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LOL, it also includes Pakistan. So if there are 500 in total, it can only mean 'less than 500 in Pakistan'. So if we assume that rest of the Islamic world combined has 1 university !!
Then Pakistan has 499 universities, compared to more than 8000 in India. And yes, dont bring the argument of, "India has more population", because the ratio of pop is 1:7, while ratio of univ is way more than 1:16. Who do you think got its prioritize right ?
Now i am not going to count the number of univ in Pakistan, so i have given you the entire 499. Is that enough ?
Then Pakistan has 499 universities, compared to more than 8000 in India. And yes, dont bring the argument of, "India has more population", because the ratio of pop is 1:7, while ratio of univ is way more than 1:16. Who do you think got its prioritize right ?
Now i am not going to count the number of univ in Pakistan, so i have given you the entire 499. Is that enough ?
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8900 are not just universities.
Sorry to burst ur bubble but India only have 237 universities. http://www.exam-results.com/
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Yes, obviously that means less than 500 in Pakistan. But we don't need 8000 universities to fulfill our country's education requirements. The UK has only 168 universities and they seem to be doing great.
http://www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/faq...ownbyEngland,Wales,ScotlandandNorthernIreland)
Pakistan has enough universities to fulfill the requirements of it's urban population. The rural folk don't even go to middle school let alone universities, so why would we need more at this point? The government has been criticized by educators for focusing too much on higher education at the expense of primary schools. If you know anything about education, you will know that primary school enrollment figures are more important than post secondary enrollment figures. Middle school and High school enrollment figures are also more important than university enrollment numbers.
India has 1/6th of the worlds people in it, don't compare it's numbers to Pakistan.
8900 are not just universities.
In case you didn't know, professional degree colleges are also clubbed in with the term 'University'. Otherwise no country in the world has more than 500 univ.
I deliberately did not include India's private colleges, of which there a few times more. That 8000 number is only the one supported by the Government of India. Otherwise by the token, that 500 number is also bogus, and would be waaaaaay less.
By the way, that 236 number is also incorrect. here:
India is a home for Education. There are over 300 Univerisities and 45,000 Colleges of various types in the country. Most of these educational institutions need a recognition by a compentent body / regulatory authority that are supported by the Government of India, State Governments or by Societies.
http://www.indiastudycenter.com/Univ/List.htm
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At least 33 people have been killed in two separate bomb attacks in Pakistan, officials say.
Twenty-six people are said to have died in the southern town of Hub, 35km (23 miles) north of Karachi, in an attack apparently targeting Chinese workers.
Initial reports said all the dead were Pakistani nationals.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6905808.stm
Twenty-six people are said to have died in the southern town of Hub, 35km (23 miles) north of Karachi, in an attack apparently targeting Chinese workers.
Initial reports said all the dead were Pakistani nationals.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6905808.stm
Anyways, we can keep harping upon the exact numbers and the exact terms used, but it will serve no purpose. What matters is if the idea was communicated or not. And i think, it was.
Conclusion being, the situation in Kashmir, is sucking the lifeblood out of Pakistan, and actually helping India. Go ahead, keep up your obsession of liberating it. Our gain, your loss.
Conclusion being, the situation in Kashmir, is sucking the lifeblood out of Pakistan, and actually helping India. Go ahead, keep up your obsession of liberating it. Our gain, your loss.
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No, it's not.
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Well if you havnt learned till now....then..???
Kashmir won't be liberated by militancy. There's many kashmiris in England (hell technically im 50% kashmiri) and alot of them who were born there are coming to the opinion that they aren't gaining nothing by militancy. To think India will give up Kashmir because a few soldiers die every year is laughable. All it does is waste Pakistan's resources and harm relations with India...
Scorpius, you said in 5 lines what i have been trying to say forever now. That Pakistan doesn't gain anything from it. If the original Pakistani plan had worked according to theory, then it might have gained something, but now its a lost cause.
Now what should actually be the fate of Kashmir, is a whole different topic, and setting my bias aside, i am ready to discuss that with you, or anyone whose interested.
Now what should actually be the fate of Kashmir, is a whole different topic, and setting my bias aside, i am ready to discuss that with you, or anyone whose interested.
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Ok so India have 300 public universities. Again i hope u understand meaning of university. Pakistan have as of 2005/06 53 public and 40private universities. Here is the official link and not just estimates.
http://www.hec.gov.pk/htmls/statistics/Number of UniversitiesDAIs in Pakistan (1947 to 2004-05).htm
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You Indians can draw up all the conclusions you want, you're only looking at it from what you've been brought up to believe.
Never in my life have I seen any proof from any Indian source of the so called infiltrators nor have I seen proof that Pakistan's military/intelligence sources provide assistance to them. Pakistan's current battle with the Taliban has nothing to do with Kashmir, and there is not an iota of likelyhood that the Taliban will prevail anyway.
India is a stable democracy, I'll give you that. I admire how Indias military does not meddle in it's politics and how the assemblies complete their terms etc.
We are behind India in terms of political maturity, there's no doubt about that.
But other than that, there is not much to worry about for Pakistan. The BLA and Taliban are being used by Musharraf to play up his importance, he wants the world to think that they are a big threat so that the world, especially the US, will continue to support him.
These people are either foreigners from Afghanistan/middle east/central asia/chechnya or they are Pakistani Pushtuns. They are far from gaining support with the average Pakistani.
The lack of angry reaction to the Lal Masjid seige proves they have no support with the masses.
Pakistan is fine and will continue to grow stronger economically and militarily no matter what Indians think.
Never in my life have I seen any proof from any Indian source of the so called infiltrators nor have I seen proof that Pakistan's military/intelligence sources provide assistance to them. Pakistan's current battle with the Taliban has nothing to do with Kashmir, and there is not an iota of likelyhood that the Taliban will prevail anyway.
India is a stable democracy, I'll give you that. I admire how Indias military does not meddle in it's politics and how the assemblies complete their terms etc.
We are behind India in terms of political maturity, there's no doubt about that.
But other than that, there is not much to worry about for Pakistan. The BLA and Taliban are being used by Musharraf to play up his importance, he wants the world to think that they are a big threat so that the world, especially the US, will continue to support him.
These people are either foreigners from Afghanistan/middle east/central asia/chechnya or they are Pakistani Pushtuns. They are far from gaining support with the average Pakistani.
The lack of angry reaction to the Lal Masjid seige proves they have no support with the masses.
Pakistan is fine and will continue to grow stronger economically and militarily no matter what Indians think.
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Bombs in Pakistan kill dozens
Attacks are latest in wave of violence since deadly Red Mosque siege
The Associated Press
Updated: 6:14 a.m. ET July 19, 2007
KARACHI, Pakistan - Suicide bombers hit a convoy of Chinese workers in southern Pakistan and a police academy in the north, killing 36 people as violence swept further across the country.
The convoy was passing though the main bazaar in Hub, a town in Baluchistan province near the port city of Karachi, when a moving car blew up next to a police vehicle, officials said.
Hub police chief Ghulam Mohammed Thaib said 29 people were killed, including seven police. About 30 other people were wounded, some critically.
“It was laden with very heavy explosives but due to our spacing and our security measures, Allah has been very kind,” Maj. Gen. Saleem Nawaz, a commander of Pakistan’s paramilitary Frontier Constabulary said.
The police “sacrificed their lives and the Chinese friends were absolutely safe,” Nawaz said on Dawn News television.
The Chinese citizens worked at a lead extraction plant in Dudhar in Baluchistan and were temporarily leaving the area for Karachi due to security concerns, police said.
Remote-controlled bomb?
Some officials suggested the bomb was remote-controlled. But Thaib and Nawaz, whose men also were guarding the minibus carrying some 10 Chinese technicians and engineers, said it was a suicide attack.
Television pictures showed how the blast ripped off the front of several roadside shops. Several damaged cars and buses lay rammed into one another among a tangle of bricks and clothing.
In the northwest, a suicide car bomber detonated his explosives when guards prevented him from entering the parade ground of the police academy in Hangu, 45 miles southwest of Peshawar.
The bomber killed six bystanders and one policeman, and another 24 people were wounded, academy chief Attaullah Wazir said.
About 270 killed this month
Suicide attacks, bombings and shootings blamed on Islamic extremists and a bloody army siege of radicals in Islamabad’s Red Mosque have killed about 270 people in Pakistan so far this month, stirring doubts about the country’s stability.
Much of the violence has been in North West Frontier Province, especially the frontier region of North Waziristan, where pro-Taliban militants last weekend declared the end of a 10-month-old peace deal.
On Wednesday, militants bombed and strafed an army convoy near Miran Shah, North Waziristan’s main town, killing 17 troops. At least eight militants died in clashes with security forces in the area.
President Gen. Pervez Musharraf insists the accord — under which the military scaled back its operations in the U.S.-led war on terror in return for pledges from tribal leaders to contain militancy — offers the best long-term hope of pacifying the region.
Intelligence analysts in Washington say the pact has given al-Qaida new opportunities to strengthen their operations in Pakistan, Afghanistan and beyond.
Pakistan said this assessment lacks substance.
“It does not help simply to make assertions about the presence or regeneration of al-Qaida in bordering areas of Pakistan. What is needed is concrete and actionable information and intelligence sharing,” the Foreign Ministry said Wednesday.
Musharraf on Wednesday urged moderate Pakistanis — many of whom are pressing him to resign and restore civilian rule — to help him take on extremists.
Adding to the tension, a suicide bomber on Tuesday killed 16 people at a rally for Pakistan’s suspended chief justice, whose legal battle with Musharraf has galvanized opposition to military rule. A verdict in the case is expected as early as Friday.
Critics accuse Musharraf of leading Pakistan toward civil war and using the crisis to shore up U.S. support for his eight-year-old military regime. There is growing concern that year-end elections will be postponed. However, Musharraf insisted Wednesday the ballot would go ahead.
The Hub attack follows the July 8 slaying of three Chinese men in a rickshaw workshop in Peshawar, which drew a protests from Beijing, a key ally of Pakistan, and a pledge from Islamabad to protect some 2,000 to 3,000 Chinese nationals here.
Officials have suggested the Peshawar attack was linked to the then-ongoing army operation against Islamabad’s Red Mosque. Troops moved in after Islamic radicals from the mosque kidnapped several Chinese women they accused of being prostitutes.
However, ethnic Baluch insurgents have been blamed for at least two past attacks on Chinese nationals.
“These anti-state elements were also involved in the previous attacks against Chinese citizens,” Baluchistan Interior Minister Mir Shoaib Nosherwani said.
China is helping build a deepwater port in Gwadar near the Iranian border that Baluch nationalists view as a symbol of the resource-rich but impoverished province’s exploitation.
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Bombs in Pakistan kill dozens
Attacks are latest in wave of violence since deadly Red Mosque siege
The Associated Press
Updated: 6:14 a.m. ET July 19, 2007
KARACHI, Pakistan - Suicide bombers hit a convoy of Chinese workers in southern Pakistan and a police academy in the north, killing 36 people as violence swept further across the country.
The convoy was passing though the main bazaar in Hub, a town in Baluchistan province near the port city of Karachi, when a moving car blew up next to a police vehicle, officials said.
Hub police chief Ghulam Mohammed Thaib said 29 people were killed, including seven police. About 30 other people were wounded, some critically.
“It was laden with very heavy explosives but due to our spacing and our security measures, Allah has been very kind,” Maj. Gen. Saleem Nawaz, a commander of Pakistan’s paramilitary Frontier Constabulary said.
The police “sacrificed their lives and the Chinese friends were absolutely safe,” Nawaz said on Dawn News television.
The Chinese citizens worked at a lead extraction plant in Dudhar in Baluchistan and were temporarily leaving the area for Karachi due to security concerns, police said.
Remote-controlled bomb?
Some officials suggested the bomb was remote-controlled. But Thaib and Nawaz, whose men also were guarding the minibus carrying some 10 Chinese technicians and engineers, said it was a suicide attack.
Television pictures showed how the blast ripped off the front of several roadside shops. Several damaged cars and buses lay rammed into one another among a tangle of bricks and clothing.
In the northwest, a suicide car bomber detonated his explosives when guards prevented him from entering the parade ground of the police academy in Hangu, 45 miles southwest of Peshawar.
The bomber killed six bystanders and one policeman, and another 24 people were wounded, academy chief Attaullah Wazir said.
About 270 killed this month
Suicide attacks, bombings and shootings blamed on Islamic extremists and a bloody army siege of radicals in Islamabad’s Red Mosque have killed about 270 people in Pakistan so far this month, stirring doubts about the country’s stability.
Much of the violence has been in North West Frontier Province, especially the frontier region of North Waziristan, where pro-Taliban militants last weekend declared the end of a 10-month-old peace deal.
On Wednesday, militants bombed and strafed an army convoy near Miran Shah, North Waziristan’s main town, killing 17 troops. At least eight militants died in clashes with security forces in the area.
President Gen. Pervez Musharraf insists the accord — under which the military scaled back its operations in the U.S.-led war on terror in return for pledges from tribal leaders to contain militancy — offers the best long-term hope of pacifying the region.
Intelligence analysts in Washington say the pact has given al-Qaida new opportunities to strengthen their operations in Pakistan, Afghanistan and beyond.
Pakistan said this assessment lacks substance.
“It does not help simply to make assertions about the presence or regeneration of al-Qaida in bordering areas of Pakistan. What is needed is concrete and actionable information and intelligence sharing,” the Foreign Ministry said Wednesday.
Musharraf on Wednesday urged moderate Pakistanis — many of whom are pressing him to resign and restore civilian rule — to help him take on extremists.
Adding to the tension, a suicide bomber on Tuesday killed 16 people at a rally for Pakistan’s suspended chief justice, whose legal battle with Musharraf has galvanized opposition to military rule. A verdict in the case is expected as early as Friday.
Critics accuse Musharraf of leading Pakistan toward civil war and using the crisis to shore up U.S. support for his eight-year-old military regime. There is growing concern that year-end elections will be postponed. However, Musharraf insisted Wednesday the ballot would go ahead.
The Hub attack follows the July 8 slaying of three Chinese men in a rickshaw workshop in Peshawar, which drew a protests from Beijing, a key ally of Pakistan, and a pledge from Islamabad to protect some 2,000 to 3,000 Chinese nationals here.
Officials have suggested the Peshawar attack was linked to the then-ongoing army operation against Islamabad’s Red Mosque. Troops moved in after Islamic radicals from the mosque kidnapped several Chinese women they accused of being prostitutes.
However, ethnic Baluch insurgents have been blamed for at least two past attacks on Chinese nationals.
“These anti-state elements were also involved in the previous attacks against Chinese citizens,” Baluchistan Interior Minister Mir Shoaib Nosherwani said.
China is helping build a deepwater port in Gwadar near the Iranian border that Baluch nationalists view as a symbol of the resource-rich but impoverished province’s exploitation.
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