Ababeel SSM - Pakistan gains MIRV technology.

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

Our 6th test was Thermonuclear

what the difference & benefit?

 

[Thorough Pro]

People are asking what's the point? I want to answer it, but keeping my past practice of not breaking any news prematurely, I won't. Intelligent members who are not just the fan boys will get it if they think about it in conjunction with last test.

This is amazing, super capability! I don't get whats the difference between this new missile and the Shaheen 3..
Shaheen is a longer range from what i remember, so whats the point in going back to a shorter range?
This is very interesting, and we are very Proud!!

 

[graphican]

Our 6th test was Thermonuclear

Interesting. Has there been an official announcement? I would want to know if it was that.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Just a piece of advice, don't be too obsessed with our "declared" ranges......

2200 km guys. Don't look at Iran oherwise i will *****

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Officially we never had any nukes. Our nuclear program was only for peaceful civilian purposes to benefit the mankind until May 11, 1998.

Why do we need to declare anything that is not needed to be declared?

Interesting. Has there been an official announcement? I would want to know if it was that.

 

[JamD]

I guess you mean Shaheen-2 as Shaheen 3 dia is greater than 1.4 m.
You are correct in your assumption that Ababeel carries three Shaheen-1A / Shaheen-3 size warheads.
No offence but if I give u a criteria, can you please run calculation again and check Shaheen 3 dia and more importantly the warhead size?
The Rim diameter of wheels used on Shaheen-3 TEL is 36 inches.
You can find high resolution picture of Shaheen 3 TEL and taking Rim as standard, calculate the rest? Plz.
You can find better images, but just to be clear this is what I meant.
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It comes out to be 1.5 m according to my calculations. You can just increase each measurement by 7% to correct for it. It is the relative size of Ababeel with respect to Shaheen 3 that matters.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Our goverment has to show more effort to get some missile tech from Pakistan !paid service or friendship .any how!
good job Pakistan

Turkey and Pakistan have much to gain from each other in joint ventures

 

[Safriz]

It comes out to be 1.5 m according to my calculations. You can just increase each measurement by 7% to correct for it. It is the relative size of Ababeel with respect to Shaheen 3 that matters.

Great. I came up with same 1.5 m for S-3 a while ago.
Can u please calculate size of S-3 warhead, now that we know the motor body is 1.5 m wide?

 

[Cookie Monster]

Well your post surely shows your class as an individual and the upbringing your parents gave you.

Yes his post may not be mature but instead of blaming him u should see how ur country men are belittling Pakistan's efforts/projects left and right...and not just in this case. It has been like this for every one of Pakistan's development. Indians are convinced that Pakistanis are incapable of progress. If any development happens it must have its origins in China or elsewhere. If u heard this same rhetoric over and over constantly after every demonstration of some capability, wouldn't u get annoyed? Eventually u would stop debating with facts bcuz they don't matter to the other side. Therefore trolling invites trolling.

 

[JamD]

Great. I came up with same 1.5 m for S-3 a while ago.
Can u please calculate size of S-3 warhead, now that we know the motor body is 1.5 m wide?

Like I said earlier, just multiply the measurements in my original post by 1.07.

 

[DesiWarrior]

Of course. Not so hard to find out mate
I just asked about it's warhead's features. Is it thermonuclear warhead?

It's capable of carrying nuclear warheads as stated by ISPR. So far, Pakistan has not disclosed any information that it's working on a thermonuclear capability.

 

[MilSpec]

Yes his post may not be mature but instead of blaming him u should see how ur country men are belittling Pakistan's efforts/projects left and right...and not just in this case. It has been like this for every one of Pakistan's development. Indians are convinced that Pakistanis are incapable of progress. If any development happens it must have its origins in China or elsewhere. If u heard this same rhetoric over and over constantly after every demonstration of some capability, wouldn't u get annoyed? Eventually u would stop debating with facts bcuz they don't matter to the other side. Therefore trolling invites trolling.

there is a report button on the bottom left corner. Use it. And no I am not blaming him, I am blaming his parents for not teaching him any better. Hope that clarifies it.

 

[Thorough Pro]

As I mentioned before,

Pewasta Reh Shajar Say, Umeed-e Bahar Rakh

There are many great news to follow..............

https://defence.pk/threads/successf...e-nuke-triad-club.471973/page-12#post-9105748

 

[Yaseen1]

smoke emission from missile should be reduced because it can help detect missile path if you look at russian satan missile you will notice that it emits very less smoke after launch

 

[Thorough Pro]

So kind of you to give us that much credit, actually they both are just a paper concept at this time.

Both Babur 3 and this missile are at initial development stages and these missiles take years to mature.

Pakistan makes tall claims, simple as that.

 

[Safriz]

Like I said earlier, just multiply the measurements in my original post by 1.07.

OK yara.
Here is your original diagram with corrections made. Your original figures in red. Multiplied by 1.07 in white.
Now that we know the the warhead to be fitted is 2.0 meter tall and 0.76 Meters wide.
How many can be fitted in a space 3.4 Meters tall and 1.8 Meters wide?
I am guessing there will be more than three.

Also if the RV is 5.14 meters tall ( warhead cowling 3.4 m + white bit at the bottom 1.74m) then the whole missile must be 20-21 meters tall.
The TEL which carries Topol is the same that carries Shaheen-3 . Topol is 22.7 m tall, so Ababeel can be easily carried by re-fitted Shaheen-3 TEL.