3rd FAC: PNS Himmat Commissioning Ceremony

[Basel]

Zarb missile may very well be a locally produced version of C-602, and it has a range of 280 km. Certainly more than enough to shoot without putting the boats in danger.

If it's locally made C-602 then full range should be 400km not export version 280km.

 

[YeBeWarned]

I'ld stick the RAM launcher forward: best firing arc. Since RAM can also engage surface targets, that's a good division of fire power all around

might sound a bit stupid question but Position and angel of Launcher plays in important role to enhance Capability ?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Congrats on launch

 

[Penguin]

might sound a bit stupid question but Position and angel of Launcher plays in important role to enhance Capability ?

You want a good firing arc so you can use your system optimally i.e. to the best extent possible.
High or low doesn't matter per se, nor does angle of launcher

 

[Suff Shikan]

You want a good firing arc so you can use your system optimally i.e. to the best extent possible.
High or low doesn't matter per se, nor does angle of launcher

FL-3000N can be good choice

 

[Hassan Guy]

Corvettes next and then AIP subs , finally Karachi shipyard is doing work

 

[mzain]

This is 3rd Azmat Class FAC. So that means this one is not an indigenous design. Am I right ???

 

[khanasifm]

One more to come unless additional are ordered if I am correct total 4 were planned and 4 th one steel cutting ceremony was held few months back I think

With cost around 50 million so 4 for about cost of 1 f22ish the question is how much is their patrol duration one stretch at a time usually 1-3 weeks ??? Max

 

[Cornered Tiger]

This is 3rd Azmat Class FAC. So that means this one is not an indigenous design. Am I right ???

Go through whole thread please

One more to come unless additional are ordered if I am correct total 4 were planned and 4 th one steel cutting ceremony was held few months back I think

With cost around 50 million so 4 for about cost of 1 f22ish the question is how much is their patrol duration one stretch at a time usually 1-3 weeks ??? Max

yup total 4 till now, 4th one under construction.

Max speed of Azmat FAC is 56Km/h, lets assume the average speed is 40Km/h.
Range of Azmat FAC is 1900Km, means it can travel that much in a single go.
So Endurance at sea can be determined by Range/Average speed.
Endurance at sea in a single go = 1900 Km/40 Kmh-1= 47.5 hours = 2 days.

 

[khanasifm]

Enduranc depends upon patrol speed plus supplies like fuel, food, water etc expect more than 4/5 days in today's navy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_attack_craft

 

[Penguin]

FL-3000N can be good choice

As I have frequently suggested already

Enduranc depends upon patrol speed plus supplies like fuel, food, water etc expect more than 4/5 days in today's navy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_attack_craft

Range: approximately 1,000 nmi (1,852km)

This range at 30 kn would be comparable to e.g. Turkish Kilic / Yildiz / Dogan / Ruzgar classes FAC-M, or French built Combattante II/III class. The knot is a unit of speed equal to one nautical mile (1.852 m) per hour

1000 nmi / 30kn = 33.3 hrs = 1 day and 9 odd hours

Clearly, range would be greater at more economical speeds eg.
Type 037 series (China): 2,000 nmi (3,700 km) at 14 knots; = 142.9 hrs= 5.95 days
Combattante III: 2,000 nmi at 15 kn; = 133.3 hrs= 5.55 days
Combattante II: 1,600 nmi (3,000 km; 1,800 mi) at 15 knots; = 106.7hrs = 4.44 days

At economical speed, an endurance of 4-6 days would seem reasonable for this type of ship.

Then again, there is variation in this respect between different classes of ships. For example:

Saar 4.5 class (Israel)

• Speed:
  • Maximum: 34 knots
  • Cruising: 19 knots

• Range:
  • 4,800 nautical miles (8,900 km) at 19 knots (35 km/h); 252.6 hrs = 10.5 days
    
  • 2,200 nautical miles (4,100 km) at 30 knots (56 km/h); 73.3 hrs = 3.1 days

Victory class (Singapore)

• Speed:
  • Maximum: 37 kn (69 km/h; 43 mph);
    
  • Cruising: 18 knots (33 km/h; 21 mph)
• Range: 4,000 nmi (7,400 km) at 18 knots (33 km/h; 21 mph); 222.2hrs = 9.3 days

Another example: BNS Durjoy

• Range: 2,500 nmi (4,600 km; 2,900 mi)
• Endurance: 15 days

Clearly, this implies a much lower patrol speed (2500nmi / 360hrs = 7kn)

The fuel economy of the (diesel) engines and the size of the ships' fuel tanks are key in the above calculations.

 

[Readerdefence]

This is Azmat class with different AShM, yes.


Why does China have Type 022 (which has even less armament than Azmat class)? What do you think?


Look at 1.21. This one has manned forward Chinese twin gun replaced with a remote control Turkish 30mm gun. It also looks like there is something additional behind the missile launchers, near the stern (could be a crane, could be something else: stern view pic please!).

Here we go:

Turkish Aselsan SMASH 30mm remote controlled stabilised naval gun system

This mount could take Thales LMM missile, a lightweight air-to-surface and surface-to-surface missile under development by Thales Air Defence. Development began in 2008 and the 8km LMM uses technology from an earlier Thales missile, the [Shorts] Starstreak.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

C602 (zarb) is heavy weight missile
C802A vs C602
warhead 190 kg vs 300-400 kg
Range 180km vs 280km
Both are subsonic

 

[Blue Marlin]

C602 (zarb) is heavy weight missile
C802A vs C602
warhead 190 kg vs 300-400 kg
Range 180km vs 280km
Both are subsonic

the range is much more than that, the chinese local variant has a range of ~400km since this is a pakistani version i expect the same sort of range

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

the range is much more than that, the chinese local variant has a range of ~400km since this is a pakistani version i expect the same sort of range

+ some range for it's additional weight or ?