8 Chinese submarines approval & used western subs talks

[DESERT FIGHTER]

India has 16 submarines 10 Russians and 8 Germans.In addition there are 6 French subs under constructions
and a contract of a further batch of 6 is being signed. All to make Indian Navy a blue water navy,whereas Pakistan Navy
having only 5 (3 Agosta 90 and 2 old Agosta 70) submarines are good enough to protect coastal area of our country.

Half of those subs are not operational .. Others are antiques .. 1 or 2 were blown to shit.

 

[Tipu7]

Judging from ''shopping list'' of Pakistan .............. looks like we will soon jump in Saudia Arabia and then we will have what we want.....................

 

[kaku1]

Half of those subs are not operational .. Others are antiques .. 1 or 2 were blown to shit.

The Modi government signals a new push into the Indian Ocean with a diplomatic offensive and naval expansion to counter China's growing presence : Special Report - India Today

India’s first Scorpene submarine is now in water

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Govt endorses summary to get 8 submarines from China, defence committee told - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

ISLAMABAD: Naval officials informed the Standing Committee on Defence Monday that the federal government has endorsed a summary to get eight submarines from China.

Pakistan's military has long been a major importer of defence equipment, particularly from key ally China.

After the Cold War ended Pakistan began to deepen defence and economic ties with China.

Take a look: With new JF-17, Pakistan aims for boost to defence exports

The committee was informed that Secretary of the Economic Affairs division Muhammad Saleem Sethi would be leaving for China tomorrow where the issue is expected to come under discussion.

The officials also said that the national security committee will give the final nod to go ahead with the plan to get eight submarines from China.

"Other proposals are under consideration as well. The Pakistan navy is also in touch with Germany, Britain and France to purchase used submarines," officials informed the committee.

Keeping in view the level of threat and the present status of submarines, naval officials said Pakistan needed the latest submarines.

The naval officials also revealed that France had refused to provide submarines to Pakistan.

They said there seemed to be various reasons behind France's refusal to sell submarines to Pakistan — including an issue of technology transfer. On the other hand, they said France was selling its submarines to India.

The naval officials rejected some committee members' concerns that Chinese technology was not of satisfactory quality.They said there was no such issue at hand as JF-17 has proven to be a world class military jet.

The officials informed the standing committee that Pakistan's defence relations with Russia were also improving.

On the other hand, there appeared to be a divide among committee members whether Pakistan should send troops to Saudi Arabia.

Defence Secretary Lieutenant General (retd) Alam Khattak said that the Pakistan Army would abide by the government's decision on whether to send troops to Saudi Arabia to partake in a military campaign in Yemen.

This was the first time that the defence secretary spelled out the official stance of the Pakistan Army on sending troops to Saudi Arabia to partake in a military campaign in Yemen.

His brief comment came in response to a volley of questions by committee members as to whether military troops would be sent to the Saudi kingdom.

Chairman Sheikh Rohail Asghar maintained that the Pakistan Army should chase terrorists regardless of their location but women members belonging to the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) and Awami National Party (ANP) had a different point of view.



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[aliaselin]

This news is confusing. Will Pakistan buy 8 submarines from China and second hand ones from Europe or choose one of the previous options?

 

[black-hawk_101]

It was a Better idea for PN to produce about 10 of the Agosta-90Bs in the past and then join in with EU on next generation submarines along with GCC countries. But the current condition calls for buying may be used Agosta-70s from EU with upgrades.

 

[rockstar08]

8 subs (Originally we're in negotiation for 6)

6 MPA's (Complete surprise)

4 Frigs ( old news just popped out of nowhere today)

..


Meanwhile Army just approved to buy MI-35s.
3 Z-10s also landed ( supposedly free )


..

Other major acquisitions this year 8 xCutter ships

90+ SH-1 SP guns.

Nurol Arnoured vehicles

The fk.

Nazar nai lagana ab
Mashallah tu bolo

 

[Burhan Wani]

Nazar nai lagana ab
Mashallah tu bolo

Can you share the model of shortlisted subs for our navy?

 

[rockstar08]

Can you share the model of shortlisted subs for our navy?

i dont know which one they are seeking but i guess , its S-20 .... but i dont know which one they can buy from French and Germans ?
@Horus @fatman17 can help here ...

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Nazar nai lagana ab
Mashallah tu bolo

Those 6 ATRs I couldn't find anything on them.

 

[rockstar08]

Those 6 ATRs I couldn't find anything on them.

what is ATR ??

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

It was a Better idea for PN to produce about 10 of the Agosta-90Bs in the past and then join in with EU on next generation submarines along with GCC countries. But the current condition calls for buying may be used Agosta-70s from EU with upgrades.

Why would we buy old agostas 70s when we can can build agosta 90Bs under licsense (they came with complete ToT - built at Karachi Shipyard).

 

[Saifullah Sani]

i dont know which one they are seeking but i guess , its S-20 .... but i dont know which one they can buy from French and Germans ?
@Horus @fatman17 can help here ...

The naval officials also revealed that France had refused to provide submarines to Pakistan.

 

[rockstar08]

i knew that it would have happen ... but German U214 are better ...

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

what is ATR ??

what is ATR ??