Ababeel SSM - Pakistan gains MIRV technology.

[HRK]

How many warheads Ababeel 1 can carry in max configuration.

supposedly three ...

 

[The Deterrent]

you can't beat me in my subject

Yupp, you win .

 

[saiyan0321]

He is mistaken again it was March 3B Rocket .....

Plz share this with him a more similar Bus & we are acknowledging it by placing our Flag & emblem of SUPARCO on it ....
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Plz someone should ask him does he know the specification of the kuaizhou-1a which supposedly can carry only 200-300 KG payload .... on the other hand even S-II is capable of carring the 1000 Kg payload in unitary warhead configuration & He think a 3 MIRV payload will around 200- to 300 Kg .... ???

What an idiot .... he is ....

There is no point. They are bombarded by their media left right and center about a specific image about Pakistan. That image is that Pakistan is controlled by its army and has massive religious and ethnic and provincial fault lines and is about to be broken and balkanized. On top of it all they believe that any achievement whether scientific or military or strategic comes from either north Korea or China and pakistan is a slave ready to be eaten by China. With this it creates an image. A massive image that they subconsciously have to protect and thus use these excuses as a means to protect that mental image.

So whenever we acheive anything. A jet fighter, a tank, a submarine launched cruise missile or MIRV they come up with these excuses without any proof, senseless rantings and pathetic points. Classic case of brainwashing through media. Its quite interesting actually. How just a few outlets and channels can create an opinion provided there is no other voice in the contrast.

 

[The Deterrent]

Bold part

My bad, should have started this discussion with you

The "Satellite Imagery Expert" of India has finally find out how we developed Ababeel

https://twitter.com/x/status/824620956144508928

1. KZ-1A has a max payload fairing diameter of 1.4m but Ababeel/Shaheen-II/III all have a base diameter of 1.4m, so Ababeel's fairing is much larger at 1.7-1.8m.
2. KZ-1A's payload capacity is 200kg to a 700km orbit, which is far far less than Ababeel's probable payload of 3xMIRVs touching ~600km apogee.

Edit: I don't know what kind of fits these morons will throw after we unveil the MIRVed system. Let me write before-hand some things that they will say:
1. Its just an SLV.
2. It just jettisons multiple warheads, they are not guided because pakis don't have any knowledge of independent trajectory insertions.
3. It looks so fragile, its not mobile.
4. The range is not enough for independent trajectory insertions.
5. China gifted it to Pakistan.
and so on.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...m-submarine-ispr.471649/page-68#ixzz4Wsydntrc

So far 1,2,4,5 have been claimed. I feel like Nostradamus.

 

[saiyan0321]

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...m-submarine-ispr.471649/page-68#ixzz4Wsydntrc

So far 1,2,4,5 have been said. I feel like Nostradamus.

No points for number 5. Number 5 was as obvious as predicting that tomorrow the sun will rise. Number 5 always happens. It happened even with babur3 :p :p :p

 

[Tiger Awan]

He is mistaken again it was March 3B Rocket .....

Plz share this with him a more similar Bus & we are acknowledging it by placing our Flag & emblem of SUPARCO on it ....
View attachment 372057


Plz someone should ask him does he know the specification of the kuaizhou-1a which supposedly can carry only 200-300 KG payload .... on the other hand even S-II is capable of carring the 1000 Kg payload in unitary warhead configuration & He think a 3 MIRV payload will around 200- to 300 Kg .... ???

What an idiot .... he is ....

Have confronted him in past too but he simply doesn't reply.

https://twitter.com/x/status/824660305246650369

 

[Basel]

MIRVs can be countered regardless of how they deployed, it's all about having plenty of layers and good numbers, with the AAD, PAD and S-400, MIRVs will be shot down.

Same can be said about ABM & Air defense that those can be countered too.

 

[ShoutB]

No they are not, using lesser payload defies the purpose of the test in the first place.

So as per you there were three warheads.


Only this much area is marked as danger zone by NOTAM for three MIRV warheads? Confusing and defies the basic technicality of a MIRV warhead test.

This is K4 SLBM NOTAM issued for 31st Jan test. Not sure whether one warhead or multiple. Normally multiple warhead require minimum 2000 sq km area for 3 warheads. Because THEY DISPERCE!

 

[Safriz]

So as per you there were three warheads.


Only this much area is marked as danger zone by NOTAM for three MIRV warheads? Confusing and defies the basic technicality of a MIRV warhead test.

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This is K4 SLBM NOTAM issued for 31st Jan test. Not sure whether one warhead or multiple. Normally multiple warhead require minimum 2000 sq km area for 3 warheads. Because THEY DISPERCE!

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MIRV can be dispensed in a linear pattern,nothing wrong here.

 

[ShoutB]

MIRV can be dispensed in a linear pattern,nothing wrong here.

Not when the missile is less than 3000km range.

 

[The Deterrent]

So as per you there were three warheads.


Only this much area is marked as danger zone by NOTAM for three MIRV warheads? Confusing and defies the basic technicality of a MIRV warhead test.

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This is K4 SLBM NOTAM issued for 31st Jan test. Not sure whether one warhead or multiple. Normally multiple warhead require minimum 2000 sq km area for 3 warheads. Because THEY DISPERCE!

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Hey little man, I already told you that you won. Do you need a prize or something?

BTW, 1st test = covers the basics = RVs jettisoned around the same target.
And nope, DRDO's NAVAREA warnings for BMs have always been like this...triangular. Be it A-4/A-5/K-4, all of which deliver unitary warhead.

 

[ShoutB]

Hey little man, I already told you that you won. Do you need a prize or something?

BTW, 1st test = covers the basics = RVs jettisoned around the same target.
And nope, DRDO's NAVAREA warnings for BMs have always been like this...triangular. Be it A-4/A-5/K-4, all of which deliver unitary warhead.

Indian warheads have IRNSS in use and this means better performance and CEP close to zero this means are we testing MIRV?

Secondly, RV jettisoned around same target? So the Post boost Vehicle used cryogenics to stay stationary? or dropped all in one go?

 

[MilSpec]

Mukti Bahini were never declared as terrorists for two reasons

1. Their existence and violent struggle lasted from 25th March 1971 to 16th December 1971, a short period after which they came into power in an independent Bangladesh and ended their violent struggle. If Pakistan Army was fighting against them, they were of course considered hostile however after they into power, there was no point for Pakistan to declare it as a terrorist group so in order to do some damage control, Pakistani Govt. of that time accepted Bangladesh as a country.

that is your country prerogative. As I said, the rest of the world and your own government in policy does not view Mukti Bahini as a terror entity, and neither does it see Bangladesh as a Terrorist Country.

2. Usually, organizations who are struggling internally against a country for their rights are not declared as terrorist organizations by the UN, some examples from your own backyard are ULFA (which is put as a group of concern by UN but not as a terrorist group), CPI/PLGA, Khalitan Movement etc.

Lashkar a taibba and JeM are formed of Pakistani nationals who are stuggling for rights of Indians in Kahsmir? Mukti Bahini was supported by India, but formed of Bangladeshis not indians, The chief of MB was not an Indian. These terrorist organisations that take pride in carnage in Mumbai, Dehi, Pune etc, are not struggling for anyone's rights. they are a cost effective mechanism of inflicting damage in India by Pakistani proxies.

The fact remains that India helped Mukti Bahini by arming them and providing them with manpower, shelter and support and Modi admitted to that recently. He admitted that Indian Army soldiers fought side by side with Mukti Bahini, How different is that to Pakistan supporting LeT and JuD?

Who has ever denied that, your general signed the instrument of surrender to Gen Arora, ofcourse Indian fought side by side with MB.

It is different, because its not just LeT and JuD, it is also Taliban, Al Qaida, Hakat Ul Mujhahideen, Al Badr, Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front, Hizbul Mujhahideen, Harkat ul jihadi al islami, harkat ul ansar to name a few. What is exactly the common cause between all of these organisation irrespective of the theater the operate in?
Apart from that most of the organisations that Pakistan supports and promotes are recognized by UN and other major powers as terror organisations.

How about your government put it money where it's mouth is.

So either try to move the international community to move against India and Bangladesh by launching an effort to declare MB and its state as terrorists or plead the case for LET/JEM/HUJI/AB/JKLF/HuM all as freedom fighters and get them removed from all control lists.

 

[The Deterrent]

Indian warheads have IRNSS in use and this means better performance and CEP close to zero this means are we testing MIRV?

Secondly, RV jettisoned around same target? So the Post boost Vehicle used cryogenics to stay stationary? or dropped all in one go?

CEP after re-entry is close to zero? Please burn your engineering degree.

No it performed a lungi-dance to troll the Indian officials 'monitoring' the test on their LRTR radar screens.

 

[Bratva]

1. KZ-1A has a max payload fairing diameter of 1.4m but Ababeel/Shaheen-II/III all have a base diameter of 1.4m, so Ababeel's fairing is much larger at 1.7-1.8m.
2. KZ-1A's payload capacity is 200kg to a 700km orbit, which is far far less than Ababeel's probable payload of 3xMIRVs touching ~600km apogee.


Source: https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...m-submarine-ispr.471649/page-68#ixzz4Wsydntrc

So far 1,2,4,5 have been claimed. I feel like Nostradamus.

Green Ankho waalay Dandany Wali sarkar ki hakoomat kab aa rahi Pakistan mai ?