Japanese visiting beautiful Turkey!

[Aepsilons]

lol sorry bro but this made me laugh.

Turkey may not be at par with Germany in regards to some factors, but I would not ignore Her military capabilities. She is the vanguard of Europe's Southeastern Belly. If it is not for Turkey, the millions upon millions of refugees from war torn Syria, Iraq, Lebanon , Jordan would be flooding Greece, Bulgaria. The Turks , through their responsibility, build temporary shelters to house these 3 million refugees that are in Eastern Anatolian Region cannot be emphasized enough. At least it brings some kind of stability in an already unstable Middle East. The Turks' perpetual surveillance is what keeps the instability in the middle east from rolling en masse to the Balkans. This is why I believe that both the European Union and Turkey need each other.

 

[-SINAN-]

lol sorry bro but this made me laugh.

 

[xenon54 out]

Turkey may not be at par with Germany in regards to some factors, but I would not ignore Her military capabilities. She is the vanguard of Europe's Southeastern Belly. If it is not for Turkey, the millions upon millions of refugees from war torn Syria, Iraq, Lebanon , Jordan would be flooding Greece, Bulgaria. The Turks , through their responsibility, build temporary shelters to house these 3 million refugees that are in Eastern Anatolian Region cannot be emphasized enough. At least it brings some kind of stability in an already unstable Middle East. The Turks' perpetual surveillance is what keeps the instability in the middle east from rolling en masse to the Balkans. This is why I believe that both the European Union and Turkey need each other.

No to mention how Turkey is protecting Europe for 60 years now, first with 90 Nuclear weapons now with Nato Missile shield, a little bit more gratefulness would be appreciated, too bad Japan isnt our neighbor.

 

[Nefer]

That's a very insightful analysis, Nefer. It is sad to hear and see that liberalism in Europe has eroded their traditional cultural values. I think the United States is still somewhat insulated. From my experience here (well in NJ that is) people here are still somewhat traditional. Perhaps its different in other parts of the country, who knows.

Can't say its the fault of liberalism, I think its more engineering of peoples in a nation than liberalism. The more you go away from the cities the more traditional the people are, I also see that back in people who are comming to work or following their study in the local university from outside the cities.

At the moment in the Cities the people are living a care-free/reckless life, but life is getting more expensive each year and Dutch government has some budget problems, because they have this socialist system, for example low income family can have it better than a lower middle class family because of all the government programs of rent-help and you don't have to pay water cleaning costs(which keeps increasing., because people keep dumping all kinds of chemicals trough the drain), garbage collection costs and healthcare support and support children support money. This makes a huge difference arround 2-4k eur a year difference. and the taxes here are quite steep. it starts with 34% and it goes up to 52%(loan tax is 16%, but...... social programs will fill it to 52%) so if a lower midlde class earns just enough to deliver 42% of his income won't get any government support..... he is basicly legally gettig robbed.

University culture : Well people generally are all nice and clam, but even though it ranks high in the top 100s, I am not sure if those statistics are correct, a Dutch newspaper reported that In the Netherlands the University of Leiden had a score of 58% followed by University of Delft and that all other universities were coming after those. BUT Dutch Universities have high research scores.

Also Healthcare is getting worse till such a degree, that when they are diagnosed with a serious decease they go to turkey to double check it, just to be sure, but besides that, I heared some really messed up stories about people almost losing their new-born's, because the hospitals were saying nothing is wrong..... Also waiting lists and man the corruption...

Very profound ! I had never known of this deep seated mistrust of the Turks. Do all Europeans really feel this way? It is just unfair...

I know from German Turks that they are getting alienated, in the Netherlands there are a honest families, and there were people who awaited the arrival of Turks because they had a highly image of how the ottoman Turks with their Islamic values were, they were shocked and disappointed, because the immigrants weren't of the best kinds because problematic Turkish republic history. They had a saying Prefer Turks than the Pope. However do mind that not all Dutch were like that. 25 years ago in a certain place we got threatened by dead by local newspapers and local inhabitants because we were opening a turkish community center which also serves as a Mosk..... Luckily there was a Dutch which helped us a lot to calm the situation <_<.

There has been a quite culture shift in the last 40 years from then, I tend to have better human relations with the previous generation than the new one. they tend to wear a masquerade. New generations in the cities tend to think more in the manner of I don't care what happens in the world or around me, as long as I can life as I can. I don't care. And degenerate culture is getting quite mainstream here, For example 190k kids are born each years 2/3th of them are Dutch, 1/3rd immigrants and 80k are born from not married couples, and I hear some really disturbing stuff when it comes to couple loyalty in a degree that I almost have the need to puke.

I can keep writing on, but I think you get the image. In Short, I don't see how their reckless behaviour is sustainable and the new generation which will come after this one, I don't have high hopes and since the world is dynamic Netherlands may be entering a problematic situation. Personally I am thinking to move to Sweden in 4 years time, before I go back to Turkey

Remember Gallipoli.

Sacrifice was high though, very very high

 

[Targon]

I'm pretty sure they were excited to see us because of our "Islamic values" lol.

 

[Nefer]

I'm pretty sure they were excited to see us because of our "Islamic values" lol.

They were excited, because they were expecting Honest, Hardworking, Gently and have a feel for Justice kind of people. What they got were, Dishonest, Hardworking, Rude and Exploiter kind of people ............. First type of people, Ottoman islamic principles, Latter one, Turkish republic secularism stuff

 

[T-123456]

They were excited, because they were expecting Honest, Hardworking, Gently and have a feel for Justice kind of people. What they got were, Dishonest, Hardworking, Rude and Exploiter kind of people ............. First type of people, Ottoman islamic principles, Latter one, Turkish republic secularism stuff

Are you talking about the first arrivals,Turks?

 

[Targon]

They were excited, because they were expecting Honest, Hardworking, Gently and have a feel for Justice kind of people. What they got were, Dishonest, Hardworking, Rude and Exploiter kind of people ............. First type of people, Ottoman islamic principles, Latter one, Turkish republic secularism stuff

They were expecting an exotic eastern people with imperial past who were always friends with their country(ally in ww1, friendly neutral in ww2), I'm pretty sure "Islamic values" were not in their agenda.

These workers were pretty much same as their Ottoman counterparts, what kind of secularism and liberalism do you expect from these poor peasant/worker class ? you are one of these delusionals who thinks everything was perfect in Ottoman era and everybody was honest and hardworking, there were always good and rotten apples, its have nothing with Islam, its about character.

Turkish society doesn't needs more Islamic values, its needs to learn respect and harmony, that is the main problem here, those people with "Islamic values" are currently among the ones who damage the country by their hate, intolerance and discrimination.

 

[usernameless]

Guys let's not derail this beautiful thread with such discussions, at least not this one. There is cay bahcesi for that.

 

[Ahiska]

One thing from me about Turks in Germany.
75% are hardworking people who learned th language, are working or go to the University.
The other 25% is Ghetto scum and many of those cases have nothing to do with racism but with stupidity.

 

[Nefer]

Guys let's not derail this beautiful thread with such discussions, at least not this one. There is cay bahcesi for that.

Yes, I agree I will quote everyone properly in cay bahcesi for that.

 

[Timur]

Cute girl

and I thought "yam yam, I would like to have ICe cream"

two men two different priorities

 

[Saithan]

@Nihonjin1051 thanks for those videos, it's very entertaining to listen and see the japanese-english teachers experience in Turkey. I don't have enough fluency to understand everything she says, but I do catch a few words and phrases sometimes.

I think the female actress in Turkey has been a guest in more than just one film I just recently read that a japanese had opened a restaurent in Antalya where the dishes prepared dates all the way back to Roman empire, and was especially good for your health...

Antalya restaurant serving up ancient Roman dishes - FOOD

 

[atatwolf]

When I stayed in Turkey for my studies for half a year I had a Japanese female house mate just like her Turkish and Japanese code of honour and respect is similar.

 

[Aepsilons]

When I stayed in Turkey for my studies for half a year I had a Japanese female house mate just like her Turkish and Japanese code of honour and respect is similar.

Is she still in Turkey or did she go back to Japan?