5 Iranian soldiers kidnapped by militants, taken to Balochistan.

[Khan_patriot]

accommodating terrorists so they can launch attacks against neighbors is not what "brother nations" do.
its illogical to assume that one of the world's most powerful militaries is unable to get rid of bunch of idiots with beard, isnt it?

Are you suggesting the snatch and grab was government sanctioned....???
Had your own military and border control been effective they would not have been captured....

 

[Cheetah786]

no bro they are busy in sponsoring terrorist regime in middle east and Nothern aliance of afghanistan they dont care abt their own border security

How cute another Paudi welcome to the forums our Paudi friend. Jaish at? (if you are using a proper name, then it should begin with a capital letter, i.e.: Al.">al-Adl the terrorist group behind these kidnappings is widely believed to be a Saudi-backed ultraconservative Wahhabi terrorist group. Do some research before taking shoots at others.

And who is and who isn't terrorist in middle east only willfully blind dumb as a doornail moron can't see reality.

Iranians are also to blame here since they know the situations guards shouldn't be travelling in such small numbers that it's easy for terrorist to overwhelm them.100s of pakistani army jwans have been overwhelmed and killed by talibans Cause of incompetence, but cause ("reason"), because ("since") or be caused.">mostly cause we don't have the resources required to be at all the places at all times heck even Americans can't control their border with Mexico.

 

[Jaanbaz]

If this isn't deliberate, then it's extreme incompetence. How could large chunks of a country be such a free for all? This is Sudan/Somalia levels of free for all. How can armed terrorists just roam around back and forth across borders and do whatever in Pakistani territory? And then when Iranian border guards shoot them down, they start crying that we have a shoot on sight policy. Well, ****! Our border guards don't know if the guys coming over have been checked or not. It seems like anybody can grab weapons and cross the pakistani side without any trouble from authorities.

Does the central government even have any presence outside Islamabad? We're back to the days of the Wild West it seems.

What Central Government? Our PM is a multi billionaire who made his cash by looting the country, He couldn't care less what happens in Pakistan. Local Government officials are also busy looting the country as much as possible. Militant groups are operating with total freedom in Pakistan. Politicians and Mullahs have done a good job by confusing the whole nation regrading its identity and where it should be headed. Even China has complained for terrorists crossing over border from Pakistan and creating trouble into Chinese Turkestan region.

Pakistan is becoming more and more like a failed state. Yet the politicians and the Army Generals don't care. As long as their pockets are full of cash they will continue to black mail USA for more aid in the name of war on terror yet continue to fund and train terrorist to interfere in other countries.

The militant groups targeting Iran are backed by Saudis and extreme Wahabis from madarsah are recruited to kill all Shiite and non Muslims.

 

[Nomad16]

1- send special forces to pakistani borders with iran ,order search and destroy , INSTEAD of using conscript soldiers .

2- use of 24h UCAV survailance

Are the only options in which we can get rid of terrorism from pakistani side of border .

the only way those innocent young men can return to their families is deployment of hostage rescue special forces , the Iranian "Tactical Assault Team","Air Sea Assault Commandos" and "Zarbat Team" to perform CT .

well your tactic is not going to work let me handle it

1- send some spy to iran embassy in pakistan as diplomat let them to contact with local and search for our men
2- make Reward for any info which will lead to kidnapped soldiers
3- at the same time use drone search the border when we get the answer inform pakistani army and ask them to freed our men of they don't respond than use "Tactical Assault Team" pick the hostages get out of there

 

[haman10]

This thread is turning out to be a regional war:

Iran+India Vs Pakistan+KSA

exactly

we dont want war with anyone , we just want our soldiers back and safe with their heads on place .

i assume thats not a great demand , unless pakistani govt. is in love with those terrorists .

 

[haman10]

Nice rant...

even when a fellow country man of yours tells the truth , you are ignorant to listen to him dear brother .

what did he say besides truth ?

pakistan without saudi is the free pakistan everyone wants , just look whats happening on a daily basis in pakistan .

daily bombings and massacre of your beloved people . is that what u want ?

pls look at it from outside of your nationalism bubble , jaanbaz is also nationalist , and as everyone on the planet earth knows iranians love pakistan. why are u guys not listening ?

 

[Falcon29]

These aren't soldiers they are border guards...what I want to know is how they got kidnapped?

Speedy recovery to them.

 

[Falcon29]

The bull shit excuses coming from pakistani members are laughable.

Your country makes the old Wild West look like Belgium, but it's the fault of the border guards that they got kidnapped!

Take it easy, they have many security concerns themselves as well and there is lack of consistency here and there. However if you see this as a part of a larger picture then please mention that so my dear Pakistani members here could understand you.

Even Israel had best security and Hamas managed to capture an Israeli soldier.

 

[Serpentine]

How much Iranian has put efforts to secure their side of of border?

How many cross border attacks are you receiving from Iranian side of border? That would be the right question.

 

[Informant]

Why do Indians come out of the woodworks? Hmmmmm

 

[Serpentine]

Attacking whole Pakistani nation over this incident is not right and moral. But there is nothing wrong to a fair criticizing.

@ Pakistani members: We do criticize you for these attacks and I don't think it's wrong. But we should also blame ourselves and our military commanders who don't care much about border guards and don't give them enough equipment to fight terrorists, not because of lack of equipment, but lack of insight. For such a dangerous area, they shouldn't have used conscripts instead of trained soldiers.

Both sides are to be blamed: Pakistan for not being able to deal with these animals in their side of border and Iran, for not being able to take appropriate measures when it knows that dangers of these terrorist attacks exist almost everyday.

 

[Irajgholi]

Iranian members please keep calm, there is no point in all these arguments.

 

[Bratva]

How many cross border attacks are you receiving from Iranian side of border? That would be the right question.

Isn't smuggling still a thriving business? Terrorists come and go in guise of smugglers

 

[SQ8]

Now.. who wants to release some tension on this thread? Im in for it.

on topic.

The Iran-Pak border isnt exactly the gaza wall.. people cross in and out and guards from both sides step a little over here and there. However, there are terror groups present who are funded sometimes with funds.. and sometimes with ideology to create problems in relations. Other times these groups have their own agenda be it ethnic or religious. They roam freely because government writ does not exist nor does it have the will to enforce that writ lest they offend some local Mullah(from any sect) or benefactors.

 

[Nomad16]

what's done is done they should help iranian army to return them