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don't lie...not hijab. they thought she was a refugee because she spoke arabic
Proof that there is no hijab problem in Turkey:
Pakistani Man Killed in Turkey with "Pig Tie" method
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Proof that there is no hijab problem in Turkey:
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Because they're Europeanized, white-washed people. Those Turks are even more controversial than Islamists for denying the atrocities that Kemalists committed.
By no means are they secular. Yes they want hijab out, but they don't want to condemn atrocities against non-Muslims or laws that were implemented to suppress them.
They want to instead deny it all happened.
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You are talking about Merve Kavakçı. It was 24 years ago. We left those dark days behind.
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Pakistan also had a similar problem. We've got upper class "secularists" mostly upper class Sindhis & Muhajirs and they confuse Europeanization with secularism.
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Oh I did not know this was pig tie, but when my son was younger 2 or 3 , I used to hold him like that and swing him
Turkish themselves try to escape to EU. The famous doner kebabs
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do Turkish people hate Pakistanis?...
no more than normal Pakistanis hate idiot Pakistanis who misbehave. ....
the truth the "hate" is spurred by illegal Pakistanis and afghans who behave like losers.. this is a Pakistan problem and gov of Pak needs to take ownership.
oh wait.. according to Imported gov the biggest problem in Pakistan is Imran Khan.. so sorry illegal Pakistanis you have a free hand.. keep doing your nasty behaviour ie tick tocking women , conduct crime , drugs, human trafficking etc you make PDM proud.
no more than normal Pakistanis hate idiot Pakistanis who misbehave. ....
the truth the "hate" is spurred by illegal Pakistanis and afghans who behave like losers.. this is a Pakistan problem and gov of Pak needs to take ownership.
oh wait.. according to Imported gov the biggest problem in Pakistan is Imran Khan.. so sorry illegal Pakistanis you have a free hand.. keep doing your nasty behaviour ie tick tocking women , conduct crime , drugs, human trafficking etc you make PDM proud.
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GUYS WTF is debate is going on, Some one or group of people commit crime its does not mean whole nation hate pakistan or afghani or bangali or hindi.
Its happen due to some personal reason, if the justice system is strong in turkey criminal will get punishment as per law. This mudered crime/mass shooting happen in all over the world.
Who kills who on what reason justice should be done.
Its happen due to some personal reason, if the justice system is strong in turkey criminal will get punishment as per law. This mudered crime/mass shooting happen in all over the world.
Who kills who on what reason justice should be done.
how racist. the Turk should realise that he is following a religion started by a guy whose amygdala is large.
Turkish think themselves as europeans much like how upper caste muslims associate themselves with Persians, Arabs and turks.
the three of the central muslim cultures are Persian, Arab and Turkish. They hate each other. however they form only 10% of the Muslim populations. Just the Indians (including Pak and Ban) form 30%. In this 600 million, the upper caste is only 15% which identify with above 3 cultures. So the rest of the 500 million muslims who are native should form their own culture separately.
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Systematic racism continues in PDF. It has nothing to do with racism, It's a criminal case, maybe a gangland showdown, but you are instrumentalizing it and stroking feelings of another-racism type. You don't even know what the issue is, pig ties are the method of execution of radical islamists and 'ummahists'. The inventors of this method of execution are Kurdish fundamentalists, terror organisation of Kurdish Sofis. But a few of our dedicated friends will of course not be interested in this, because their aim is to keep Indoctrination in full swing. Just like that, you have turned the PDF into a really to another ... .
Now let's get to the bottom of it: When you look at more serious sources rather than a website that publishes clickbait-style news, it is clear that the incident is a serious provocation.
A Pakistani national was found dead in an apartment in Esenler Istanbul where nearly million foreigners live today and where fire brigade teams went upon a report of a fire. DHA and NTV reported that a fire broke out in a house in Esenler, Istanbul, a body was found and that the body may have been tied with 'pig ties'. Although these two news organizations later corrected their news, Atlanticist leftist and Kurdish media circles such as Rudav, Cumhuriyet, T24, etc. began to report this event as the return of the pig tie. Anadolu Agency, which first reported the news, did not include this. The person reportedly died as a result of the fire or that the building may have been set on fire after the person was executed.
Due to this disinformation, the Turkish National Police had to issue a statement. The police issued the following statement: The person was seen lying on the ground with his feet tied. The content of some national channels and website news as "Pig Tie Murder" does not reflect the truth.
The pig tie, one of the techniques of killing by torture, is closely related to the murders in the late 90s that were proven to be linked to the terrorist organization Hezbollah (not the Hezbollah you know, but a completely different terrorist organization). In 2000, dozens of people were killed with this torture technique, which was documented in tapes found in the Beykoz house where the organization's leader Hüseyin Velioğlu was murdered.
Now why is this connection important? The main opposition alliance bloc has been making its main propaganda for 3 months now by linking HÜDAPAR, which is allied with the AKP, with Hezbollah. In this way, the CHP has tried to overshadow its alliance with the HDP/YSP, the political extension of the PKK. In other words, there is a fire and a person who lost his life in an ongoing investigation, but the post-truth mechanism works like this: --> The person who lost his life was killed with a pig tie. --> The execution with a pig tie is a signature of Hizbullah (this terrorist organization was destroyed in 2000) --> Hizbullah is actually HÜDAPAR. --> RTE is a terrorist supporter and patronizer. You elected RTE and revived Hezbollah.
However, under this heading some 'experts' seem to have created an imaginary radical hardline-secular nazist terrorist organization. I would like you to think a little bit about what kind of impression you give from the outside when you don't really know the background.
By the way, for those who are curious about pig ties:
you're tied up in this way and you're fed from something like an animal trough. Then a terrorist, a so-called qadi, judges you according to the Quran (which is actually infidels, using the Quran as a tool for their own psychotic twisted world) and you are executed with a single bullet in the back of the neck. Those who were slaughtered with pig ties were either secular and republican journalists investigating the inner workings of this terrorist organization, or opinion leaders, or people who were completely irreligious, Marxist-Leninist and worked for another kurdish narco terrorist organization, the PKK.
Now let's get to the bottom of it: When you look at more serious sources rather than a website that publishes clickbait-style news, it is clear that the incident is a serious provocation.
A Pakistani national was found dead in an apartment in Esenler Istanbul where nearly million foreigners live today and where fire brigade teams went upon a report of a fire. DHA and NTV reported that a fire broke out in a house in Esenler, Istanbul, a body was found and that the body may have been tied with 'pig ties'. Although these two news organizations later corrected their news, Atlanticist leftist and Kurdish media circles such as Rudav, Cumhuriyet, T24, etc. began to report this event as the return of the pig tie. Anadolu Agency, which first reported the news, did not include this. The person reportedly died as a result of the fire or that the building may have been set on fire after the person was executed.
Due to this disinformation, the Turkish National Police had to issue a statement. The police issued the following statement: The person was seen lying on the ground with his feet tied. The content of some national channels and website news as "Pig Tie Murder" does not reflect the truth.
The pig tie, one of the techniques of killing by torture, is closely related to the murders in the late 90s that were proven to be linked to the terrorist organization Hezbollah (not the Hezbollah you know, but a completely different terrorist organization). In 2000, dozens of people were killed with this torture technique, which was documented in tapes found in the Beykoz house where the organization's leader Hüseyin Velioğlu was murdered.
Now why is this connection important? The main opposition alliance bloc has been making its main propaganda for 3 months now by linking HÜDAPAR, which is allied with the AKP, with Hezbollah. In this way, the CHP has tried to overshadow its alliance with the HDP/YSP, the political extension of the PKK. In other words, there is a fire and a person who lost his life in an ongoing investigation, but the post-truth mechanism works like this: --> The person who lost his life was killed with a pig tie. --> The execution with a pig tie is a signature of Hizbullah (this terrorist organization was destroyed in 2000) --> Hizbullah is actually HÜDAPAR. --> RTE is a terrorist supporter and patronizer. You elected RTE and revived Hezbollah.
However, under this heading some 'experts' seem to have created an imaginary radical hardline-secular nazist terrorist organization. I would like you to think a little bit about what kind of impression you give from the outside when you don't really know the background.
By the way, for those who are curious about pig ties:
you're tied up in this way and you're fed from something like an animal trough. Then a terrorist, a so-called qadi, judges you according to the Quran (which is actually infidels, using the Quran as a tool for their own psychotic twisted world) and you are executed with a single bullet in the back of the neck. Those who were slaughtered with pig ties were either secular and republican journalists investigating the inner workings of this terrorist organization, or opinion leaders, or people who were completely irreligious, Marxist-Leninist and worked for another kurdish narco terrorist organization, the PKK.
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Kemalists were never our friend.
Systematic racism continues in PDF. It has nothing to do with racism, It's a criminal case, maybe a gangland showdown, but you are instrumentalizing it and stroking feelings of another-racism type. You don't even know what the issue is, pig ties are the method of execution of radical islamists and 'ummahists'. The inventors of this method of execution are Kurdish fundamentalists, terror organisation of Kurdish Sofis. But a few of our dedicated friends will of course not be interested in this, because their aim is to keep Indoctrination in full swing. Just like that, you have turned the PDF into a really to another ... .
Now let's get to the bottom of it: When you look at more serious sources rather than a website that publishes clickbait-style news, it is clear that the incident is a serious provocation.
A Pakistani national was found dead in an apartment in Esenler Istanbul where nearly million foreigners live today and where fire brigade teams went upon a report of a fire. DHA and NTV reported that a fire broke out in a house in Esenler, Istanbul, a body was found and that the body may have been tied with 'pig ties'. Although these two news organizations later corrected their news, Atlanticist leftist and Kurdish media circles such as Rudav, Cumhuriyet, T24, etc. began to report this event as the return of the pig tie. Anadolu Agency, which first reported the news, did not include this. The person reportedly died as a result of the fire or that the building may have been set on fire after the person was executed.
Due to this disinformation, the Turkish National Police had to issue a statement. The police issued the following statement: The person was seen lying on the ground with his feet tied. The content of some national channels and website news as "Pig Tie Murder" does not reflect the truth.
The pig tie, one of the techniques of killing by torture, is closely related to the murders in the late 90s that were proven to be linked to the terrorist organization Hezbollah (not the Hezbollah you know, but a completely different terrorist organization). In 2000, dozens of people were killed with this torture technique, which was documented in tapes found in the Beykoz house where the organization's leader Hüseyin Velioğlu was murdered.
Now why is this connection important? The main opposition alliance bloc has been making its main propaganda for 3 months now by linking HÜDAPAR, which is allied with the AKP, with Hezbollah. In this way, the CHP has tried to overshadow its alliance with the HDP/YSP, the political extension of the PKK. In other words, there is a fire and a person who lost his life in an ongoing investigation, but the post-truth mechanism works like this: --> The person who lost his life was killed with a pig tie. --> The execution with a pig tie is a signature of Hizbullah (this terrorist organization was destroyed in 2000) --> Hizbullah is actually HÜDAPAR. --> RTE is a terrorist supporter and patronizer. You elected RTE and revived Hezbollah.
However, under this heading some 'experts' seem to have created an imaginary radical hardline-secular nazist terrorist organization. I would like you to think a little bit about what kind of impression you give from the outside when you don't really know the background.
By the way, for those who are curious about pig ties:
you're tied up in this way and you're fed from something like an animal trough. Then a terrorist, a so-called qadi, judges you according to the Quran (which is actually infidels, using the Quran as a tool for their own psychotic twisted world) and you are executed with a single bullet in the back of the neck. Those who were slaughtered with pig ties were either secular and republican journalists investigating the inner workings of this terrorist organization, or opinion leaders, or people who were completely irreligious, Marxist-Leninist and worked for another kurdish narco terrorist organization, the PKK.
So, you are saying that this method is often used by the PKK and the culprit is most likely a PKK member?
The last time I checked only the secular Turks were abusing immigrants in Turkey. I haven't seen PKK, radical Islamists etc. cussing Pakistanis, Arabs and Afghans.
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No, this method of execution belongs to a radical fundamentalist and Kurdist terrorist organization that was completely dismantled in 2000. This terrorist organization was also used as an apparatus against the PKK within the repertoire of the Atlanticist/NATO gladio counter-guerrilla clicks, but in essence, it carried out its major murders against secular journalists and intellectuals. This method of execution brings only one thing to mind in TR, which is why the term 'pig tie' is so important here.
Although the statement of the Security Police and other news agencies completely deny this, the headlining of this criminal event in this way is a post-truth work. This is what I want to say. You are completely bypassing the polarization and arguments in the electoral process in the country and you are addressing this issue in an inauthentic way because of the nationality of the person who lost his life. The main debate is the AKP's decision to bring Hüdapar to parliament. Hüdapar is declared by the entire opposition bloc as the political extension of this terrorist organization. In this case, putting the allegation of pig ties in the headline essentially means that the Kurdish hizbullah is back. Indeed, if you look at the reflections on Turkish social media, you will see that this is what is being discussed, not the nationality of the deceased.
And this is not the only issue you are confusing. The PKK is a terrorist organization diametrically opposed to Islamists. And moreover, it is the main reason for the rise of anti-immigrant allergy in the country. Today, at least 2 million Syrian Kurds, Turkmens and Arabs have taken refuge in Turkiye, fleeing from areas controlled by the PKK's Syrian branch, the US proxy YPG. The youth organizations of the political party extension of the same terrorist organization, PKK, have been publishing calls to start street protests on social media throughout the day today. You are looking at the issue through a tiny hole, you don't really have an awareness of what is happening inside the room.
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