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The state is doing right if it enforce them to declare themselves as non _Muslims...cuz they are non Muslims period unless they declare Mirza Ghulam Qadyani as Kafir or Murtid and declare themselves that they do not believe in his false teachings . Then they are welcome most happily to be Muslims.
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Mirza Ghulam Qadyaani was Kafir (Murtid) and his followers are Kafirs ..no question about it ..Unless they do Taubah..and revert back to siraate-i-mustaqeem...accept Islam .
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no he is not kafir. He is a true prophet. Ahmadis are muslims just as sunnis are or shias are. they believe in allah . thats all the quran says.
certainly a profitprophet. one of its kind too.
why do you abuse th eprophets of your own religion. as long as ahmedis believe in allah they are muslims. conversely they can also say that sunnis are not muslims because of the exact converse reason. so its a matter of interpretation.
This is not a theological debate.believe in allah makes anyone Monotheist not moslim. and i dont believe in prophets neither i was disrespecting anyone.
What you think of the Ahmadi faith, whether they are Muslim or not, has no business here, since we don't encourage theological discussions.
The subject of the discussion is simple - whether the State of Pakistan, or any State, is justified in discriminating against and imposing restrictions upon another community. Arguments in favor and against this position have been posted, and there is so far no rational, logical or moral argument posted that justifies the State discrimination against Ahmadis.
The only thing proponents of this discrimination offer to justify their position is that 'it is their belief that Ahmadi's are non-Muslims'. What you believe or don't believe is your business - don't impose it on others by legalizing open discrimination and restrictions on a community with whose faith you disagree. That is reprehensible and Pakistani laws against Ahmadis are reprehensible.
Secondly, we take a very, very dim view of people insulting religions and religious figures. The Muslims on this board would be ranting and raving if someone called Mohammed a 'profitProphet', and we would not tolerate such flaming. We therefore expect that Muslims will maintain civility and standards of decency and not insult other faiths and the religious figures of other faiths, including Ahmadis. If you cannot show decency, civility and respect, then you have no business posting here and will be banned.