Ahmadi doctor killed in Chenab Nagar

[JayAtl]

Please provide a link for that ludicrous claim. Or apologize for lying.

he did , it was this one pissed off fella that said it... with NO evidence to back his claim, I may add..

Govt behind Parliament attack, 26/11: Ishrat probe officer - The Times of India

 

[janon]

he did , it was this one pissed off fella that said it... with NO evidence to back his claim, I may add..

Govt behind Parliament attack, 26/11: Ishrat probe officer - The Times of India

He said that the CBI admitted it - that's very different from some disgruntled fellow saying some nonsense.

 

[JayAtl]

He said that the CBI admitted it - that's very different from some disgruntled fellow saying some nonsense.

the guy was a part of some CBI team

BUT per the article the guy did not even know such a claim was made against him

it is a he said he said thing...

regardless folks @Abu Nasar never actually read the article to find out what was said... he needed some obscure claim to fit his perception and conspiracies, so abu latched on to it.

 

[Secret Service]

i dont know why Defence.pk facebook page giving this news extra coverage...

Timeline Photos - Pakistan Defence | Facebook

 

[FalconsForPeace]

i dont know why Defence.pk facebook page giving this news extra coverage...

Timeline Photos - Pakistan Defence | Facebook

This jahalat must be stopped, the more exposure it gets the better!

 

[JonAsad]

Really really sad incident-

 

[Jaanbaz]

Just found about this on PDF now. May Allah rest his soul in pace and give his family strength. Ameen.

So he was a doctor at Tahir Heart Institute which is one of most advanced institute in the region. They killed someone who saves peoples lives. Tahir Heart Institute is not only for Ahmadis, its open for all Pakistanis and many poor people from surrounding areas receive treatment from there.

So how can any idiot justify this by killing someone who was serving humanity will go to heaven?

 

[SyedF]

Just found about this on PDF now. May Allah rest his soul in pace and give his family strength. Ameen.

So he was a doctor at Tahir Heart Institute which is one of most advanced institute in the region. They killed someone who saves peoples lives. Tahir Heart Institute is not only for Ahmadis, its open for all Pakistanis and many poor people from surrounding areas receive treatment from there.

So how can any idiot justify this by killing someone who was serving humanity will go to heaven?

Idiots can justify anything!

 

[Capt.Popeye]

This is seriously stupid! I mean why the hell do people care and up to the point of being near a grave yard waiting for people to come and shoot them based on their faith! How stupid can one get?!

Seriously there should be a major scale un-brainwashing people to stop such stupidity!

Lofty thoughts and great intentions there but is it possible to un-brainwash people now?
Even the grey cells in those brains have got tainted and contaminated, it runs so deep. And what is worse is that the Official stance is even seen to be condoning such violence and mayhem; though it does not explicitly do so.

The rot has set in so deep that the predators on the Ahmadi Community now consider it an 'article of faith' to harry and hunt down the Ahmadis. What can you do in the face of such strongly held beliefs?
Ditto for the asinine ideas surrounding the 'perceptions' of blasphemy. Such a nebulous idea that "blasphemy" is in the first place.

Walking down the Religious/Sectarian route is extremely dangerous for any State. That has been demonstrated conclusively time and again as well as in this brutal murder.

RIP Dr.Mehdi Ali.
Will the country of your birth understand the injustice done to you. And all because of the sheer accident of your birth somewhere in this world!

 

[Cherokee]

Just found about this on PDF now. May Allah rest his soul in pace and give his family strength. Ameen.

So he was a doctor at Tahir Heart Institute which is one of most advanced institute in the region. They killed someone who saves peoples lives. Tahir Heart Institute is not only for Ahmadis, its open for all Pakistanis and many poor people from surrounding areas receive treatment from there.

So how can any idiot justify this by killing someone who was serving humanity will go to heaven?

He was Assistant Professor of Cardiology at Ohio University . He Came to Pakistan for a brief visit to give back to his society . Sadly , that did not end well .

 

[Dubious]

Lofty thoughts and great intentions there but is it possible to un-brainwash people now?
Even the grey cells in those brains have got tainted and contaminated, it runs so deep. And what is worse is that the Official stance is even seen to be condoning such violence and mayhem; though it does not explicitly do so.

The rot has set in so deep that the predators on the Ahmadi Community now consider it an 'article of faith' to harry and hunt down the Ahmadis. What can you do in the face of such strongly held beliefs?
Ditto for the asinine ideas surrounding the 'perceptions' of blasphemy. Such a nebulous idea that "blasphemy" is in the first place.

Walking down the Religious/Sectarian route is extremely dangerous for any State. That has been demonstrated conclusively time and again as well as in this brutal murder.

RIP Dr.Mehdi Ali.
Will the country of your birth understand the injustice done to you. And all because of the sheer accident of your birth somewhere in this world!

We have a sort of saying....kill the leader everything falls...I am only after bearded baffoons who failed the nation (they were supposed to teach the nation and give fatwahs or getting vaccination and stuff like that ---that which is good for the country) so they should be beheaded seriously, each one of them! I cant tolerate jahalat it has reached a disgusting stage!

Once useless assholes like those are unrooted then any uprising followed can be dealt with and after a while everyone will settle down....

I have repeatedly stated on this forum that people need to monitor what goes in a masjid.....

 

[Capt.Popeye]

We have a sort of saying....kill the leader everything falls...I am only after bearded baffoons who failed the nation (they were supposed to teach the nation and give fatwahs or getting vaccination and stuff like that ---that which is good for the country) so they should be beheaded seriously, each one of them! I cant tolerate jahalat it has reached a disgusting stage!

Once useless assholes like those are unrooted then any uprising followed can be dealt with and after a while everyone will settle down....

I have repeatedly stated on this forum that people need to monitor what goes in a masjid.....

You really do mean well, and I appreciate you for that.

But this specific issue is not solvable by dealing with any particular Leader/s. There are too many Leaders involved and the problem runs even deeper within the followers who are even willing to act (even autonomously) as Leaders themselves, because as I said earlier they think that now it is an "article of faith" and blessed by their religious doctrine (since so many Mullas say so) and worse of all, even (seemingly) sanctioned by the "Law of the Land".......considering that the State has reacted in such a insipid fashion on so many occasions through all the years.

So how do you deal with that?

 

[Dubious]

You really do mean well, and I appreciate you for that.

But this specific issue is not solvable by dealing with any particular Leader/s. There are too many Leaders involved and the problem runs even deeper within the followers who are even willing to act (even autonomously) as Leaders themselves, because as I said earlier they think that now it is an "article of faith" and blessed by their religious doctrine (since so many Mullas say so) and worse of all, even (seemingly) sanctioned by the "Law of the Land".......considering that the State has reacted in such a insipid fashion on so many occasions through all the years.

So how do you deal with that?

Well, it is true we have some crazy people with characters which you have described...But those who scream this crap the most are usually who have the least knowledge and / or have come from a background of peer or Mullah and hence telling the Public that they dont know the basics is embarrassing so they preach anything which suits them (such people are for sale and preach based on who pays)...However the majority who are following this mindset are doing so coz no one showed them a different way...and can be "un-brainwashed" however, who will tell you which is which or whom to approach is tough! Esp since most live in the rural and only obey orders from the major leaders and are barely capable of joining 2 ideas together!

1st step has always been educating...Sadly our politicians think by educating these people, there will be no one to pay and dance to their tunes...or approve their crap "under the name of Islam" or justifying their own brutality

However now the 1st step is to kill such Mullah leaders followed by educating masses and hopefully, half will just shut up when their leader is pacified!

Then comes what is known as reteaching...teaching what the religious scriptures really said...That might bring some peace in remaining....If only the politicians spent on the people as much as they spent for their 1 meal alone!!

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Well, it is true we have some crazy people with characters which you have described...But those who scream this crap the most are usually who have the least knowledge and / or have come from a background of peer or Mullah and hence telling the Public that they dont know the basics is embarrassing so they preach anything which suits them (such people are for sale and preach based on who pays)...However the majority who are following this mindset are doing so coz no one showed them a different way...and can be "un-brainwashed" however, who will tell you which is which or whom to approach is tough! Esp since most live in the rural and only obey orders from the major leaders and are barely capable of joining 2 ideas together!

1st step has always been educating...Sadly our politicians think by educating these people, there will be no one to pay and dance to their tunes...or approve their crap "under the name of Islam" or justifying their own brutality

However now the 1st step is to kill such Mullah leaders followed by educating masses and hopefully, half will just shut up when their leader is pacified!

Then comes what is known as reteaching...teaching what the religious scriptures really said...That might bring some peace in remaining....If only the politicians spent on the people as much as they spent for their 1 meal alone!!

All of that you suggest will work................but only upto a point.

What about the role of the State?
In dealing with the most proximate and primary issue: that People are getting MURDERED !!!!!
The State can't teach the Scriptures; but only "regulate the process" I.E. who teaches and what is being taught; only as far that, maybe.

But as far as the Murdering Business is concerned: the State has to act, and act decisively and absolutely ruthlessly.
Has it even shown signs of doing that?
Ever?

 

[Marshmallow]

Ahmadi doctor killed in Chenab Nagar
By Rana Tanveer
Published: May 26, 2014

Dr Medhi Ali. PHOTO: JAMAAT-E-AHMADIYYA

CHENAB NAGAR: A member of the Jamaat-e-Ahmadiyya was shot dead in Chenab Nagar on Monday allegedly because of his faith.

Cardiac surgeon Dr Mehdi Ali was on his was way back from a graveyard when two men on a motorbike opened fire. He was shot 11 times, a spokesperson for the Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Rabwah told The Express Tribune.

The 50-year-old US national was visiting Pakistan for research work at Tahrir Cardiac Hospital, Rabwah along with his family.

The attackers managed to flee the scene of the crime. Ali’s body was taken to a nearby hospital. No FIR was registered till the filing of this report.

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This is madness..... it really hurts to read news like this ... what one gets after killing innocent people of diff faith is beyond my thinking.... i dunno when will we learn to coexist in peace with others... sad incident ..... these scum bags are bringing bad name

such young death......disgusting people who killed the poor soul!.... RIP...