Off course India will add more, because it has a population that is almost 6 times bigger than Pakistan's. Pakistan needs to initiate reforms and grow on its own terms, it will act as a stabilizer for the region. Pakistan's growth is essential for the region because acts as a deterrent against the hegemonic designs of India.
I think you went on a tangent. Because India has a population 6 times bigger does not mean that the percentage growth rate of India will be more than Pakistan! I hope you get this logic.
India has a higher growth
rate than Pakistan. India has a higher growth rate than Pakistan because the economic fundamentals of India are sound, unlike Pakistan's.
This gives more resources to India compared to Pakistan each year, year on year. This creates disparity, and will show huge differences over sustained periods of time - like a decade!
Pakistan's growth or lack of it makes no difference to any other South Asian state as Pakistan is not connected to anyone barring Afghanistan. And we all know how much a stabilizing influence Pakistan has been in Afghanistan!
Cold Start has been pretty much thrown on the back burner. PA has effectively nullified the Cold Start Doctrine with its superior mobilization, increased mechanization, increased emphasis on accuracy and a complete network centric warfare environment. Madrassa students don't need to enter the war zone as PA Armour is good enough to create a kill box for any advancing Indian Armour
. Destroying Pakistan Army is just a wet dream that is being hypothesized in India for the last 60 years, so far it has failed.
Well, India did succeed in splitting up Pakistan quite successfully. We reap many benefits because of that today. So i dont hear the '60 year try' as a fail.
Pakistan will always have superior mobilization because of Pakistan's geography. Having very low depth and longer length essentially means its easy for Pakistan Army to dash to the border.
What it does not mean is that India's investment in its economy and military will mean that simply running to the border would mean that they field better equipment. India spending on its military over the decades has meant that today Pakistan is in no position to even launch a limited incursion in India. And while it means status quo right now, the same trends that have made Pakistani Army from an offensive or even a limited offensive force to an entirely defensive force, have not stopped. The same trends continue - Pakistan stuck in an economic doldrums while India keeps adding.
I hope you understand this point, and that India is adding forces in a manner that Pakistan cannot even match in technology, let alone being able to match in weapon for weapon. And these trends will only intensify, not weaken.
I think its time now that Indians come down back to Earth and stop living in this Utopian World. You need to stop pretending to be scary, because believe me you are not. You might scare Nepal, Bhutan or Bangladesh but you are certainly not scaring Pakistan here. After all this time, you should learn that India cannot bully or coerce Pakistan like it coerces her other neighbours. Even after these billions of dollars spent, India still lacks the muscle she requires to effectively disband Pakistan Army.
India cannot force Pakistan to disband its Army. That is not possible. Why would India want that. We want a pliable Pakistan. And that is slowly happening.
Do you know that when Pakistan wanted concessions on textiles from Europe, India had to give the final nod? Without India giving this to Pakistan, EU would not have agreed? These is but an instance of where things are headed. Do you hear Pakistani leaders talking about putting Kashmir on the backburner and going more for trade?
Why was it that before this, Pakistani leaders NEVER said that Kashmir should be put on the back burner, and trade would only come after Kashmir was solved. This is India getting what it wants from Pakistan - slowly - without using military means.
Or that Pakistan was totally against marking AGPL in Siachen while asking India to withdraw. What happened? If you are connected you would know that Pakistan has now agreed to sign the AGPL!
You might like to believe that Pakistan is absolutely immune from Indian pressure, but the truth is that Pakistan is
gradually becoming susceptible to Indian pressure. Give it another decade, you will see the manifestation of the trends right now.
True, we don't have the logistics and the manpower to conquer Delhi but if push comes to shove, we do have the fire power with our 100 nukes to turn entire India into ash. None of the other South Asian countries possess this power, we don't want to fight a nuclear war but if our existence is threatened, we will take it to the next level.
Take it to any level you want. If it comes to a shooting match, Pakistan Army is going to be pummeled badly. Much more so than IA. Nukes donot give you any cover. Otherwise there is much that should not be happening in Pakistan, yet it is.
We are seeing, Musharraf was able to turn the economy around in 2 years and from a growth of 3% in 2002, it was growing at a rate of 8% in 2004. Anyone who is familiar with the Pakistani economy knows that growth of 6-7% is not hard for a country like Pakistan. Even in the midst of a civil war we are growing at a rate of 3.7%, and in the future it is only expected to go even up. Hopefully once this useless PPP Government is ousted, we will see better governance and economic growth.
Would you like me to give very comprehensive links on how many Pakistani experts say that the statistics that were coming out from Pakistan under Musharraf were nothing less than falsifications? Or that international agencies were also questioning the credibility of Pakistani stats?
While you can hope and dream, I donot see Pakistani economy coming back up before 2020. And that gives India over 2 decades of advantage over Pakistan.
They may not, but once they see the reality they will also learn to fall in line. India lacks the muscle she requires to punish Pakistan, whatever damage India can cause Pakistan, Pakistan can reciprocate with exact ferocity.
Really? Pakistan can not reciprocate with the exact ferocity is exactly the point. Unless Pakistan jumps straight to the nukes, Pakistan is starting to lag behind in the arms race. Its capacity to dish out is not equal to what it will recieve in a shooting war.
You people are that thick headed that you fail to realize that you are effectively encircled. Pakistan has check mated you on your West and the Chinese have check mated you on your East and North. You might be building up a port in Myanmar but are you out investing the Chinese over there, not by a long shot. The Chinese will never tolerate increased Indian presence inside Burma. The only place where you can grow is to the sea, and that is why we can see the emphasis on building up the Indian Navy.
Notorious Eagle, research before you talk. India has enormous influence in Myanmar. While you hope that Chinese will never 'Indian presence in Burma' the fact is that India already has considerable influence in Burma. The Generals of Myanmar are now very very wary of China, and coupled with the fact that India is now providing arms to Burma - in defiance of EU laws - like the British Islander surveillance plane, among trucks, tanks, arty, coupled with Syu Ki's release and active participation in Burma - we are second only to China and not too far behind.
As for our coup -de -grace , it has been India who arranged the meeting between Hillary Clinton and Burma, effectively adding US on India's side in supporting Myanmar which also effectively ended Myanmar's isolation from the West.
Our East is wide open to our influence and route. BD and Myanmar are both under very high levels of Indian influence. India is building a port and road from that port to our NE. So before you rant on how China will deny us anything, read beforehand on those countries.
As much as it pains me to say this but, the Chinese have played a grand stroke here. They have effectively blocked you from gaining access to Central Asia due to your belligerent attitude towards Pakistan, and they are in line to reap the rewards now. What you fail to realize is, the Chinese are your real competitors due to their size and proximity but they have effectively checked India through Pakistan by forcing the Indians to focus most of her military assets against Pakistan. India has realized this and that is why India despite all her set backs has a genuine desire to improve relations with Pakistan now. Its funny how geo-political turn of events make nations change their egoistic ways.
The only place, where we lack physical access is Central Asia.
And do you know why? Its not because of China. China has no capacity to block us.
It is because of US. What we need from Central Asia is resources. And contrary to what you believe, it is not feasible to bring heavy metals all the way from Afghanistan and Central Asia via a rail line through Pakistan. These things need ports for metal evacuation considering the distance.
And as long as US continues to isolate Iran, we cannot access those minerals. The day US stops imposing sanctions on Iran, our route to Central Asia is wide open!
And as for as military assets go. You realize that a fight for survival with China is not possible. We have the mountains up north which remove any possibility of massed war. The only pockets are in East and North.
And India's new procurements in the last 2 -3 years are all geared towards China. That even includes the Apaches! The gunships that would have been most handy in destroying Pakistani armour, they are going to be stationed in the East. That should give you more than a clue.
Get over yourself. The only reason why India is succeeding in improving economic relations with Pakistan is because there is a genuine desire in Pakistan to improve relations with India. People in Pakistan have realized that improving relations with India is going to be beneficial for them because trade based on reciprocity will pay massive dividends to the Pakistani society. India can only dream of hurting Pakistan economically because the products that Pakistan imports from India are mostly low value added and can be easily substituted from other nations. India exports more to Pakistan than it imports, any halt in trade will be unfavourable to Indian traders and not Pakistani.
This is a classic case. Pakistan does not import high value goods from India because of restrictions. The day MFN is granted and trade thrown wide open without restrictions, within a decade Pakistan would be importing all kinds of high value and high technology products from India.
This is exactly the reason why Pakistan Army has stopped Pakistan from trading with India without restrictions till date. They realize this.
However, what do you think has made Pakistani people and politicians feel that trade with India would better their lives and country? They didnt feel this before for 60 years, why now?
Its because they see and hear from newspapers and first hand, that India is growing fast, India is bettering itself. Had India not been economically growing, there would have been no change from what Pakistani's - public and polity - thought as before.
Do you see a 360 degree effect that India growing economically is having on Pakistan. Do
Keep dreaming, your not the US. You have a long way to go before you reach that stature.
India is not the US. We are trying to grow.
Do you see a 360 degree effect that India growing economically is having on Pakistan. Do you realize that Pakistan Army is already under severe stress in letting go the amount of budget it takes from Pakistan for just maintaining the current lopsided balance? A balance in which Pakistan Army cannot even execute limited incursions in India, that they did in the 65 as well as 71 wars?
Indian military today enjoys equipment and resources that PA can no longer fight in Indian territory.
And yet, India continues to grow more - put more money in economy, infrastructure as well as military. Putting even more pressure on PA to not let go of the ridiculously high percentage of budget it takes from Pakistan's national budget. You are caught in a classic bind. And we are pulling much further ahead of you.
