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SAC FC-31 Stealth Fighter: News & Discussions

Unless Korean, Japanese get their hands on actual stealth aircraft, managed to replicate the stealth and willing to invest in projects that doesn't guaranteed work, these concept arts will never get pass the drawing board. Russia and China underwent lots of failures, attempts and managed to obtain f117 wreckage with some stolen from b2 and f35 engineers via buying before they could get their stealth fighters to work.

Under Americans tight regulation over their allies, less likely Korea nor Japan could build their own stealth fighters. Americans would not let these allies building their own primary fighters and reject the f35s and f16s, mostly Lockheed products.

Best examples:
Taiwan AIDC Chingkuo was denied powerful f16 or f18 engines that they had to shrink their fighters to fit weak engines designed out of f5e. US done so to prevent Chingkuo from affecting f16 sales.
Israeli Lavi was forced to cancel when US threatened to cut off deals. The Lavi threatens f16s sales.

F-35 is coming !!! Next year F-35 would be assembled right in Japan.
Korea will get F35 too. Their pilots may under training for F-35 in USA now.

Both has their own project and both get real F-35 within one or two years.

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F-35 is coming !!! Next year F-35 would be assembled right in Japan.
Korea too. Their pilots may under training for F-35 in USA now.

Both has their own project and both get real F-35 within one or two years.

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2017 Japan and S.Korea won't build F-35 in home.

@BoQ77 Do u feel embarrassed when u provide wrong information & data in PDF ? and do that again and again and again ... how u feel those wrong in ur posts ? :tdown::tdown::tdown:



FlightGlobal: South Korea formally decides on 40 F-35As
South Korea’s official news agency quoting the nation’s joint chiefs of staff as saying that Seoul would buy 40 F-35As, with deliveries to start in 2018 .... pls tell us when F-35 would be assembled in S.Korea or Japan ???
 
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2017 Japan and S.Korea won't build F-35 in home.
.... pls tell us when F-35 would be assembled in S.Korea or Japan ???

The Japanese Final Assembly and Check Out assembly
facility is now complete withboth Electronic Mate Assembly Stations tools installed and accepted. Construction and installation activities remain on schedule, and the major components are now being shipped.The first Japanese F-35A is scheduled to rollout of the facility in November 2016.

Northrop Grumman completes center fuselage for first F-35 to be assembled in Japan
Northrop Grumman has completed – on budget and on schedule – the center fuselage for the first F-35 Lightning II aircraft to be assembled in Japan’s F-35 Final Assembly and Checkout (FACO) facility in Nagoya, Japan.


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The center fuselage, designated AX-5, is one of 42 center fuselages that Northrop Grumman will produce for Japan.

Northrop Grumman Completes Center Fuselage for First F-35 Aircraft to Be Assembled in Japan (NYSE:NOC)

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DUBAI: Customer sought for AVIC’s new stealth fighter
  • 08 NOVEMBER, 2015
  • BY: GREG WALDRON
  • SINGAPORE
Chinese airframer AVIC has delivered a shock at Dubai by revealing a surprising level of detail about its proposed FC-31 Gyrfalcon fifth-generation multi-role fighter, even though the type has yet to secure a launch customer.

The aircraft being promoted appears to be a follow-on development of the company’s J-31, a mysterious black fighter aircraft that appeared in at the flying display at Airshow China in Zhuhai last November. The J-31 had its first flight in 2012, but virtually no details have been publicly released.

In a Dubai press briefing, Gyrfalcon designer Lin Peng said the FC-31 is envisaged as a low-observable jet with “multi-spectrum, low-observability characteristics.”

The fighter will be capable of a range of missions, including offensive/defence counter air, deep strike, suppression of enemy air defences, interdiction, close air support, and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance.

In a video shown during the presentation, a squadron of FC-31s communicated with each other through secure datalinks. Another slide showed how the aircraft’s small cross section reduces the threat radius of enemy sensors and weapons.

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No details were given about the FC-31’s sensor suite or weapons, but AVIC says this equipment and communications equipment can be tailored to customer requirements.

The aircraft has six external hardpoints, with an internal weapons bay that can carry a further four munitions. Payload is 8,000kg (17,600lb), of which 2,000kg can be carried internally. Combat radius with internal weapons is 648nm (1,200km), and maximum take-off weight is 25,000kg (55,000lb).

The first flight of a production example is planned for 2019, followed by initial operating capability in 2022 and final operating capability three years' later.

AVIC’s disclosures were striking given the veil of secrecy that has covered the J-31 programme – at Zhuhai, company representatives flatly declined to discuss the aircraft or its performance characteristics.

Still, there is a great deal of mystery about the FC-31. AVIC did not allow time for a question and answer session after the briefing, obliging reporters to crowd around executives as they attempted to exit the chalet.

During this ad hoc Q&A it emerged that the FC-31 has yet to find a launch customer, although there are discussions with the Chinese air force. Executives also decline to comment on the engines that power the J-31, believed to be the Klimov RD-93s that power the RAC MiG-29, or the powerplants for the FC-31.

Achieving the first flight in 2019 is also contingent upon securing a "well-funded" customer, it says.

This piece of news has told us the timeline for FC-31 development:
2016: first prototype roll out(?)
2019: finalize the design
2022: IOC if it can find a launch customer before 2019
2025: FOC

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Hmmm ? With proper founding - in case of a customer - and a decent engine I would say it could be possible; maybe not FOC in 2025 but IOC; I would be more careful.

PS there seems to be a mistake in Your post, 2012 does not make sense.
 
Hmmm ? With proper founding - in case of a customer - and a decent engine I would say it could be possible; maybe not FOC in 2025 but IOC; I would be more careful.

PS there seems to be a mistake in Your post, 2012 does not make sense.

I'm a little confused with IOC, too. As you know, CAC has produced more than 48 J-10B for IOC test, and F-35 number is even larger; but for LCA, there is only a single digit number, maybe less than 4 for IOC test.
 
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any news updated as of now? Nearly 2 months without any updating for J31. Is it still alive?
 
any news updated as of now? Nearly 2 months without any updating for J31. Is it still alive?

Weather in Shenyang is too cold for wall climbers. That, plus the tighter security around the SAC site, means that there are fewer images of J-31s.
 
Weather in Shenyang is too cold for wall climbers. That, plus the tighter security around the SAC site, means that there are fewer images of J-31s.
All the countries start to develop their own 4th gen fighters. Without a viable customer, seems J31 no longer a priority.
 
judging by the comments here it seems J 31 program may take more time than expected,
I dont see the rush in this project the way ive seen in other Jets,

which is Sad cuz thats something id really love to see in Pakistan's Color.

Despite that its Great to see China making huge strides.
 
The 310 project was more of a private project by sac, I believe the PLANAF would be interested in a naval variant for the future carriers.
so if the j31/project 310 is a private project, then why is there reports of pakistani interest? or is it more of a technology demonstrator?
 
so if the j31/project 310 is a private project, then why is there reports of pakistani interest? or is it more of a technology demonstrator?
It is a private project of Shenyang Aircraft Corporation. If I remember correctly, FC-1 was also a private project between CAC and PAF, PLAAF was never involved.
 
In terms of 5th gen options the PAF doesn't have many other options outside of the FC-31. Taking pshamim's comment on PakDef about the PAF being interested in acquiring 60 "initially", it's possible the PAF is looking at the idea of co-funding the FC-31 quite seriously.
 
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