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There's no need to deny it. Both sides are waging an intense propaganda war.
Just stating the obvious. Also not taking sides here. Just enjoying the schadenfreude because of this:

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Just stating the obvious. Also not taking sides here. Just enjoying the schadenfreude because of this:

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If you widen your sample range, you should also put a few Russians in the meme you are using. Other than that, I agree with you. Taking sides in this war is completely pointless. Countries like Pakistan and Turkey, should look at the issue only from within their own interests.
 
If you widen your sample range, you should also put a few Russians in the meme you are using. Other than that, I agree with you. Taking sides in this war is completely pointless. Countries like Pakistan and Turkey, should look at the issue only from within their own interests.
Just using as is from various sources, can't be bothered to edit :P

Here's another one:

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Russia is choking Kiev before an assault which will come in a few days or weeks. There is food shortage now a break down of even savagery as there criminal gangs armed the government operating, many cases of rapes and murders and empty shelves. The paranoid Ukrainian ill trained thugs are looking for "Russian spies" and shooting anyone, A Jew was shot mistaken for a Chechen because of the beard.


Photos Show Empty Grocery Store Shelves in Kyiv
 
I am deeply disappointed about Lavrov. I guessed that his talent was much higher. It's not just about this last statement, but I have the idea that for the last few months, the Russian political mind has stopped playing the game by its own rules and pulled into the environment and discourse the enemy wants.

I seem to understand both sides just fine.. Example you can't enter into the cave of an Animal and assume it will not defend itself with whatever it has.. Hence Lavrov is that Animal just warning others to not enter his cave
 

It was first... Ukraine is the third country occupied by Russia in the Black Sea.

A unilateral declaration of independence has already been made long before, under the protection of Russian soldiers. Even with regard to the Ukrainian war, it was said that the Russian troops in this region would support the Ukranian occupation. One of Russia's strategic goals is to get Transnistria out of the enclaved situation, either by subjugating Ukraine completely or dividing it on a north/south axis.
But do you think they will try to take the whole of Moldova or just link up with transnistria
 
I already told you I cannot start a religious debate upon slavery on this forum.

As far as the abolition of slavery is concerned, then at no point in the 1400 years of history of Islam it came anywhere near to abolition. But the numbers of slaves only increased under the Islamic rule, right from the beginning.

Here is the complete TIMELINE of abolition of Slavery. There were almost 200 notable movements against slavery in human history, but NOT even a SINGLE of them came from Islam and its followers.


I do not neccesary disagree with you, but not completeley agree with you either.

But i still, to my great fustration, often find these type of conversations futile because there are many factors to consider before one discuss the topic, and these are:

- Angle of perception
- Axioms
- Civilizational modus and priorities
- Nature of truth
- Nature of reality

By far the biggest challenge is that the modern western world is a atomized society while Islam and eastern civilizations are holistic. The recent burst of promenon and genderfluidity is precisely the product of atomization. It is also the reason why the west fails to penetrate islamic societies with its ideas. In many ways the western civilization is the youngest of all world civilizations and therefore its philosphies are also young and energetic but in a bigger picture its also foolish.

The western world is so dominant that its axioms are taken as default and universal, often even by well educated people, maybe even more so.
 
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