24,500 people freeze to death in UK

[Last Hope]

It is illegal to burn open fires in UK specially in bigger cities. You can go to prison for that. Also do not forget that wood, paper and cartons are expensive in UK since government jealously collects them from all over UK in the name of recycling. Cutting down even shrubs is again a crime against environment that would put you in prison. You have no other legal option but to freeze to death. Sorry.

So you better die, or go to Jail?
Stupidity.

People prefer dying, than having a warm time in Jail.
haha makes me laugh on UK governmental policies.

Are lives of trees worth more than that of human? Do the poor have no rights? Do they have to die a bittery, harsh and slow death? Millions of them?

 

[somebozo]

After spending some time i realized UK government was the biggest real life troll in the world where every law could be gamed by forigeners but their own national are always sacrifical goat. They had to cut down thousand and thousand of law to actually promote forigen investment under cameron government. FDI is not flowing into India and China without a reason. UK is the worst place to do business due to capitalism.

 

[longbrained]

Most of the ardent capitalist block is fast approaching its death. In the last 100 years capitalism has given the world more wars, famine, destruction and suffering than Halaku and Chengiz Khan

Capitalism is on life machine right now. They are injecting all kinds of remedies into its corpse of markets without any success. Just look where stocks and gold are going. It is going to come down with a big bang. They know it too. That is why they are trying to prepare people for it. They would need lots of armies and police to control people on street in order to keep the political elites in power when it happens. They certainly do not like to see another period of guillotine justice in Europe. Desperation is high. Beneath the sophisticated EU is a large majority of poor people starving to death.

 

[desiman]

Communist Venezula was offering subsidized gas for low income american households...an guess what..the american took the offer like greedy dogs..excessive capitalism of linking everything to money makes you immoral and ethicless...or else USA will not have a thriving p0rn industry today!

can you remind me of the last time communism or socialism was moral ? Capitalism is the only system that has worked till now, those who dont want to do anything in life just need an excuse to cry and blame others.

 

[longbrained]

can you remind me of the last time communism or socialism was moral ? Capitalism is the only system that has worked till now, those who dont want to do anything in life just need an excuse to cry and blame others.

No body is talking about communism or socialism here. We are talking about death of WESTERN capitalism based on wars and stealing other nations wealth while killing indigenous population. The alternative is a mixed economy with government regulations in which people work hard for their life and not stealing from other nations.

 

[longbrained]

So you better die, or go to Jail?
Stupidity.

People prefer dying, than having a warm time in Jail.
haha makes me laugh on UK governmental policies.

Are lives of trees worth more than that of human? Do the poor have no rights? Do they have to die a bittery, harsh and slow death? Millions of them?

Well there is no other option. If you open your mouth then they let dogs on you: Press TV

 

[CardSharp]

Wow how does a first world government let this happen?

 

[longbrained]

Wow how does a first world government let this happen?

They can do worse. Ofcourse with their own poor people, they are more gentle. As was noted above in the thread, they freeze their senior citizens to make more money and increase savings for billionaires. As what they do with other people of the world, colonialism is a clear example. From China opium trade to Trail of tears in United States to Bengal engineered famines and Australian extermination. In post colonial world they use their proxies to control their protectorates and colonies. Watch this:

 

[CardSharp]

can you remind me of the last time communism or socialism was moral ? Capitalism is the only system that has worked till now, those who dont want to do anything in life just need an excuse to cry and blame others.

Let's not be smug. India with its capitalism killed every 8 years, the equivalent a "great leap forward" the worst famine cause by communism.

Quote Amartya Sen.

"India seems to manage to fill its cupboard with more skeletons every eight years than China put there in its years of shame," (Dreze and Sen).

Drèze, Jean and Sen, Amartya, Hunger and Public Action. Oxford: Clarendon Press. 1989.



Noam Chomsky @ 2:30

 

[below_freezing]

can you remind me of the last time communism or socialism was moral ? Capitalism is the only system that has worked till now, those who dont want to do anything in life just need an excuse to cry and blame others.

The great capitalist experiment in India alone has killed more than all of communism combined in the same timeframe. The most important thing is that all communist nations, if they did suffer famine, will only suffer it ONCE and only at an early stage of development. Capitalist nations like India and Ethiopia suffer repeated famines. Add in the millions killed by British and American capitalism in Africa, Latin America, Asia, even North America, and we can see that the only good of capitalism is that it allows the ultrarich to pour their money into weapons research to further step on the poor.

 

[longbrained]

The great capitalist experiment in India alone has killed more than all of communism combined in the same timeframe. The most important thing is that all communist nations, if they did suffer famine, will only suffer it ONCE and only at an early stage of development. Capitalist nations like India and Ethiopia suffer repeated famines. Add in the millions killed by British and American capitalism in Africa, Latin America, Asia, even North America, and we can see that the only good of capitalism is that it allows the ultrarich to pour their money into weapons research to further step on the poor.

One is reminded of union carbide. Tens of thousands of poor Indians are still suffering from chemical injuries. They get just pittance and many even nothing since "master race" which owned the plant says so. In contrast when "master race" got its own version of events just afew thousand times smaller in human tally in Gulf of Mexico, they made the other "master race" to pay tens of billions of dollars to the first "master race". All the while the slave race in Indian democratic capitalism is still trying to cope with effects of chemicals.

 

[longbrained]

Here is an Aljazeera report on the same subject:

 

[saleen_s7]

No body is talking about communism or socialism here. We are talking about death of WESTERN capitalism based on wars and stealing other nations wealth while killing indigenous population. The alternative is a mixed economy with government regulations in which people work hard for their life and not stealing from other nations.

Capitalism is not an ideal system, but out of all the ones that have been discovered so far, it has proven to be the most effective and productive. You can go rant all you want about the negatives of capitalism, but can you dispute the idea that capitalism has pulled out more people off poverty than any other system in history? The problem with hard left and the far right parties are that they are too idealistic and try reach perfection, but human nature or greediness always get in the way. Without incentive, there would be no development.
I agree with some of the claims and I do think America is moving out of capitalism and moving more towards corporatism.

 

[longbrained]

Capitalism is not an ideal system, but out of all the ones that have been discovered so far, it has proven to be the most effective and productive. You can go rant all you want about the negatives of capitalism, but can you dispute the idea that capitalism has pulled out more people off poverty than any other system in history? The problem with hard left and the far right parties are that they are too idealistic and try reach perfection, but human nature or greediness always get in the way. Without incentive, there would be no development.
I agree with some of the claims and I do think America is moving out of capitalism and moving more towards corporatism.

No it is not. In Pakistan people believe Islam to be superior to capitalism. In China they believe communism has helped to bring out more than one billion people out of the poverty caused by British capitalist empire. So your rants are meaningless here. You are ranting here to protect the dying capitalism of UK but unfortunately for you, ranting can never save it. But I really liked your rant above that senior citizens should be frozen to death to save money for the billionaires. That was a good rant.

 

[saleen_s7]

No it is not. In Pakistan people believe Islam to be superior to capitalism. In China they believe communism has helped to bring out more than one billion people out of the poverty caused by British capitalist empire. So your rants are meaningless here. You are ranting here to protect the dying capitalism of UK but unfortunately for you, ranting can never save it. But I really liked your rant above that senior citizens should be frozen to death to save money for the billionaires. That was a good rant.

When my opponent in an argument resorts to ad hominem, I consider it a victory.