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Jury of Dr. Aafia case sends new question to judge

Updated at: 0700 PST, Wednesday, February 03, 2010

NEW YORK – Sami Ibraham: The jury hearing Dr. Aafia Siddiqui case has sent a new question to judge in connection with the statement of Dr. Aafia Siddiqui, following which, the judge has summoned members of jury, prosecutors and defense counsels here on Tuesday, Geo news reported.

According to sources, the members of jury, prosecutor lawyers and defense counsel will hold discussion over the new question.

The 12-member jury raised question over the difference appeared in the accounts of Dr. Aafia Siddiqui and which separately stated before court and FBI, sources said.

Responding to the newly posed question, the defense counsels and prosecutor lawyers will give their accounts in this connection, sources further said.

The defense counsels have now apprised Pakistani government that they do not anticipate court’s verdict in favour of Dr. Aafia Siddiqui, but nevertheless, the defense counsels have also assured government of filing appeal in High Court if court did not acquit Dr. Aafia, sources concluded.

Jury of Dr. Aafia case sends new question to judge
 
tehran times : Laws of science do not apply in Aafia Siddiqui case, lawyer says

Aafia Siddiqui's lawyer says the laws of science do not apply in the case against the Pakistani woman who is charged with attempting to murder U.S. soldiers and FBI agents.

Siddiqui is accused of grabbing a U.S. warrant officer's M-4 rifle in a police station in Ghazni, Afghanistan and firing two shots at FBI agents and military personnel when being interrogated for her alleged possession of documents detailing a 'terrorist' plan.

On Monday, Siddiqui's lawyer Linda Moreno said in the final stages of her trial in the Manhattan Federal Court that the “science” supported her testimony that she didn't touch the weapon or fire it, The Wall Street Journal reported.

“Where are the bullet holes? …Did the Afghanis take the bullet holes? …There is no physical evidence that an M-4 rifle was touched by Dr. Aafia Siddiqui, let alone fired,” Moreno said.

She went on to say that Siddiqui appears to have been interrogated in a “sort of a Bermuda Triangle of a room” in which the evidence of the alleged crime had disappeared before reaching the courtroom.

“According to the government, the laws of science don't exist in that small room in Ghazni, Afghanistan. The laws of physics don't apply.”

The prosecution says she burst from behind a curtain and attempted the 'murder' and was shot in the abdomen.

Last week, Siddiqui said she was concerned about being transferred to a “secret” prison by the U.S. forces and was trying to slip out of the room when she was shot. “I'm telling you what I know. I walked toward the curtain. I was shot and I was shot again. I fainted,” she said.

The prosecutors condemned the defense as 'lies.' “She raised her right hand and she lied to your face. She lied and lied and lied,” Prosecutor Christopher LaVigne was quoted by The New York Daily News as saying in the closing arguments of the trial.

“We're here, folks, because the defendant committed attempted murder. She had the motive to do it. She had the know-how to do it,” La Vigne was quoted by the Journal as saying, despite the accused's insistence that she did not even know how to use firearms.

The defendant was thrown out of the trial twice after protesting over not being given “a chance to speak,” calling the trial a sham and saying her children had been tortured.

Siddiqui vanished in Karachi, Pakistan with her three children on March 30, 2003. The next day it was reported in local newspapers that she had been taken into custody on terrorism charges.

U.S. officials allege that she was seized on July 17, 2008 by Afghan security forces in Ghazni province and claim that documents, including formulas for explosives and chemical weapons, were found in her handbag.

She has been brought to the United States to face charges of attempted murder and assault. Siddiqui faces 20 years in prison on the attempted murder charges and life in prison on the firearms charge.

I think Moreno has fought for her defence brilliantly. There is more than reasonable doubt to have her freed which is how the US Justice system is supposed to work.

Jury is surely taking a lot of time for the judgement.

Threads merged. I'm extremely baffled, the US justice system is supposed to pronounce NOT GUILTY if there is even a reasonable doubt. The absence of the evidence of proving the supposed (attempted) murder weapon is indeed Aafias, or the absence of bullets for ballistics analysis and the absence of bullet holes to have EVER been recorded by any forensic team... All point to the fact that she never fired the weapon.

There is doubt. She should be pronounced not guilty.
 
Threads merged. I'm extremely baffled, the US justice system is supposed to pronounce NOT GUILTY if there is even a reasonable doubt. The absence of the evidence of proving the supposed (attempted) murder weapon is indeed Aafias, or the absence of bullets for ballistics analysis and the absence of bullet holes to have EVER been recorded by any forensic team... All point to the fact that she never fired the weapon.

There is doubt. She should be pronounced not guilty.

I agree. This case points to the pitfalls of trying to bring someone to civilian court "from the battlefield". It is clear that there was no "crime scene investigation (CSI)" unit response to the incident in Kabal, hence no crime scene physical evidence. US Courts (and hopefully the jury) expect that such evidence would have been collected if you are going to charge someone with attempted murder. So, at least in the case of a "crime" in the USA wherein no CSI response was mounted, the case becomes a "he said, she said" one and most juries would find a reasonable doubt that the facts were as presented by the prosecution. She would be acquitted if this were a "normal" trial. The prosecutors are asking the jury to essentially "trust them" that Aafia did what they said she did. If convicted it would be an easy appeal but the process could take years, meanwhile she would be incarcerated. Not just if that's what happens.
 
The verdict will be out any time now. At least one out of the 12 people should do the right thing and say that there is reasonable doubt.
 
The Trial of Aafia Siddiqui

By JOANNE MARINER
Wednesday, February 3, 2010
Aafia Siddiqui, the MIT-educated Pakistani woman on trial in federal court in Manhattan for attempted murder, is now awaiting a verdict in her case. After ten days of testimony in the trial, jury deliberations began on Monday afternoon. As of Wednesday morning, the jury had not yet reached a verdict.

The events for which Siddiqui is on trial are dramatic, but even more dramatic is the backdrop to the case. Siddiqui, who is believed to have married alleged 9/11 plotter Ammar al-Baluchi in early 2003, disappeared in Karachi, Pakistan, in March of that year. Her family claims that she took a taxi to Karachi airport, together with her three children -- Ahmed, age 6, Mariam, age 4, and Suleman, age 6 months – and then vanished.

Al-Baluchi disappeared in April 2003 himself. A wanted terrorism suspect, he was whisked into the custody of the Pakistani intelligence services, who were working closely with the CIA in the "war on terror." He didn't reappear until September 2006, when he and thirteen other so-called "high-value detainees" were moved from secret CIA detention to Guantanamo.

Human rights organizations like Human Rights Watch thought that Siddiqui, too, was likely being held in secret by the CIA. But while many other "ghost detainees" reappeared in 2006 -- either at Guantanamo, Bagram, or in the custody of other governments -- she did not.

Her whereabouts remained a mystery until July 2008, when she and her oldest son surfaced in the custody of the Afghan police, having been arrested in Ghazni, Afghanistan. The day after her arrest, while she was detained at a police station, she allegedly picked up an unattended rifle and fired at a group of FBI agents, US soldiers, Afghan police and translators. No one was hurt except Siddiqui herself; she was shot by one of the soldiers.

The details of those two days in July have been parsed through at trial over the past two weeks. The jury has heard from eyewitnesses to the incident, ballistics experts, and crime scene investigators. But crucial parts of Siddiqui's story are missing.

A trial's narrative is always tightly circumscribed by the rules of evidence and the demands of relevance. In this instance, however, the constraints of the trial narrative have seemed especially limiting. Not only has the question of whether Siddiqui spent months or years in a secret prison not been thoroughly explored, the fate of her two missing children has not been clarified.

"If You Were in Secret Prisons"

To the extent that claims about a secret prison surfaced at trial, it was largely because Siddiqui herself – sometimes in courtroom outbursts – raised them. Siddiqui's defense lawyers did little to draw out information about Siddiqui's possible CIA detention, and the government clearly wanted the topic to go away.

If Siddiqui's lawyers had wanted to explore the question, they faced two major obstacles. First, the government was uncooperative; it refused to provide any information about the Bush administration's system of secret CIA detention, claiming that such information was classified. Second, Siddiqui did not cooperate with her legal team, leaving them without a possible firsthand source of information.

The issue nonetheless arose on the very first day of trial. Captain Robert Snyder, a US Army officer who was stationed in Ghazni at the time of Siddiqui's arrest, was describing the documents that Siddiqui was said to be carrying when she was arrested. For much of the morning, Siddiqui had rested her head on the defense table, suggesting that she was not paying close attention to the testimony. But as Snyder began listing the writing on some of the documents –words like "dirty bomb," "lethal radiation," "deadly fallout," "Empire State Building," "Brooklyn Bridge" – Siddiqui suddenly interrupted him, upset.

"If you were in secret prisons," she said, her voice growing louder, "[and] your children were tortured ... " As the judge motioned for her to be removed from the courtroom, she continued: "This is not plans for New York City; I was never planning to bomb it! You're lying!"

The subject came up again the next week when Siddiqui herself was on the witness stand, tense and uncomfortable under grilling by the prosecutor. During direct examination by one of her defense attorneys, the topic of secret prisons did not arise, but when the prosecutor started to discuss the documents that had allegedly been in Siddiqui's possession, Siddiqui interrupted her.

"If they're in a secret prison, they see their children tortured in front of them ... "

"That's not responsive," the judge ruled, after the prosecutor complained. "Strike the testimony."

"You Told Special Agent Sercer That You Had Been in Hiding for Several Years"

Later in Siddiqui's cross-examination, the prosecutor came up with a very different version of how Siddiqui spent her missing years. Describing Siddiqui's conversations with an FBI agent who spent time with her at Bagram Air Base while she was receiving medical care there, the prosecutor challenged Siddiqui's story of secret detention.

"At Bagram," the prosecutor insisted, "you told Special Agent Sercer that you had been in hiding for several years."

The prosecutor got a chance to develop the story further when Special Agent Sercer, an FBI intelligence analyst, took the stand. Asked whether Siddiqui had discussed her whereabouts during the years before her 2008 arrest, Sercer said that Siddiqui had said she'd been in hiding.

"She would move from place to place," Sercer said Siddiqui had told her. "She married someone so that her name would be changed. She stayed indoors a lot."

Sercer's version of the story coincides with what Siddiqui's first husband, from whom she divorced in 2002, has told journalists. He claims that Siddiqui was seen at her house in the years between 2003 and 2008, and that he himself saw her in Karachi.

A Diversion or a Crime

In his closing argument, the prosecutor dismissed Siddiqui's references to torture and secret prisons, calling them "a classic diversion." The case "isn't about that," he insisted: It's about what happened in a police station in Ghazni, Afghanistan.

But there's no doubt that as the members of the jury deliberate, they'll be wondering about what happened to Siddiqui well before she arrived in Ghazni. If the present trial is not the right place for solving that conundrum, a better option should be found.

The American writers do appear impartial but somehow they forget to write about the missing evidence.

oneheartforpeace: No Exculpatory Evidence Against Aafia Siddiqui//No Links to al-Qaeda

Two FBI experts who testified last week in high profile trial of Dr.Aafia Siddqui in New York conceded that there were no finger prints on the M4 rifle, and it is not certain that the rifle was even fired.

If Dr. Siddiqui did not pick up the M4 assault rifle and did not point and shoot it at the Americans in the room at the headquarters of the Afghan National Police (ANP) on July 18, 2009, then she is actually innocent of the charges or, at the very least, there is reasonable doubt that Dr. Siddiqui committed any of the crimes with which she is charged.

To counter the absence of fingerprint, which is mostly used as “the powerful forensic, exculpatory fact” the Government presented FBI expert D.J. Fife to explain that it is not uncommon to find no finger prints.

During his testimony Mr. Fife testified that no latent fingerprints were recovered from the M-4 rifle that Dr. Siddiqui allegedly grabbed from the Chief Warrant Officer and explained the general difficulties inherent in obtaining fingerprints from firearms. He also testified that fingerprints are recovered from firearms approximately less than ten percent of the time.

FBI expert Fife testified about various factors that affect the ability to obtain fingerprints from firearms, including atmospheric conditions, environmental conditions, perspiration, and the surfaces of firearms.

He also testified about various physical features of individuals that can affect the ability of a fingerprint examiner to obtain fingerprints of value.

It was his position that Dr. Siddiqui has very small hands and fingers, which negatively affect the ability to obtain fingerprints of value from items with which she has been in contact.

During cross examination when defense attorney Ms. Sharp asked Mr. Fife if he has ever tested Dr. Siddiqui’s palm, he replied in negative which led to next logical question as to how he know if he she has small hands. FBI agent Fife was agreed that many his assertions were not ‘scientific’.


Ms. Sharp questioned the testimony of D.J. Fife based on his experience and generally accepted principles in his forensic field – that latent fingerprints are recovered from firearms only about ten percent of the time. She also suggested that Fife’s opinion is not scientifically reliable, and, in the alternative, that his opinion is more unfairly prejudicial than probative “in that it is offered in an attempt to sway the jurors in favor of the Government’s case.”


When asked how many guns he has analyzed, FBI expert conceded that his experience was limited around 10 to 20 weapons that he has analyzed. When asked why did he not take pictures of areas where finger prints could have been visible, FBI expert said it was of ‘no value.’

Are you freakin kidding me?

Second key FBI expert Carlo Rosati Carlo Rosati, who testified on the fourth day of the high trial of Dr. Aafia Siddqui conceded that he cannot say with certainty that any shots were fired from the M4 rifle.
Lol its new?

He said that based on his examination, one 9-mm bullet and two 9-mm cartridge cases recovered at the crime scene were fired from the Chief Warrant Officer’s 9-mm pistol. He also testified that he examined a curtain obtained from the crime scene for the presence of gunshot residue, but none was found.

It appears Crime scene investigation did take place. It was supposedly a police station, they couldn't all be idiots in the Ghazni PD.

However, upon cross examination he conceded key element of the bullet – a steel tip that penetrates the target never fragments and should have remained intact.
Where is it?

During cross examination Defense Attorney Charles Swift asked the FBI expert if he was certain that the one 9-mm bullet and two 9-mm cartridge cases recovered at the crime scene were fired from the Chief Warrant Officer’s 9-mm pistol. FBI expert Rosati categorically said, “Yes”.

When asked if he is certain an M-4 was ever shot at the crime scene, the FBI expert responded in negative.

The evidence corroborates Aafia's story, that she was trying to give them a slip when they shot her.

The FBI expert also agreed that there was no evidence that Dr. Aafia Siddiqui fired an M4 rifle. He agreed that if a bullet fired from M4 rifle penetrated the wall, as alleged by the government, it would have been found. He said he had examined the debris of the wall and did not find any evidence that would lead him to believe that a bullet penetrated the wall.

Rosati also agreed with the defense attorney that no gun shot residue was found on the curtain, which was allegedly within six inches of the M4 when it was fired.

Man if you've ever traveled to the US, they make all the Muslims, especially Pakistanis walk through a special gunpowder detection closet type of thing. It blows air on you and is supposed to be able to pick up gun powder even if you just touched a gun or a bomb hours ago. Pretty cool.

This should be the undamning evidence needed.

Dr. Siddiqui’s DNA was not found on the M4 rifle;

no bullets, casing or shrapnel of any kind from the M4 rifle were found in the quite small enclosed space where Dr. Siddiqui was alleged to have fired this firearm;

no indication that investigators even attempted to test the M4 rifle at issue to see if it has been fired at the time of the incident at or around July 18, 2008.

In Pakistan, her sister Fauzia Siddiqui told High Court last week her sister was not arrested from Afghanistan but by the previous Pakistani regime of General Pervez Musharaf on March 30, 2003, along with her three children from Karachi and handed her over to the United States. Only one of her kids have been returned so far.
Musharraf denies handing her over, but who knows may be they did and this secret is what will be outed when Aafia's released.

Up until a month or two ago, it was even denied that she ever stepped into Bagram, now they are allowing Bagram into the story as a means of "she was treated for this n that".

I don't argue that she's mentally unstable, but shes been made this way through torture and whatever they did to her children.
 
A Brief Timeline of Aafia?s Case | Dr Aafia Siddiqui - The Prisoner 650

– October 6: Pakistani senators Mushahid Hussain Syed, Sadia Abbasi Mehmood, and SM Zafar met with Aafia; Faqir Saeed of the Pakistani embassy as well; she tells them of her ordeal – that she was abducted in 2003, given an injection, found herself in a cell, and was forced to sign papers and confess to things she didn’t do; her children’s lives were threatened and she was abused grievously;
 
An interesting Pattern I've seen. The American media is using quite a few damning nicknames for her. 'Lady Al Qaeda', 'Terror Mom', yellow journalism I must say. These things might have an impact on the trial and if its under the DOJ's jurisdiction it must take notice of it.
 
Why dont they just release her , Just as an act of good will and trust building measures ... People know shes innocent .Then wats taking them so long ... !

Such issues only tend to blowup the US image in Pakistan ..!
Poor Doc, feel pity for what she beared .. ! Even theres no human rights watchdog mediate into the issue ..!
 
For what it's worth, I think that this verdict was wrong. She should have been acquitted. I am sorry for her that she must now go through many more years before she might be released. Perhaps Pakistan can appeal to the USA for her release into Pakistani custody. Perhaps the five young Americans who went to Pakistan for jihad could be exchanged for her ......
 
For what it's worth, I think that this verdict was wrong. She should have been acquitted. I am sorry for her that she must now go through many more years before she might be released. Perhaps Pakistan can appeal to the USA for her release into Pakistani custody. Perhaps the five young Americans who went to Pakistan for jihad could be exchanged for her ......

I guess Pakistani Authorities can release those 5 US citizens just to bring that poor soul back home to her family again . That shouldn't be the problem . What about you TruthSeeker , Cant you just Email any one of your congressmen to take notice of this issue and can help for her release . It would be highly appreciated ..!

Thanks
 
VERDICT: GUILTY.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8497251.stm

Pakistani female scientist guilty of US murder attempt

A US court has found a Pakistani female scientist guilty of attempting to murder US agents while she was detained for questioning in Afghanistan.
The prosecution said Aafia Siddiqui, a US-trained neuroscientist, picked up an army rifle and shot at the US agents.
None of the Americans was injured but Siddiqui, 37, was shot.
She was arrested by Afghan police in July 2008 on suspicion of carrying chemicals and notes referring to "mass-casualty attacks" in New York.
She has been accused of having links to the al-Qaeda leadership
A jury in Manhattan found Siddiqui guilty of attempted murder, of armed assault, using and carrying a firearm.
The attempted murder was found not to have been premeditated.
Rights groups say she has spent the last five years in secret US jails.
 
No commentNo bullets foud, No bullets in walls, No finger prints on gun, No finger prints on triggerNo nothing ... Guilty

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