You want that Army should start sharing its internal accountability processes and results with you?
Bhai why are you making it like that I want a hand written letter from Bajwa with 2 heart emoji and 3 khopra candy ? I am asking that Institution' is failing to do its job hence someone has to be held accountable, and leadership has to come up and explain themselves because they are public servants.
As i said, and am not forgetting as you are alleging, that army is accountable to public and civil institutions. All i am asking is why does not the public reps, who are sitting in the parliament, call the COAS every week in parliament to give them an update on what ever they want. Why dont these public reps make a body and visit Balochistan, see every area for themselves, see the SOPs, see everything and then make up their own opinion about what is to be done?
Public representatives are corrupt and don't do their jobs, so just because Civilian reps are not good Army will be bad to ? Pakistani people have high hopes from Army as they see them as protectors of Pakistan, lately they are not living up to the standards, and its not because the Army itself is becoming less patriotic but the top leadership is busy in things which they can easily avoid and focus on protecting Pakistan from enemies outside and within.
Nowhere did i admit that there has been a failure in army as an institution.
I never said that...
The way you are saying that why drones were not in air or why no air support...its not a computer game going on where all the assets are standing on a nearby base, ready to go in the air, everything ready...just waiting for an order....like you are alleging that no one called for them.
I understand that its not a game, but even in real life... lets see there are many many attacks just by BLA and Terrorists in Balochistan, very similar tactics has been used in these attacks and our soldiers were caught in open without any cover, and time and time again they found themselves fighting for their dear life without any backup arriving on time, how many times the backup arrives and how many times backup didn't arrive? So what you are saying that no one did call for Air support? lets see both options here..1) They did call for the Air support, what happened ? did it reach on time? even if the Air support failed to reach on time, why can't we hunt the terrorists down at least, and make sure no one ran back alive, 2) They did not call for Air support, this means our soldiers either not professional enough to know that when they need to call for help, or they have no Air support from base to begin with. Both situations are horrible to say the least. Bhai video games are not real life, here we have many lives at stake, few mins or 1 chopper can make a difference for our soldiers, for you saying they did this, they did that is easy... but think of the soldiers who were fighting on that posts, now just waiting for that impending death, and then what's worse is that there is no strong reaction from our Army, yes yes we know they are planning and they will do this or that, but thing is ground realities are giving a very heart breaking picture for the whole country. And here I must say this that I am disappointed at Pakistani awam as well, not a single Pakistani or Son of Soil has took the street in support of the Army, neither Balochi's that came out and say that now we will not give shelter to the Terrorists, Pakistani Awam just like its Political leadership and Army is morally dead.
And in the end, you are again saying the COAS is failing to question who are under him......is he supposed to tell you who all he has questioned and what all he has done?
Ok, that fair and let assume that he did question the Chain of Command, so I am now assuming he did it on the previous attack as well, and the attack before that so why there is no concrete results we can see on the ground ?
Am not skipping Ehsan ullah Ehsan, am not here to analyze each and all incidents which happened over the past twenty years....nor this thread is about other incidents. Lets remain relevant to this particular thread.
Yaar mere bhai you bring Judges releasing Terrorists, but so did Army..second Army called PTM like snakes Apne Bache, and BLA such Naraz bhai, when will our Army understand there are no apne bache or Naraz bhai or Baloch, they are terrorists and they will hit you with any chance they get. But lets not go there and I agree that's the topic for another thread if PDF allow it.
If smoking SOBs was that easy, then US would have smoked everyone in Korea, Vietnam, IRaq and Afghanistan...US would have been a winner then.
Now that's a different topic altogether, look US in Iraq and Afghanistan, although they left but they have destroyed these countries to a point where they are just done with, US killed Fighters with impunity and if you see by that Logic US did win, they protected their soldiers in a much hostile country and Pakistan can not even protect its own soldier in its own territory that says a lot about our Army did it not? Some would argue US was the Winner in all those wars, I don't but then who am i judge who win what war.
Kiyani was no dud, you only dont know what he has achieved
I actually know what he achieved that is why I called him a dud, he achieved nothing, just because we can not critcize the COAS when Army gets hit constantly so I will not give him credit for Rah-e-Rast, Ra-he-Nijat and khyber Operations.
