After the Karachi attacks....

[Infinity]

Actually the root cause of Pakistan as its Today is due to Religion...................Religion should be kept out of Politics,Army and Science(education)............I read about Pakistan which was much more Liberal and Progressive during 70's and upto 80's...........................

 

[chhota bheem]

For who dont belive India is behind the terrorist attacks in Pakistan.

There are many reasons for the situation in Pakistan the way it is.

1)It might have started from independence,when Pakistan was created in the name of religion and soon after the creation ,without waitng wanted to create an islamic block and become an important player.(there is nothing wrong in it).
2)Went and joined the western block(mistake) again no one could have predicted the out come.

3)when russia occupied Afg and US came in along with KSA,Pakistan sees an opportunity to become a big player(here the problems start)
4)for fighting this war you need recruts and rulers turn to religion ,and slowly brian washing the citizens(thats the time most madrassas came up).(big mistake,no one uses its own people as its proxies and train them inside your own country to fight someone's else war)
5)after USSR left Afg,Pakistan feels great and that it defeated a super power and feels its can do the same in Kashmir and diverts some recruts there,(good strategy),in the mean while CIA KSA left AFG without any responsibilty leaving Pakistan,sad part Paksitan cannt go any where.
6)In afg all the recruts where having a power strugle for years and Pakistan wants a proxy power in AFG ,creates Taliban(biggest mistake)

There are some many things to undo.but i realy wish Pakistan does that and becomes a sucessful nation,all the best.

 

[Hiptullha]

Rao Anwar is mentioned in this letter - so whoever is involved is hurt with Rao Anwar's actions.

But I find this person perfectly sane and willing to eliminate terrorism from the country. He is the one who named RAW and its connections with MQM terrorists.

Bro , this whole drama created by Mqm first they kill somone and do wall chalking and throw some invitation paper of IS , to change the operation side which is going great , against MQM criminals .

Sorry, no proof that MQM or RAW were involved.
Even investigators saying there is great chance there is an IS link.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1182280/investigators-suspect-is-hand-in-safoora-goth-carnage

Actually the root cause of Pakistan as its Today is due to Religion...................Religion should be kept out of Politics,Army and Science(education)............I read about Pakistan which was much more Liberal and Progressive during 70's and upto 80's...........................

No, sorry, you do not know anything. Pakistan had problems in '70s too, but you do not know of them because you only focus on Pakistan's so-called "liberalism (AKA nightclubs, lots of alcohol, westerners appearing) and ignore poverty, power-plays, ethnic and separatist terrorism in country,

 

[Sine Nomine]

There is no ISIS thing outside syria and Iraq and no al-qaeda in world.

 

[Hiptullha]

For who dont belive India is behind the terrorist attacks in Pakistan.

There are many reasons for the situation in Pakistan the way it is.

1)It might have started from independence,when Pakistan was created in the name of religion and soon after the creation ,without waitng wanted to create an islamic block and become an important player.(there is nothing wrong in it).
2)Went and joined the western block(mistake) again no one could have predicted the out come.

3)when russia occupied Afg and US came in along with KSA,Pakistan sees an opportunity to become a big player(here the problems start)
4)for fighting this war you need recruts and rulers turn to religion ,and slowly brian washing the citizens(thats the time most madrassas came up).(big mistake,no one uses its own people as its proxies and train them inside your own country to fight someone's else war)
5)after USSR left Afg,Pakistan feels great and that it defeated a super power and feels its can do the same in Kashmir and diverts some recruts there,(good strategy),in the mean while CIA KSA left AFG without any responsibilty leaving Pakistan,sad part Paksitan cannt go any where.
6)In afg all the recruts where having a power strugle for years and Pakistan wants a proxy power in AFG ,creates Taliban(biggest mistake)

There are some many things to undo.but i realy wish Pakistan does that and becomes a sucessful nation,all the best.

You forget 1971 when India and Soviet Union together conspired to dismember Pakistan and thus Pakistan had to become more aggressive in foreign policy to prevent the Afghans (who were also working with Soviets) to tear KPK out of Pakistan.

 

[HariPrasad]

Thanks and we don't have occasional yoga classes only . We are normal happy people like any other who would enjoy morning walk, jogging, gym, cricket, snooker etc etc

Yes. But this happiness should reach the affected areas such as Baluchistan also and they should also be as happy as those people you are talking about.

 

[Hiptullha]

There is no ISIS thing outside syria and Iraq and no al-qaeda in world.

No, this is false. Already, IS fanatics are appearing in Europe, North Africa and Afghanistan. And like it or not, Al-Qaeda had been the big-daddy of all Islamist movements from the last 2 decades (before IS arrived).

 

[I.R.A]

Who else could it be? Which groups have been massacring Shias for the last few years? It might not be IS, but it's definitely a group inspired by IS.

That seriously needs to be determined, I think there are many who would surely like to avail benefit of the chaos and a confused situation. It is a very complex and sensitive matter, innocent people got killed and perpetrators of this heinous act as usual escaped the scene conveniently. It seems like if this time we won't get to the culprits and show them to Public in open, this confusion and mistrust would surely strengthen what IS or any sectarian outfit or other player want to happen in Pakistan.

It looks dubious to me because a barbaric organisation that spreads its propaganda through videos of each and every crime they commit, won't rely on a pamphlet for their propaganda. And remember many criminals enjoyed threatening people just simply using TTP's name. I am not saying that sympathizers of IS are not there but means of this propaganda does not fit in with their style.

 

[Sine Nomine]

No, this is false. Already, IS fanatics are appearing in Europe, North Africa and Afghanistan. And like it or not, Al-Qaeda had been the big-daddy of all Islamist movements from the last 2 decades (before IS arrived).

I think it's not worth arguing we accepted TTP call when they said we attacked Mehran Airbase,we know who is getting pain in back from stuff present on that base.Of course they are religious fanatics but they are being used and we need to take out both user and tool.

 

[I.R.A]

Yes. But this happiness should reach the affected areas such as Baluchistan also and they should also be as happy as those people you are talking about.

By the way my personal observation is (based on my interaction with my remote family members in Balochistan) you won't get bored in company of a Balochi from Quetta for instance. Sure problems are there people have been ignored for too long, in some cases victims of brutal mass killings of their loved ones, they have been deprived of basic facilities in some case, but still they are patriotic and loving. And yes we need to work on spreading happiness and making their lives comfortable on a fast track now, they have suffered for too long which should end now.

 

[Hiptullha]

This came in the news.
IS seizes govt HQ of Iraqi provincial capital - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

Clock is ticking....will Pakistan sit back and watch?
It seems things are playing out just like in Afghanistan. Anyone remember huge losses of Taliban against Najibullah government and Northern Alliance? Eventually, they won. Same thing happening here.

 

[HariPrasad]

By the way my personal observation is (based on my interaction with my remote family members in Balochistan) you won't bored in company of a Balochi from Quetta. Sure problems are there people have been ignored for too long, in some cases victims of brutal mass killings of their loved ones, they have been deprived of basic facilities in some case, but still they are patriotic and loving. And yes we need to work on spreading happiness and making their lives comfortable on a fast track now, they have suffered for too long which should end now.

Yes agreed.

 

[Hiptullha]

That seriously needs to be determined, I think there are many who would surely like to avail benefit of the chaos and a confused situation. It is a very complex and sensitive matter, innocent people got killed and perpetrators of this heinous act as usual escaped the scene conveniently. It seems like if this time we won't get to the culprits and show them to Public in open, this confusion and mistrust would surely strengthen what IS or any sectarian outfit or other player want to happen in Pakistan.

It looks dubious to me because a barbaric organisation that spreads its propaganda through videos of each and every crime they commit, won't rely on a pamphlet for their propaganda. And remember many criminals enjoyed threatening people just simply using TTP's name. I am not saying that sympathizers of IS are not there but means of this propaganda does not fit in with their style.

There are doubts, but unless there is definite proof that some organisation which doesn't have the same sectarian agenda as IS or Taliban is involved, then there is no point pointing fingers at invisible enemies.
Some people say it's RAW. Does that change anything? Were the Mujahideen pro-US when the US was arming them? No, they had their own agenda which was to create Islamic State. Same with the alleged RAW-hired gunmen. They are not pro-India, they are anti-Shia and anti-Pakistan.

 

[FunkyGen]

Rao Anwar may be the shittiest guy on Earth but if he's a butthurt to these shumks than he's my hero!

 

[I.R.A]

There are doubts, but unless there is definite proof that some organisation which doesn't have the same sectarian agenda as IS or Taliban is involved, then there is no point pointing fingers at invisible enemies.
Some people say it's RAW. Does that change anything? Were the Mujahideen pro-US when the US was arming them? No, they had their own agenda which was to create Islamic State. Same with the alleged RAW-hired gunmen. They are not pro-India, they are anti-Shia and anti-Pakistan.

My only hope is that capable people are taking care of undoing overcoming this mess. It is a complex situation full of Siyasi Maslehatain and shit. I once accidentally went inside a Sipah E Sahaba mosque for Juma prayers and believe me what I heard and saw was too much for me to handle, on top of that an Agh Khani friend of mine was waiting outside the mosque for me, I had left him there to wait for me (may nay namaz kya parhni thi mujay uss ki fiker lagi hui thi kay kahi kuch keh he na day kissi say apny bary may).

I would say TTP is a criminal organisation rather than a religious one, it does not have any agenda except money making, every mochi, barber, charsi, bus conductor is a commander in their ranks. Sale of suicide bombers, kidnapping, bhata khori and foreign funding to do others work is more of what they are interested in. There are many stories of how people were deceived into fighting a Jihad with US and Nato in Afghanistan and how they ended up attacking Pakistani posts. Same goes for sectarian outfits, brainwash people use them, become powerful, threatening and live a comfortable life.

Information needs to be made public, there should not be anything secret (except for utmost national security) from people who are getting killed. Namaloom afrad is no more an acceptable excuse.