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Hejazis made a deal with the British, that’s why many Arab states got their king from Hejaz ( the traitors ).
 
What do you want me to reply? A user mentioned my name in that thread and I looked at it and read the replies. Then I decided to reply to things that I do not agree with by posting sources and giving another version of history that many were/are unfamiliar with. That was all.

No problem in that. No would have a problem with that.

Also why should I do that? As I told you, Arabs do not even think about that so-called "betrayal". I have noticed that only the Turks are obsessed with it. Ironically mostly nationalistic Turks. The same nationalistic Turks who abolished the Caliphate and made Turkey secular something they brag about often. Contradiction much? Why only focus on 1 revolt in 1 Arab region/province? How about speaking about Egypt that succeeded 100 years prior? Most of Yemen that succeeded at the very beginning in the 1500's or the Muslims of Balkan that rebelled? Why only the Arabs which were just a few thousand people?

Also forgetting about all the Arabs who sided with their oppressor (back then). As I told you there were no revolts in Hijaz prior to the Young Turks Movement getting the power since there were very few reasons for doing that. There was also self-rule much of the way.

Ok, but then how can you disagree with me then? If you agree with me?

IMO opinion Young Turk's nationalistic movement was a mistake. You can't do this in multi-ethnic Empire or else there would be consequences.

The things that tick of Turks are Arabs allying with Christians against us. That's it.
 
Hejazis made a deal with the British, that’s why many Arab states got their king from Hejaz ( the traitors ).

Had it not been for the Arab Revolt Iraq would still be a colony. Because unlike other parts of the Arab world you were completely ruled by foreigners. So who you call traitors have no influence at all.

No problem in that. No would have a problem with that.



IMO opinion Young Turk's nationalistic movement was a mistake. You can't do this in multi-ethnic Empire or else there would be consequences.

The things that tick of Turks are Arabs allying with Christians against us. That's it.

That's what I am trying to say. Don't blame Arabs in one province, when other Arabs and non-Arabs (Muslim and Christian) rose up long before due to the same reasons I mentioned. When empires fall it is ultimately due to faults usually.

The Umayyad, largest Caliphate and 5th biggest empire in the world, had similar nationalistic tendencies were Arabs were treated better than non-Arabs which became their downfall when the Abbasids got the throne and they started to treat everybody (Muslims) equally and that way the Islamic Golden Age started etc.

Well, Turks should not have a problem with that since most are liberals, seculars and Turkish nationalists and huge fans of Ataturk the same man who abolished the Caliphate so I find those views contradictory. Especially since Turkey has been a key ally with the West ever since.
 
Industrially speaking, we run local and internationally con-joined projects. We have no intention to introduce junk equipments just as much as India, Turkey, Malaysia, Singapore, and the UAE.

I dont see anything wrong in this statement..Yzd was trying to explain KSA`s defense industry development phase and he told that KSA has no intention to introduce junk equipments to its military arsenal just as much as India, Turkey etc have no such intentions..All these stupid childish nonsense arguments were for nothing..I can show tens of posts that Yzd praises Turkish defense products..

So, guys, chill
 
I dont see anything wrong in this statement..Yzd was trying to explain KSA`s defense industry development phase and he told that KSA has no intention to introduce junk equipments to its military arsenal just as much as India, Turkey etc have no such intentions..All these stupid childish nonsense arguments were for nothing..I can show tens of posts that Yzd praises Turkish defense products..

So, guys, chill

Yet your compatriot started to insult the second biggest ethnic group in the world for no reason which kickstarted this debate. For no reason whatsoever. The reaction would have been much harsher had an Arab written a similar post in the Turkish section. We all know this.

So you can't blame us for replying in a similar fashion to him.

I don't hate any people but I reply in the same manner as the ones who are insulting my people, country etc. I do the same against Arabs. Just look at this thread.
 
Had it not been for the Arab Revolt Iraq would still be a colony. Because unlike other parts of the Arab world you were completely ruled by foreigners. So who you call traitors have no influence at all.

Discussed already, central part of KSA was shit, no one wanted it.

Whatever the story is, they remain traitors.
 
I dont see anything wrong in this statement..Yzd was trying to explain KSA`s defense industry development phase and he told that KSA has no intention to introduce junk equipments to its military arsenal just as much as India, Turkey etc have no such intentions..All these stupid childish nonsense arguments were for nothing..I can show tens of posts that Yzd praises Turkish defense products..

So, guys, chill
Nobody has a problem with @Yzd Khalifa ,he is a realist and thinks before making a statement.
But this hollywood actor thinks he contributes to the topic with his history novels about Arab supremacy.
There is the difference!
 
Why are you mentioning these donkeys all the time, half of them are cretins, some are emotional.
I don’t bring the Safavids either.

If we manage in one way or another to turn all Iraqis to donkeys, just like the ones you were suggesting they are, including your entire family, I think Iraq would be better off, and shall prosper given the fact that there is nowhere safe to park your car at, the minute you get out of the house your heart should start ticking there. But I think Hospitals, funeral houses, and morgue might face a financial blowback due to the drastic decrease of violence.

We might consider adding up the genes of stupidity to make sure no progress is to be made in future as well.


@Arabian Legend @JUBA @Awadd @burning_phoneix @Bubblegum Crisis @Hadbani @Yzd Khalifa @BLACKEAGLE
 
If we manage in one way or another to turn all Iraqis to donkeys, just like the ones you were suggesting they are, including your entire family, I think Iraq would be better off, and shall prosper given the fact that there is nowhere safe to park your car at, the minute you get out of the house your heart should start ticking there. But I think Hospitals, funeral houses, and morgue might face a financial blowback due to the drastic decrease of violence.

We might consider adding up the genes of stupidity to make sure no progress is to be made in future as well.

Lol, making it personal & bringing family in, all that from a gov employee:partay: that’s child behavior.

@Abii @ResurgentIran

See, a Saudi lecturing me about terrorism.

Mentioning 2 Safavids equals 8 terrorists.
 
You did bring it to a personal, familial levels. Therefore, the response is quite legitimate.


See, a Saudi lecturing me about terrorism.

That's a fact!

I don't think that you need someone to lecture you. It no longer is a secret that Iraqis are killing one another. They even kill their own children, what else would you expect from them?


Lol, making it personal & bringing family in, all that from a gov employee:partay: that’s child behavior.

@Abii @ResurgentIran

See, a Saudi lecturing me about terrorism.

Mentioning 2 Safavids equals 8 terrorists.
 
Lol, making it personal & bringing family in, all that from a gov employee:partay: that’s child behavior.

@Abii @ResurgentIran

See, a Saudi lecturing me about terrorism.

Mentioning 2 Safavids equals 8 terrorists.

I would give a response but you have invited me into uncharted territory.
I, as a Safavid rafida pagan, can not be meddling in the Arab defence forum. :D
 
You did bring it to a personal, familial levels. Therefore, the response is quite legitimate.




That's a fact!

I don't think that you need someone to lecture you. It no longer is a secret that Iraqis are killing one another. They even kill their own children, what else would you expect from them?
"that's a fact"

Ahhh, the classic "that's a fact" statement on the internet.

My soosmarkhor friend, you need to clean the sand out of your eyes and take a close look at this graph.

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