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[PanzerKiel]

I'm scared now
Are you ISI or something?

Cmon man, i cant be part of spooks....I was just highlighting what Gambler 1 did....for which he was penalized.

 

[Madni Bappa]

Cmon man, i cant be part of spooks....I was just highlighting what Gambler 1 did....for which he was penalized.

How'd gambler 1 gamble with his career? What'd he do wrong? In news he's a hero

 

[PanzerKiel]

How'd gambler 1 gamble with his career? What'd he do wrong? In news he's a hero

You then need to search around on this forum, maybe in the other 27 Feb thread, and then you might get an idea. If you were following this event since 2019, then you shouldn have asked this from me.

27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

 

[Madni Bappa]

You then need to search around on this forum, maybe in the other 27 Feb thread, and then you might get an idea. If you were following this event since 2019, then you shouldn have asked this from me.

27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

I joined this forum few days back. Before I didn't really follow other than news. Sir ap bata den please if you don't mind. Thank you

 

[White privilege]

Lucky for IAF, if they had tried anything else after Su30 shot down, it would have been a massacre.

About that, how did the IAF react after loosing two jets?? They must have been pissed but did the battle picture indicate if there was any contingency ready on their part?? Some Indian poster said here that it took around half an hour to summon reinforcements from mainland, that sounds real clumsy on their part.

 

[araz]

I'm scared now
Are you ISI or something?

He has got your information now. Be scared be very scared.

 

[Windjammer]

Jua khelna haram hai bhai mere

Jua khela tha out of box.
Jackpot mila tu Halal ho gaya.... warna Fatwa lag sakta tha......

 

[White privilege]

Jua khela tha out of box.
Jackpot mila tu Halal ho gaya.... warna Fatwa lag sakta tha......

"If there’s one absolute truth to being the man with your finger on the button, that’s it: they have to think you’re crazy.”

 

[PradoTLC]

About that, how did the IAF react after loosing two jets?? They must have been pissed but did the battle picture indicate if there was any contingency ready on their part?? Some Indian poster said here that it took around half an hour to summon reinforcements from mainland, that sounds real clumsy on their part.

Cos the reinforcement were coming in camels

 

[MastanKhan]

Jua khelna haram hai bhai mere

Hi,

Son---all wars are a GAMBLE---those fought by Prophet Mohammad pbuh or anyone else---.

If you are comparing air strike with gambling---then you got some serious religious issues

 

[Rafael]

Like if i start rattling off....it will surprise us all.

As i mentioned before, there were mistakes made by both PAF and IAF, but being part of them, i take them as normal. During battle, shit happens, we all get used to it.

I will not point out PAF's mistakes for obvious reasons. May be some other time.

Take the case of Abhinandan. He took off, full AB on. His No 2 and 3 also took off after him. As per rules, he should have waited for his No 2 and 3 to catch up, before heading westwards. However, in sheer exhuberance, he kept going on AB, low level flight, taking the advantage of the valleys. The first time he was spotted was when he started a zoom up attack, he popped up suddenly from amongst the mountains, wanting to gain height rapidly and looking around targets for R-77 maybe.

Abhi then entered the box which was being jammed by XYZ asset. At the same moment probably, the four flights of foursomes F-16s (total 16 F-16s), were seen by IAF controllers. Thats when the IAF lady flight controller is heard continuosly, yelling "flow cold". Now, interestingly, since the No 2 and 3 were way behind Abhi, and since they had not entered the kill / jam box, they received the message and went cold as ordered.

Abhi did not receive the message initially. Once he detected the PAF fighters ahead (the nearest F-16 was 9 NM away, he was not the one who took the shot though), he executed standard evasive maneuvers whereby he took 90 deg turn away from the PAF fighters in order to increase distance etc. However, the moment he started turning away from PAF aircraft, the call from the lady controller got through (Abhhi must have gotten out of jam box by now). Now the call was interpreted wrongly by Abhi. If he would have continued on his original course, he would have been far away. However, he took the call as it was like received just now. He reversed his turn and turned INTO the PAF fighters, whereby he took the hit.

PS. If by luck, Abhi's No 2 and 3 would have been with him at the moment....it would have been 16 F-16s (64 AIM-120s and 32 AIM9s overall) against 3 Mig21s....instead of 1, 3 Mig21s would have been surely downed that day. IAF was lucky in this aspect as well.


@The Eagle This is just one story out of many, including of the M-2000 CAP, the Su-30s, the bugging out of IAF AWACs, launch of SAR heli, SPYDER hit...each of these is a separate story...was it mere coincidence that the target which PAF choose to bomb was having indian army chief and possibly Corps commander as well? If PAF would have decided to bomb the target itself instead of dropping them away, wont the killing of indian army chief triggered full-out war? Can it be termed as an intelligence failure on our part? Or was it planned like this, to rattle the indian army top lot in order to bring them to their senses??

It was overall an interesting day. But so is the profession of arms otherwise. Interesting for some, deadly for many,

Sir kabhi JF-17 aur mirage waali story bhi sunaayein. In detail please

 

[PakAlp]

Sir kabhi JF-17 aur mirage waali story bhi sunaayein. In detail please

That would be great, we all want to know how our Jf17 performed and how was the quality of the Chinese systems.

 

[Bratva]

Cmon man, i cant be part of spooks....I was just highlighting what Gambler 1 did....for which he was penalized.

He is wingcommander now. Will Penalty cost him his carrer progression further?

 

[PanzerKiel]

He is wingcommander now. Will Penalty cost him his carrer progression further?

Yes, it will probably effect. Thats how it works in our region.

 

[White privilege]

Yes, it will probably effect. Thats how it works in our region.

We don't care, Wazeer-e-Azam Hassan Siddiqui.