15 facts about 'failed state' Pakistan

[Paan Singh]

And you are suffering from a severe form of inferiority complex.

so wat special u have???so that i can bust u..........

 

[Windjammer]

No, deep down your throat you believe and feels the necessity to prove that you dont belong to a failed state.

Guess what, the guy opens a thread about the potential of Pakistan, and who does he attract,
No prizes for guessing ... but hey, did some one say, honey always draws flies or something.

 

[PoKeMon]

indians are passive, as in weak - why do they never retaliate even when they are being beaten.

so you too are firm believer of martial race concept. any how its off topic but try to find the boxing/wrestling match result between ind and pak of recent asian or commonwealth games.
I am off with your so "martial race" mentality. We indians are not a firm believer of aggressive approach all time and believe in system and laws and we have won many fights on table of diplomacy. But history will tell you when we act aggressive it becomes difficult for countries to keep their size intact. period

 

[xTra]

Guess what, the guy opens a thread about the potential of Pakistan, and who does he attract,
No prizes for guessing ... but hey, did some one say, honey always draws flies or something.

When the guy himself goes off topic, the thread will also go the same way.

 

[53fd]

Think about it:

Would it not be more prudent to have a working deep sea port with annual tonnage transfers in the top ten in the world before boasting of having the world's largest deep sea port lying idle?

It's not lying idle though:

March 2008:

Pos Glory, the biggest bulk vessel to berth alongside a Pakistani port, departed safely after the successful completion of discharge of the wheat cargo. Just couple of weeks ago, PSA Gwadar International Terminals in Pakistan received its first commercial cargo vessel and that signified its readiness to service more general cargo and container vessels at its deep-water berths. The inaugural call was made by Pos Glory carrying 64,000 metric tons of wheat and drawing a draft of 12.5 metres.

Commercial activities resume in Gwadar | Newspaper | DAWN.COM

That is my point: this national trait of premature congratulations merely provides an insight into inner insecurity.

You seriously fail at logic. What does being the deepest sea port in the world have to do anything with its operations, or how it's operating? Why are you being so insecure?

 

[KS]

And you are suffering from a severe form of inferiority complex.

Bahhhh.Ok

BTW it was a white man, who phoned up your president and said those famous words - Do it or we '' bomb you back to stone age" and the rest as they say is history. It was also a white man who shot two Pakistanis smack in the middle of the road and your Govt ultimately paid for his return trip. So next time choose your words carefully so that they don't come back to hit you.

The same way, when Pakistanis post non-Pakistani links (or Western sources) about India's extreme poverty, it's not the Pakistanis that are saying that to India. But the Indians feel like they have to respond to the Pakistanis.

But even they dont call India a failed state and I believe the topic is about failed state.

so you too are firm believer of martial race concept. any how its off topic but try to find the boxing/wrestling match result between ind and pak of recent asian or commonwealth games.
I am off with your so "martial race" mentality. We indians are not a firm believer of aggressive approach all time and believe in system and laws and we have won many fights on table of diplomacy. But history will tell you when we act aggressive it becomes difficult for countries to keep their size intact. period

Read this link mate.

 

[PoKeMon]

Guess what, the guy opens a thread about the potential of Pakistan, and who does he attract,
No prizes for guessing ... but hey, did some one say, honey always draws flies or something.

Sorry to say but his sole motto was to defend Pak from being tagged as "failed state" and the very cause of creation of this thread is desperation to get rid of this tag.
Its upto you how you take the thread......potential of pak or the potential which got wasted.

 

[53fd]

Sorry to say but his sole motto was to defend Pak from being tagged as "failed state" and the very cause of creation of this thread is desperation to get rid of this tag.
Its upto you how you take the thread......potential of pak or the potential which got wasted.

Just like Indians create threads here about reduction in poverty in India to defend India from being tagged as a "s***" & the very cause of creation of those threads is desperation to get rid of this tag.

 

[VCheng]

It's not lying idle though:

March 2008:



Commercial activities resume in Gwadar | Newspaper | DAWN.COM



You seriously fail at logic. What does being the deepest sea port in the world have to do anything with its operations, or how it's operating? Why are you being so insecure?

Please compare this "largest deep sea port" in the world with these figures, and you will see that it is IDLE by COMPARISON:

Top 15 Largest Seaports of the World
rank name of port country total cargo (metric tons) 2008 2009
1. Shanghai China 582,000,000 590,000,000
2. Ningbo-Zhoushan China 520,100,000 570,000,000
3. Singapore Singapore 474,076,000 434,500,000
4. Rotterdam Netherlands 421,100,000 387,000,000
5. Tianjin China 355,900,000 380,000,000
6. Guangzhou China 344,300,000 364,000,000
7. Qingdao China 300,300,000 315,500,000
8. Qinhuangdao China 249,950,000 243,850,000
9. Hong Kong China 259,402,000 242,967,000
10. Busan South Korea 222,364,000 208,100,000
11. Dalian China 185,200,000 203,700,000
12. Shenzhen China 211,200,000 194,000,000
13. Nagoya Japan 200,652,000 184,000,000
14. Rizhao China 151,000,000 181,300,000
15. Port Hedland Australia 130,707,208 159,390,660

Hundreds of millions of tons vs a few hundred thousand tons (at the most). I rest my case.

 

[PoKeMon]

The road network to Gwadar is the major impediment to the project right now, & yes the road network is being developed. What more can they do? Should they stop developing the road network to Gwadar & completely throw away the project & waste hundreds of million dollars? When something good is being done, why do people have to be critical of it as if nothing is happening.

Do anybody saying that even if pak genuinely keep trying to do some good it will still be a failed state?
We are discussing the present which is the result of past. Develop gwadar and it will boost the pak economy but till that happen dont be hyperexcited to have such a port, no matter how big it is.

 

[PoKeMon]

Just like Indians create threads here about reduction in poverty in India to defend India from being tagged as a "s***" & the very cause of creation of those threads is desperation to get rid of this tag.

Exactly.
Poverty prevails here in India and anyone denying it lives or want to be lived in state of denial.

 

[Poison]

Stop calling India weak !! Its Pakistan whose sovereignty is being abused by USA !! Drone attack killed 16 innocent people but can a weak Pakistan do anything??

 

[53fd]

And VCheng, IND_PAK & all the other people in this thread, this is what I said on Post # 7 of this thread:

I have pointed out to two things in my post. The first one is what the Pakistani nation has already achieved, & while there is still a lot of room for improvement, we have done reasonably well in many things (points 5-16). The second one is what the Pakistani nation is capable of achieving, in terms of untapped natural resources. This country has everything it needs, people need to start working for it more, and there are many people that do that everyday. If you think about Palestine-Israel's war, or many other international conflicts, they come down to the fight for water, natural resources etc. Pakistan is blessed with all of these in great abundance, & it needs to make appropriate use of it.

How is that for logic VCheng? Who's being insecure now?

 

[VCheng]

And VCheng, IND_PAK & all the other people in this thread, this is what I said on Post # 7 of this thread:



How is that for logic VCheng? Who's being insecure now?

It is this part:

we have done reasonably well in many things (points 5-16).

that is typical of premature congratulations. Gwader is point 14.

 

[53fd]

Please compare this "largest deep sea port" in the world with these figures, and you will see that it is IDLE by COMPARISON:

Top 15 Largest Seaports of the World
rank name of port country total cargo (metric tons) 2008 2009
1. Shanghai China 582,000,000 590,000,000
2. Ningbo-Zhoushan China 520,100,000 570,000,000
3. Singapore Singapore 474,076,000 434,500,000
4. Rotterdam Netherlands 421,100,000 387,000,000
5. Tianjin China 355,900,000 380,000,000
6. Guangzhou China 344,300,000 364,000,000
7. Qingdao China 300,300,000 315,500,000
8. Qinhuangdao China 249,950,000 243,850,000
9. Hong Kong China 259,402,000 242,967,000
10. Busan South Korea 222,364,000 208,100,000
11. Dalian China 185,200,000 203,700,000
12. Shenzhen China 211,200,000 194,000,000
13. Nagoya Japan 200,652,000 184,000,000
14. Rizhao China 151,000,000 181,300,000
15. Port Hedland Australia 130,707,208 159,390,660

Hundreds of millions of tons vs a few hundred thousand tons (at the most). I rest my case.

Again, you're talking about the operation of the port in terms of total cargo (metric tons). I am looking at a completely different parameter: the depth, not the operation of the sea port. You're confusing a lot of things here, I suggest you think a little before you post. I never called Gwadar the best deep sea port in the world, I was talking about its depth in meters. And also read Post # 163.