Abandoning status as "Islamic Republic"

[Ussaid]

We are proud to be Islamic Republic , ye nam hamari pehchan hai,

This is a stupid thread that should go in the bin

Apparently if we are not careful, "goat bangers" would soon replace our pehchan. We are becoming a joke of a nation, and you are a beautiful example, taking pride in merely a name.

Pakistan (West Pakistan) was Muslim majority secular region with Muslim governments before islamisation and than partition.

And we need to get back to it....

 

[VelocuR]

Mentally or physically 17 years old ? I think he is much much older.

Really, I don't know. Maybe this forum is good place for him to get more knowledges and discussions here.

 

[Ussaid]

Really, I don't know. Maybe this forum is good place for him to get more knowledges and discussions here.

Actually I feel my IQ levels decreasing every time I read a post from you, Arsalan or Horus.

 

[gau8av]

Abandoning fix the thread title please

 

[Itachi]

P.S Removing it won't really affect the economical or the political situation. It would improve the social condition.

Seriously bro, just check who liked your first post and you will see that by following what your saying, we will only hurt ourselves. One thing for sure, you have the enemies(on PDF) full support on this.

 

[VelocuR]

Actually I feel my IQ levels decreasing every time I read a post from you, Arsalan or Horus.

No brother, this forum has excellent discussions, different perspectives, and right information than gossiping or propagandas. We need to be united and stand together.

Respect your opinion but not true.

 

[timetravel]

Some people think Qatar, UAE, KSA are developed.

Please rank the below countries in terms of their SCIENTIFIC CAPABILITIES in Space, Medical Sciences, Robotics, SuperComputers, Nobel Prize in Science, Best Mathematics/Scientists Produced.

India, China, Russia, US, France, Germany, UK, Taiwan, South Korea, Israel, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Italy, Brazil.

Rankings may vary for person to person, but Pakistan, KSA, UAE and Qatar would be at bottom 4 for everyone. Now that tells me how developed a country is.

 

[Ussaid]

Some people think Qatar, UAE, KSA are developed.

Please rank the below countries in terms of their SCIENTIFIC CAPABILITIES in Space, Medical Sciences, Robotics, SuperComputers, Nobel Prize in Science, Best Mathematics/Scientists Produced.

India, China, Russia, US, France, Germany, UK, Taiwan, South Korea, Israel, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Italy, Brazil.

Rankings may vary for person to person, but Pakistan, KSA, UAE and Qatar would be at bottom 4 for everyone. Now that tells me how developed a country is.

Actually Pakistan does have scientific achievements

 

[Itachi]

@Horus Doesn't it disturb you that a thread fully concerned to Pakistan, its matters and its own people's opinion/views is suddenly being filled up with Indian whose are trying to support this lunatic?

Can you issue a warning to these people to not interfere because of our internal matter?

 

[Ussaid]

Seriously bro, just check who liked your first post and you will see that by following what your saying, we will only hurt ourselves. One thing for sure, you have the enemies(on PDF) full support on this.

So you are saying that Indians on PDF are all specialists on know exactly what would hurt Pakistan and this is why they liked my post? Well, they are a secular society and they have more tanks than us.

No brother, this forum has excellent discussions, different perspectives, and right information than gossiping or propagandas. We need to be united and stand together.

Respect your opinion but not true.

Not if everyone is like you

@Horus Doesn't it disturb you that a thread fully concerned to Pakistan, its matters and its own people's opinion/views is suddenly being filled up with Indian whose are trying to support this lunatic?

Can you issue a warning to these people to not interfere because of our internal matter?

What is wrong with you, calling me a lunatic? You yourself apparently ran off to Murica so you yourself have no right to discuss here too going by your logic.

 

[timetravel]

Actually Pakistan does have scientific achievements

Every country has. But I mean relatively. This is for those who think that UAE, KSA and Qatar are very developed. For me Pakistan is more developed than UAE, KSA and Qatar for they have better scientific capabilities then these countries.

But in overall rankings the TOP Islamic countries would make bottom 4 when compared to rest of non Islamic world. For all the money KSA, UAE and Qatar have, they are nothing more then rich lazy and obese folks who eat, drink, sleep, procreate, and encourage Islamic Extremism. That's all they do in their life.

 

[Itachi]

So you are saying that Indians on PDF are all specialists on know exactly what would hurt Pakistan and this is why they liked my post? Well, they are a secular society and they have more tanks than us.

Obviosuly, they are the enemy and they really like the idea of dividing our nations beliefs.
Can't you see that clearly??

What does tanks have to do why anything??? Numbers don't matter when we have the quality. FYI, your secular state also has mad poverty, rape cases(which go mostly free) and killing of their minorities along with the occupation and killing of another lands territory and people.

Still want us to be like them?

You yourself apparently ran off to Murica so you yourself have no right to discuss here too going by your logic.

Bro, who are you to say I ran off to the US when you yourself are doing our nation a big favor by trying to divide it more??

FYI, I just came here for education, that's all. I will return and flush out people like and not like you.

 

[punit]

World's richest state in terms of Per Capita Income is Qatar and is very much a religious state. States like UAE, KSA, Brunei have state religions are not only growing and prospering but competing with the rest of the world on HDI index rather favorably. Israel has the highest PhD rate per capita in the world and is a Jewish state. Germany and UK too have no strict segregation laws and are doing just fine. The argument that secularism brings prosperity is simply bogus.

Prosperity is a product of good governance, rule of law, availability of justice, fiscal discipline, education and ability to defend the country. I can list a number of secular states which have totally failed or even worse collapsed, one of them was USSR.

Qatar, UAE, KSA etc are not at the top because of any significant development or industry. They just have lo of Oil.

 

[Itachi]

But in overall rankings the TOP Islamic countries would make bottom 4 when compared to rest of non Islamic world.

Half of these "non-Muslim" countries are helping in the killing of millions. We don't care about the rankings, we just care about the people within our territories. And believe me, your bottom 4 Islamic countries are doing very good in maintaining a very healthy and rich environment for their own people, for, isn't that what every country should inspire about?? And not just "scientific capabilities"?

 

[RescueRanger]

Maybe it is time to abandon our status as the "Islamic" "Republic" of Pakistan, and return to our secular roots which were planned by the fathers of the nation. Pakistan was created because Jinnah and co were afraid that in a Hindu dominated Country, there would always be episodes of violence and disagreement between the two chief religions, as Muslims of India had grown to become an almost different culture. Thus Pakistan was created so that the Muslims and Hindus can live in peace alone. Pakistan was created because the Muslim League felt the new "Hindus"tan would not be secular enough, not because it wouldn't be "Islamic" enough. Do we want to end up like the Middle East?

Also, it is embarrassing how many people believe in ridiculously stupid Jewish conspiracy theories, and hate Jews so much without having ever having seen one in their entire lives. Can a mature, mentally healthy human being actually believe such far fetched stories? Is this the result of one or two generations of cousin-cousin breeding? The reality is every year hundreds, if not thousands of non-Muslims are persecuted and harassed all along the country, but our sympathies are only for Palestine and non-existent dead Muslims in Burma and India. Isn't it ridiculous how people in Pakistan want women to "cover" themselves up, yet Google confirms the most number of pornographic searches are from Pakistan. Google also confirms that South Asia ranks the highest in bestiality searches.

Now people are going to be blame me for having such a negative view of my home country, but I am telling the truth, and even if the truth is not something that was told to us through biased text books. Media doesn't report such incidents because they are more focused on who Imran Khan wants to sleep with, and they don't have time for a family of murdered Ahmaids, Shias, Chrisitans, Hindus, etc. But of course it is all Mossad's, RAW's and CIA's fault, because they have so much time and resources to waste on us. (Well, RAW is an exception I guess. They all have the time in the world for their little Eastern Sibling)


P.S Removing it won't really affect the economical or the political situation. It would improve the social condition.

No doubt there are many people who do not quite appreciate when we talk of Islam. Some of our non-Muslim friends who do not quite appreciate when we talk of Islam. Islam is not only a set of rituals, traditions, and spiritual doctrines. Islam is a code for every Muslim, which regulates his life and his conduct in all aspects, social, political economic, etc. It is based on highest principles of honour, integrity, fair play and justice for all. Barrister - M A Jinnah ( January 25, 1948 - Addressed the Sindh Bar Association)