km and F-16s range is update to 4,000km. So in time of war with Vietnam invasion, they sure can put a lot of aircraft to defend and defeat the Vietnamese. They outnumber Vietnamese aircraft by 3 to 1. So I say Taiwan can definitely defeat Vietnam in the air since they have better AEW&C. In the naval realm with the Vietnamese deploying submarine, it is a different story. But right now, Vietnam only have 1 kilo so it is not an easy battle for Vietnam. That you can assure. Though, everyone knows we put enormous pressure on Taiwan military, otherwise they would equip submarine a long time ago. This wouldn't even be a discussion between the Vietnam vs Taiwan.

 

[ih8viet]

You are really stupid dude. LOL The distance from Taiwan to Itu Aba (Taiping Island) is 1,637km and F-16s range is update to 4,000km. So in time of war with Vietnam invasion, they sure can put a lot of aircraft to defend and defeat the Vietnamese. They outnumber Vietnamese aircraft by 3 to 1. So I say Taiwan can definitely defeat Vietnam in the air since they have better AEW&C. In the naval realm with the Vietnamese deploying submarine, it is a different story. But right now, Vietnam only have 1 kilo so it is not an easy battle for Vietnam. That you can assure. Though, everyone knows we put enormous pressure on Taiwan military, otherwise they would equip submarine a long time ago. This wouldn't even be a discussion between the Vietnam vs Taiwan.

Correct. He really is stupid. Rather than focusing own his shit economy in Spain he'd rather spend his precious time defending these hut lovers. I'm sure Spain is proud of this boy.

 

[xunzi]

Correct. He really is stupid. Rather than focusing own his shit economy in Spain he'd rather spend his precious time defending these hut lovers. I'm sure Spain is proud of this boy.

Whenever I see his post, it reminds me of Christopher Columbus with big nose. LOL

 

[Carlosa]

You are really stupid dude. LOL The distance from Taiwan to Itu Aba (Taiping Island) is 1,637km and F-16s range is update to 4,000km. So in time of war with Vietnam invasion, they sure can put a lot of aircraft to defend and defeat the Vietnamese. They outnumber Vietnamese aircraft by 3 to 1. So I say Taiwan can definitely defeat Vietnam in the air since they have better AEW&C. In the naval realm with the Vietnamese deploying submarine, it is a different story. But right now, Vietnam only have 1 kilo so it is not an easy battle for Vietnam. That you can assure. Though, everyone knows we put enormous pressure on Taiwan military, otherwise they would equip submarine a long time ago. This wouldn't even be a discussion between the Vietnam vs Taiwan.

Another Martian 2 that doesn't know what he is talking about. You guys talk about military things but don't bother to even learn the basics. I really thought that you were smarter than this man.

Range is not the issue, combat radius range is.
Range is just going from point A to point B without having to come back, I don't think you want the Taiwanese jets to ditch in SCS.
That 4000 km range is the maximum without weapons, this has nothing to do with our discussion.

The F-16s flying from Taiwan don't have enough combat radius range to reach SCS.
Here are the real numbers:

• Combat radius: 340 mi (295 nmi, 550 km) on a hi-lo-hi mission with four 1,000 lb (450 kg) bombs

General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Correct. He really is stupid. Rather than focusing own his shit economy in Spain he'd rather spend his precious time defending these hut lovers. I'm sure Spain is proud of this boy.

@xunzi Who is really stupid now?

Did you read the real numbers about range?

God, you guys are really retard to the max.

This wouldn't even be a discussion between the Vietnam vs Taiwan.

Sure, wouldn't even be a discussion because Taiwanese air force can't even reach SCS. Period.

 

[xunzi]

Another Martian 2 that doesn't know what he is talking about. You guys talk about military things but don't bother to even learn the basics. I really thought that you were smarter than this man.

Range is not the issue, combat radius range is.
Range is just going from point A to point B without having to come back, I don't think you want the Taiwanese jets to ditch in SCS.
That 4000 km range is the maximum without weapons, this has nothing to do with our discussion.

The F-16s flying from Taiwan don't have enough combat radius range to reach SCS.
Here are the real numbers:

• Combat radius: 340 mi (295 nmi, 550 km) on a hi-lo-hi mission with four 1,000 lb (450 kg) bombs

General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



@xunzi Who is really stupid now?

Did you read the real numbers about range?

God, you guys are really retard to the max.

What exactly is your point? That Taiwan cannot fly to Taiping, land, re-fuel and engage Vietnam aircraft in its vicinity? How about proving Vietnamese pilots can fly Su-30 first and landing on SCS?

Does Vietnam have the capability to refuel in the air like Taiwan does?

 

[Carlosa]

Based on your logic Carlosa nothing can be more stupid than you. A Vato from Spain defending hut lovers in SEAsia. Is white not right? My God...

Stick to topic, show me how I'm wrong about the range.

 

[Carlosa]

What exactly is your point? That Taiwan cannot fly to Taiping, land, re-fuel and engage Vietnam aircraft in its vicinity? How about proving Vietnamese pilots can fly Su-30 first and landing on SCS?

Again with wrong assumptions.
First the foolish point about 4000 km range.
Now Taiping as an air force base when is not set up as such and there is no plans for that.

I'll ask you again same as martian 2, show me any proof of Taiwanese jets operating from Taiping or planning to do that (in the case that that airfield were to be set up for that, which would only be in a future case).

 

[William Hung]

Another Martian 2 that doesn't know what he is talking about. You guys talk about military things but don't bother to even learn the basics. I really thought that you were smarter than this man.

Range is not the issue, combat radius range is.
Range is just going from point A to point B without having to come back, I don't think you want the Taiwanese jets to ditch in SCS.
That 4000 km range is the maximum without weapons, this has nothing to do with our discussion.

The F-16s flying from Taiwan don't have enough combat radius range to reach SCS.
Here are the real numbers:

• Combat radius: 340 mi (295 nmi, 550 km) on a hi-lo-hi mission with four 1,000 lb (450 kg) bombs

General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



@xunzi Who is really stupid now?

Did you read the real numbers about range?

God, you guys are really retard to the max.

And I believe the RoC airforce currently does not operate any tankers for mid-air refuel. So perhaps they want these F-16s to go on a one way kamikaze mission. These guys open their mouths before they think.

I wish there are real PLA or ex-PLA personnel willing to join PDF to give their inputs instead of these keyboard warriors. But I guess the real PLA might be too embarrassed of these keyboard warriors (that doesn't even live in the PRC).

 

[xunzi]

Again with wrong assumptions.
First the foolish point about 4000 km range.
Now Taiping as an air force base when is not set up as such and there is no plans for that.

I'll ask you again same as martian 2, show me any proof of Taiwanese jets operating from Taiping or planning to do that (in the case that that airfield were to be set up for that, which would only be in a future case).

This is a C-130 plane taking off in Taiping Island airport.

台湾驻太平岛守军将于4月进行实弹射击演练_军事频道_央视网

If this doesn't shut you up, I don't know what is. LOL

 

[Carlosa]

There's nothing to backup. I'm just sick of your stupidity defending these hut lovers when you should be worrying about your shiet economy back home. Need a life??

You don't rebut my points, not even once, so the stupid one is you, otherwise prove my stupidity is you have enough brains for that.

This is a C-130 plane taking off in Taiping Island airport.

台湾驻太平岛守军将于4月进行实弹射击演练_军事频道_央视网

Came on, I already said earlier that Taiping is set up just for C-130s, no man, we are talking about fighter jets here, show me some.

 

[xunzi]

Came on, I already said earlier that Taiping is set up just for C-130s, no man, we are talking about fighter jets here, show me some.

So a C-130, a larger aircraft, can land and take off on Taiping airport but not F-16s? Is that what you are trying to say? LOL Listen, in peace time, they will not need to put F-16s on Taiping consider they have to put all their aircraft to face the PLAAF. So you have to understand their sensitivities here. As far as re-fueling, C-130 can be equipped with refueling if the US gives it a go. The pilots have training for refueling. Right now, it is just our pressure that block any attempt to gain offensive capability. But for defensive purpose, anything is a go for them.