16th December 1971: From East Pakistan to Bangladesh

[Bilal9]

@Bilal9


I thought all Biharis had already been offered BD citizenship but some of the elders are refusing as they think of themselves as Pakistani?

Recently BD government announced that they will start moving Biharis out of their slums and into apartments that they could afford.

I do not see what else BD can do for them.

The past has been forgotten and they will be given all the assistance to become normal BD citizens with all the rights and responsibilities of any other BD'shis.

The older folks won't be around much longer.

Younger Biharis don't even identify as Biharis (I am sure they speak Urdu at home though). If the children of Biharis are born in Bangladesh, they are Bangladeshi by birth. They all speak Bangla and are indistinguishable from a local Bangladeshi person.

That is how it should be.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Day Bangalis started killing west Pakistanis and Bihari, is the day Operation search light found it’s justification. PA did what any other Army would have done in-face of, open conspiracy, insurgence and treachery.

 

[UKBengali]

Day Bangalis started killing west Pakistanis and Bihari, is the day Operation search light found it’s justification. PA did what any other Army would have done in-face of, open conspiracy, insurgence and treachery.

This is so boring and illogical.

Mujib was the leader of Pakistan after winning a free and fair election and BD was the dominant group and so it was in essence Pakistan. West Pakistani military was an armed outfit at that stage that was committing terrorist acts against the rightful Prime Minister of Pakistan and so was the one in the wrong.

 

[Genghis khan1]

This is so boring and illogical.

Mujib was the leader of Pakistan after winning a free and fair election and BD was the dominant group and so it was in essence Pakistan. West Pakistani military was an armed outfit at that stage that was committing terrorist acts against the rightful Prime Minister of Pakistan and so was the one in the wrong.

If he was a leader than he should have stop the killing of West Pakistanis and cooperated with law enforcement to brought the culprits to justice. Instead he conspired and instigate to take advantage for his political benefit.

 

[Bilal9]

This is so boring and illogical.

Mujib was the leader of Pakistan after winning a free and fair election and BD was the dominant group and so it was in essence Pakistan. West Pakistani military was an armed outfit at that stage that was committing terrorist acts against the rightful Prime Minister of Pakistan and so was the one in the wrong.

If he was a leader than he should have stop the killing of West Pakistanis and cooperated with law enforcement to brought the culprits to justice. Instead he conspired and instigate to take advantage for his political benefit.

Conspiring went on - on both sides, more or less. How many in West Pakistan establishment would have supported a Bengali Prime Minister ascending to power for all of Pakistan at that time?

The military establishment (i.e. represented by Yahya Khan) and Bhutto was not going to let this happen. They were determined, Bhutto made a trip to Dhaka in 1971 to 'negotiate' right before 'Operation searchlight' went live in March of that year, it was a foregone conclusion what was going to happen.

Embassies and foreign missions started evacuating their personnel from Dhaka way before this. They knew.

Those who say 'Bengalis triggered it' are just trying to prop up scapegoats.

And why are we re-hashing this topic after 50 odd years? Who cares? Any finger-pointing is pointless.

Bhutto and Mujib have both been dead and six feet under for 40/50 years...

 

[JohnWick]

Conspiring went on - on both sides, more or less. How many in West Pakistan establishment would have supported a Bengali Prime Minister ascending to power for all of Pakistan at that time?

The military establishment (i.e. represented by Yahya Khan) and Bhutto was not going to let this happen. They were determined, Bhutto made a trip to Dhaka in 1971 to 'negotiate' right before 'Operation searchlight' went live in March of that year, it was a foregone conclusion what was going to happen.

Embassies and foreign missions started evacuating their personnel from Dhaka way before this. They knew.

Those who say 'Bengalis triggered it' are just trying to prop up scapegoats.

And why are we re-hashing this topic after 50 odd years? Who cares? Any finger-pointing is pointless.

Bhutto and Mujib have both been dead and six feet under for 40/50 years...

Operation search light was against that brain washed ignorant self doubted armed anti national terrorists.

 

[Bilal9]

Operation search light was against that brain washed ignorant self doubted armed anti national terrorists. View attachment 644826

Dude you're itching to start a pointless troll fight.

No one (least of all me) has time for this.

I'm sorry but you will be reported.

 

[Cliftonite]

We Pakistanis should accept our fault. Mujib deserved to be the prime minister. Why the establishment, for their own greed, broke the country in half still baffles me.

I mean the constant antagonistic attitude of Bangladeshis towards Pakistan annoys me, but I still feel 71 was the biggest tragedy in Pakistan's history. Yahya and Bhutto should have been hanged right then.

 

[Destranator]

Operation search light was against that brain washed ignorant self doubted armed anti national terrorists. View attachment 644826

It was definitely sold as such to Pakistanis but not executed that way. Mainly civilians were killed.

We Pakistanis should accept our fault. Mujib deserved to be the prime minister. Why the establishment, for their own greed, broke the country in half still baffles me.

I mean the constant antagonistic attitude of Bangladeshis towards Pakistan annoys me, but I still feel 71 was the biggest tragedy in Pakistan's history. Yahya and Bhutto should have been hanged right then.

If you go back and reflect, the "attitude" you see is always in response to insults. Bangladeshis in this forum rarely bring 1971 up on their own. We all understand that the Pakistani people are not responsible. Heck most of you do not even know what happened.

 

[Cliftonite]

It was definitely sold as such to Pakistanis but not executed that way. Mainly civilians were killed.


If you go back and reflect, the "attitude" you see is always in response to insults. Bangladeshis in this forum rarely bring 1971 up on their own. We all understand that the Pakistani people are not responsible. Heck most of you do not even know what happened.

I agree to some extent. But some of your staunch AL members attack Pakistan unprovoked.

 

[JohnWick]

Dude you're itching to start a pointless troll fight.

No one (least of all me) has time for this.

I'm sorry but you will be reported.

Don't get it personal, its 50 years now.
Anyway your post is reported for trolling.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Operation search light was justified.... Pak army done the right thing to clean his land from man prepared traitors....It was the last chance to clean the Bengalis blood.

Shouldn't have failed then ?

Bengali blood is still not "clean".....

Won't be clean until we stop speaking Bangla, Eh?

Too bad then, because we will never stop speaking Bangla, our nation was here before all of you and will continue to be here after you, we will outlast you.

 

[JohnWick]

Shouldn't have failed then ?

Now bengali blood is not "clean".....

Yup they still consider you an inferior race

https://twitter.com/x/status/1279447708588101633

Shouldn't have failed then ?

Bengali blood is still not "clean".....

Won't be clean until we stop speaking Bangla, Eh?

Too bad then, because we will never stop speaking Bangla, our nation was here before all of you and will continue to be here after you, we will outlast you.

Dear, I am from Seraiki origin Punjab I speak both the languages just like all other Pakistanis....Urdu was just applied to make communication between different languages like blochi pashto sindhi punjabi seraki and bengali....just like English serves as an international language all across the world.... There was nobody to stop you from speaking Bengali....It is an other thing that many words of urdu starting with Arrhe Zhe Zay you can not speak like your Indian cousins.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Yup they still consider you an inferior race

https://twitter.com/x/status/1279447708588101633

Dear, I am from Seraiki origin Punjab I speak both the languages just like all other Pakistanis....Urdu was just applied to make communication between different languages like blochi pashto sindhi punjabi seraki and bengali....just like English serves as an international language all across the world.... There was nobody to stop you from speaking Bengali....It is an other thing that many words of urdu starting with Arrhe Zhe Zay you can not speak like your Indian cousins.View attachment 653992

Perhaps, it may be so, but we wanted Bangla as the second national language of the second pakistan, it's only logical.


Our language and culture is like our religion, surely you guys knew that ?

 

[JohnWick]

Perhaps, it may be so, but we wanted Bangla as the second national language of the second pakistan, it's only logical.


Our language and culture is like our religion, surely you guys knew that ?

The official language still use in Courts Banks military ISPR government departments like education health Forrest Agriculture is English....All the notifications and proceedings are done in English.... before partition, some films and song were made in Urdu language that's all..... the official language was English which is the most spoken language of all the world hundreds of different nation spokes that language even Chinese.
And as far as culture is concerned the Saree is still the official dress of Pakistani Army female officers....
Bengalis culture was studies in details in Pakistan Studies books all across theethe Pakistan....You can see old pak studies books which were taught before 1971....Just like all the different cultures of Pakistan is taught in Pak studies....
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