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10 captives, Over 20 soldiers, including Commanding Officer killed at Galwan border clash with China

4 Soldiers Critical After Ladakh Clash, Says Report; 20 Soldiers Killed
India blamed the clashes on "an attempt by the Chinese side to unilaterally change the status quo there", rebutting China's claims that Indian soldiers crossed the border.
All IndiaEdited by Deepshikha GhoshUpdated: June 17, 2020 12:30 pm IST

Indian and Chinese troops clashed at Galwan Valley in Ladakh. (File)

20 soldiers were killed in the fight at Galwan Valley in Ladakh. Army sources have told NDTV that up to 45 Chinese soldiers have been killed or injured in the incident.

An army statement on Tuesday morning confirmed the death of a Colonel and two jawans and spoke of "casualties on both sides". In another statement last evening, the army added that 17 more critically injured were "exposed to sub-zero temperatures... (and) succumbed to their injuries".

The army statement opened by saying Indian and Chinese troops "have disengaged" at the Galwan area where they earlier clashed on the night of June 15/16.

Agence France Presse quoted an Indian army source as saying the incident involved no shooting but "violent hand-to-hand scuffles". The soldiers threw punches and stones at each other and the Chinese troops allegedly used rods and nail-studded clubs during the fight that lasted for hours until midnight on Monday, according to reports.

China's defence ministry confirmed the incident had resulted in casualties but did not give details.

India blamed the clashes on "an attempt by the Chinese side to unilaterally change the status quo there", rebutting China's claims that Indian soldiers crossed the border.

"India is very clear that all its activities are always within the Indian side of the Line of Actual Control. We expect the same of the Chinese side," said foreign ministry spokesperson Anurag Shrivastava.
  • Since early May, hundreds of soldiers have been ranged against each other at three locations.

The two sides had been discussing ways to de-escalate but Monday's clashes erupted when Chinese troops turned on a group of Indian soldiers that included an officer.

A Chinese foreign ministry spokesman said there had been a serious violation of a consensus reached by the two countries. Indian soldiers "twice crossed the border line and provoked and attacked the Chinese forces, causing a violent physical confrontation between the two border forces," Zhao Lijian told reporters in Beijing.

Military experts say one reason for the face-off is that India has been building roads and airfields to improve connectivity and narrow the gap with China's infrastructure. At Galwan, India completed a road leading to an airfield last October. To China's objections, India said it was operating on its side of the Line of Actual Control.

India and China fought a brief but bloody border war in 1962 and there have been skirmishes after that, but no loss of life since 1975.

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You are clearly a great military expert with a lifetime of military service behind you, so help me to understand your statement. With the XV Corps and the XVI Corps of Northern Command facing Pakistan, and in Ladakh, with XVI Corps facing China, what is the difficulty that you foresee in focussing on both borders simultaneously? What is the equality that you imagine exists? And what are the consequences of opening both fronts?

Apart from brave chest-thumping that others indulge in, can you explain the numbers?

According to my CMP index, China should currently outclass India by a factor of more than three (figures for after 2015 are based on projections but this index don’t change cardinally over the course of a few years). That’s almost comparable to the fivefold differential between Pakistan and India.
 
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Yes .That is exactly what I said even if Chinese release some casuality numbers noone is going to belief
If we said none died, will you believe us? That's the figure floating around IN Chinese media, there were casualties no deaths. Alot of the Indians died due to surprise attack and jumping into the river. Chinese medics had proper access and helicopters arrived on time. That makes a difference. Bit if we said this officially, Modi will be forced to react and more will die.
 
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300 pages and 4 days later, many Indian members are still obsessed with the number of supposed Chinese causality, and are willing to pick whatever number that comforts them. It's this "bean-counting" bargain-basement Indianess, and the lack of strategic thinking at national level and among populace, that prevent India from becoming a true world class power.
 
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Is it ESCALATING as the media make it sound or DE-escalating?
 
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300 pages and 4 days later, many Indian members are still obsessed with the number of supposed Chinese causality, and are willing to pick whatever number that comforts them. It's this "bean-counting" bargain-basement Indianess, and the lack of strategic thinking at national level and among populace, that prevent India from becoming a true world class power.
These people are paranoid about saving face, living in denial and have a serious inferiority complex. I mean what matters is not how many Indians died, it's who won the friggin engagement, WHO CONTROLS PP14/15 NOW?
 
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China's putting the blame squarely on IA on breaking consensus. If India doesn't punish what remains of the soldiers that attacked the Chinese outpost, i'm sure China will take matter into their own hands.

They already did. Nothing much left to do, what escalation will there be?

we learn it from you since you joy every Pakistani death even corona cases and rejoice it . now face the same gift from us . yes we are happy to see Indians are beaten like dogs and killed . we never hide it . why not ? yes we see how USA make you paper tiger and let you die in-front of china .:lol: have any proof of chines death ? names official press or images videos ? all we see you beaten one chinese soldier they not only beat you but wipe out you company with a commanding officer colonel rank . its the truth of 17 june 2020 . now stay in auwqaat it will be better how long you will be red nose ? abhinandan episode shame is not yet washed and now this world is laughing on you .

Let us remember these words for the future. Thank you for being so candid.
 
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HELLO CHINESE !!!!
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INDIAN LIVES MATTER:laughcry::laughcry::laughcry:
 
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Folks i think China will militarily settle this issue. they will capture the whole ladakh valley since india did not leave any room to negotiate, after they declared it to be a union territory without consulting china..

India will pay a heavy price for its unilateral move and now china will take action..

lets see if 56 inch ka seena will do anything about it
 
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Moscow will remain neutral in the conflicts that have escalated in recent days between the DPRK and the Republic of Korea , as well as between India and China . This was made clear on Wednesday by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. But Moscow is always ready to develop peaceful cooperation with Asian countries. Given the current situation, it is primarily a joint struggle against the coronavirus pandemic and its consequences. During a video conference with colleagues from member countries of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), Sergey Lavrov announced the activation of the mechanism of interaction between military doctors, and also proposed to establish contacts between volunteer groups. In his opinion, this could become an instrument of “people's diplomacy”.

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4380506



 
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oo highest order of c***** ... why you keep bringing that road construction shit again and again? No ine give a **** about your shitty fake narrative... you guys poking nose in Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Srilanka and China’s internal matters now feel the heat of what you sow... you guys are ugly piece of shit in the region. No one accept your hegemony even Nepalis Kicking ur butts. Har taraf bund pangay letay ho aur jo jab wajti heh tu uwaan uwaan kartay USA apnay peo ke paas bhaagtay jo fatu salay shit nation on earth. Jab guts. Nahi hain larnay kay tu pangay kyo letay ho? jab fake dramay karogay surgical strikes walay tu u will get what u guys deserve. Last year Pakistani raped you in the broad day light. Entire world literally laughed on you and on the performance of your 2 takay ki mil in the 21st century. The way your fake modi media make gullible public chay****, entire world have seen that multiple times in the past so no one believes your POV and narrative about anything. Full of deception, forge, fake you guys are from top to bottom. You guys creating problem with the CPEC which is a strategic project of China for its next 50 years of its global projection. And you think you guys keep busy in sabotaging their projects and Chinese will sitting duck? They’re chinese not Indians. You got banged by Pakistani airforce when PAF jets rolling over your heads, your entire force was sitting duck and watching the rape scene of its own mil installations... ub Chinese hain kaka

Stop posting development development shit again and again... no one trust you...

Calm down.

The common theme of this thread is that the indians are spewing venom against Pakistan yet are finding justifications and excuses for the Chinese killing their soldiers.

ALL non-indians please note, indians NEVER answer questions properly and have a habit of discussing irrelevant points. If reality and the truth doesn't fit the beliefs and opinions of indians, they never accept it.

Do you have evidence for that?
 
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