27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[Myth_buster_1]

Okay.

Longer version of the video will unravel the mystery of the second jet shot down.
People can be heard in the clip saying it's on fire.

Here is another very interesting video shows multiple BVR missiles being fired. Lets remember Pakistan says only two bvrs fired but at two different Indian jets at different sites of engagement.

If somebody can explain what's going on in the clip.
@airomerix @silent_poison

PAF said 2 AMRAAM were launched that each killed SU and Mig but does not mention how many altogether were launched that also forced remaining IAF fighters to bug out.

In these videos you can only see fighter jets going at supersonic speed which could be either PAF intruding Indian air space or IAF fighters going back.
Also a missile is tiny compare to a jet engine so contrail would be much much smaller.

 

[Bilal.]

One of them is certainly a missile evident from the speed and straight trajectory, it could be hit seeking missile R-73 fired from Mig 21.

None of the missiles on the Mig21 were fired, shown multiple time on this forum.

 

[graphican]

One of them is certainly a missile evident from the speed and straight trajectory, it could be hit seeking missile R-73 fired from Mig 21.

If it was shoulder-launched R-73 which Abhinandan fired from within the cockpit then you are on point. There is a chance that it could be that R-73 then. Paksitan recovered 4 A2A missiles stationed with the wreckage of Abhinandan's jet. Do you consider this aspect when you make your assumptions?

 

[loanranger]

As reported by India media, it was an ARRAAM missile that fell off and exploded after loosing track of it's target.

Why can't a missile self destruct in air ?

 

[Path-Finder]

They are indian users using Pakistani names.

ah no, if you go back and read all entries for 26/02/19 or 02/26/19 you will see mostly regular members doing the enemies PsyOps work for them.

 

[graphican]

Even then if paf fired from 120 km away from LOC, they would come across 10KM in sheer momentum and also the place doesn't have any military installation nearby. Hardly worth the risk.
As reported by India media, it was an ARRAAM missile that fell off and exploded after loosing track of it's target.


I understand that's the Pakistani position.
But also true another jet went down that day as evident from this video. What do u make from the contrails of the falling jet?

This is the official badge which PAF wears (and so do Turks) in the open and officially. Do you see 2 Indian jets marked as dead? Here you go... now you see 2 jets and here is your answer.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

ah no, if you go back and read all entries for 26/02/19 or 02/26/19 you will see mostly regular members doing the enemies PsyOps work for them.

Well although I became active after 27 Feb here on PDF but I clearly would had been angry here considering how they entered and dropped bombs and were atleast not shot down. IK had said that that Pak wont think it would definitely retaliate but since at the morning time we didnt attacked back (26th morning) I would had assumed we wont do anything as this was the first incident happened in my lifetime full of senses. It was later announced that we would surprise them

 

[graphican]

It did self destruct but probably happened at lower height so the burning pile fall off in bulk.


Did you read the recitation of Veer Chakra given to Abhinandan??
We need more, in fact lot more real evidence before we come to any conclusion.

Good. While your 'evidence' is being searched - PAF and Pakistan has it in hand, on the chest and symbolised on the monuments.

 

[Path-Finder]

Well although I became active after 27 Feb here on PDF but I clearly would had been angry here considering how they entered and dropped bombs and were atleast not shot down. IK had said that that Pak wont think it would definitely retaliate but since at the morning time we didnt attacked back (26th morning) I would had assumed we wont do anything as this was the first incident happened in my lifetime full of senses. It was later announced that we would surprise them

that is NO excuse to start cursing your own side! NO bleeding excuse. Things were not clear firstly and then your own side becomes more emotional than teenage girls. The few seniors kudos to them for their maturity and keeping faith on our side. Some seniors had lost the plot too and ought to be ashamed.

 

[Falcon26]

It did self destruct but probably happened at lower height so the burning pile fall off in bulk.


Did you read the recitation of Veer Chakra given to Abhinandan??
We need more, in fact lot more real evidence before we come to any conclusion.

the recitation was comical. Indians have never proved how Abhinandan “shot down” the supposed F-16 (all missiles are with Pakistan and are unfired) and they have never proven any evidence for the supposed F-16. That India keeps sticking to both the downed F16 and hundreds of militants dead at Balakot shows how deluded they are. Both Pakistani and independent sources agree that no f-16 was shot down and that Balakot was a failed mission. But Indians continue to repeat both claims because the events of February 26/27 are highly embarrassing for India. The conspiracy theories serve a domestic purpose but have no credibility beyond India.

if you go back to the first pages of this very thread, you will see Indian media reporting through their government that all IAF pilots were accounted for. They only changed their stance once the IAF pilot was presented by Pakistan. How’s that for credibility

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Even then if paf fired from 120 km away from LOC, they would come across 10KM in sheer momentum and also the place doesn't have any military installation nearby. Hardly worth the risk.
As reported by India media, it was an ARRAAM missile that fell off and exploded after loosing track of it's target.

First thing first, you boasted in your ignorance about Pakistan not having reach. Upon getting corrected you are changing the goal post. Pakistan has been developing SOWs for nearly two decades, hitting indian target around 100 km from loc is no issue for PAF this can easily be done with first generation SOWs developed two decades ago.

PAF didnt target the Indian military installations directly rather "pinged" them.

India hasn't even admitted that bippin rawat was inside HQ when it was pinged.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Thanks for the clip. But it wasn't air strike on Indian military installation.

They were Indian jets, two Su30MKI to be precise at that moment chased by AMRAAM missiles.

Well, the people said, the jet circled and dropped a bomb, from which the young man was injured.
They didn't say that a missile came from far distance to chase one of the Indian jets.
AMRAAM are called AMRAAM for a reason.
How they injured a villager!!

 

[airomerix]

Okay.

Longer version of the video will unravel the mystery of the second jet shot down.
People can be heard in the clip saying it's on fire.

Here is another very interesting video shows multiple BVR missiles being fired. Lets remember Pakistan says only two bvrs fired but at two different Indian jets at different sites of engagement.

If somebody can explain what's going on in the clip.
@airomerix @silent_poison

These are just couple of jets turning hot and cold. In a grind.

No sign of AMRAAMs. An AMRAAM launched would climb into the stratosphere and disappear to the naked eye within a couple of seconds.

And yes only two AMRAAMs were fired. Otherwise by now the rest of the AMRAAMs may have been recovered. (as per your 5-6 AMRAAM claim)

 

[graphican]

Nice. It still hasn't eroded the misconception among many Pakistanis that a Jf17 shot down Su30mki. Let's see if it can do it in future.

We are happy if you name your assassin. For us, JF17 and F16s are two hands of the same body.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

We are happy if you name your assassin. For us, JF17 and F16s are two hands of the same body.

Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;

- William Shakespeare* (Romeo and Juliet)

*We know him as Shey(k)h Pir