Zhuhai Air Show 2014 - Updates & Discussions

[Rafi]

Z-20 is good for high altitude operation, I heart that India will get the blackhawk, I hope Pakistan can acquire one or two squadron of Z-20, it's much cheaper

It will be a game changer for Kashmir and Tibet - making our enemies cry with envy.

 

[帅的一匹]

That is the big advantage of having a powerful electronic sector. You see the Japanese has long made a Fire and Forget ATGM few years ago and China only has this HJ-12 enter service last year when Russian has struggle many years and yet to field a similar fire and forget portable ATGM. Their advance ATGM is rely on so called SALOS system.

Can this one fired in house cause I see big tail flame?

 

[帅的一匹]

Anti-frogman Rocket Launcher:

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Specially presented for Vietnam.

 

[GeHAC]

That's a dangerous recommendation. Missiles are a good system for any military to have, but using them as the only option? Missiles are more easily compromised by enemy defenses than artillery shells are. Smart shell, such as the GPS and laser guided Excalibur of the US military, are even more difficult to stop... and very accurate even against moving targets. The mobility of guided missile systems is useful, but static or mobile artillery and anti-tank guns can be even more deadly, and these systems carry more ammunition per system than the typical anti-tank missile system. Why limit yourself? By doing so you are decreasing your own versatility and increasing your enemy's ability to counter your systems but allowing them the need to develop fewer countermeasures. Compliment existing systems with the HJ-12, AFT-10 and CM501G, but don't rely on these alone.

Currently,PLA's anti-tank battalions attached to brigade/division's artillery formation are equiped with HJ-8/9 ATGMs carried by HUMVEEs and self-propelled anti-tank guns.Their role is really simplized and can't fit the current artillery C4I system well due to the lack of informatization.Also,the development of tank guns has surpassed the ability of simple anti-tank guns.Cancel of anti-tank battalion won't affect other SPGs(already equiped with smart shells) and moblie rocket launcher in artillery brigades.Just a lift on informatization level.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

 

[SvenSvensonov]

Currently,PLA's anti-tank battalions attached to brigade/division's artillery formation are equiped with HJ-8/9 ATGMs carried by HUMVEEs and self-propelled anti-tank guns.Their role is really simplized and can't fit the current artillery C4I system well due to the lack of informatization.Also,the development of tank guns has surpassed the ability of simple anti-tank guns.Cancel of anti-tank battalion won't affect other SPGs(already equiped with smart shells) and moblie rocket launcher in artillery brigades.Just a lift on informatization level.

Sounds more a like a problem with the tactics and battlefield thinking than an issue with the system. The HJ-8 is a TOW analogue while the HJ-12 is China's Javelin-type system. When the US introduced the Javelin in 1998, yes one of the most advanced anti-tank systems in the world is nearly 20 years old, it didn't replace the TOW, it just reassigned the TOW to use by other platforms. The HJ-12 is for dismounted or light infantry (such as recon or light armored vehicle mounted troops), the HJ-8 can still be used effectively from helicopters or mounted on vehicles. Also, I never mentioned anti-tank guns/tank destroyers, rather I mentioned the use of artillery as an anti-tank system and for this artillery is a brutally effective system, especially when equipped with anti-tank sub-munitions. Artillery guns also have much longer ranges than anti-tank missiles. A grad launcher or M777 battery can reduce a a modern tank force to scrap with a few salvos. The HJ-8 doesn't have to be replaced and it can't be replaced by the HJ-12 or other mounted systems because you are proposing that a system replaces another systems when the two don't share a common role (mounted versus dismounted, mobile versus stationary). Just as the Javelin didn't replace the TOW, the HJ-8 will not be replaced by the HJ-12 or AFT-10 or any other similar system.

 

[cnleio]

JF-17 assembly before ZhuHai Air Show open

BTW What's this plane ? So cute ~!

 

[j20blackdragon]

Chinese Hellfire missile

Chinese JDAM-ER

Chinese JSOW

50 kg GPS/INS bomb

1,000 kg GPS/INS bunker buster

 

[xueri]

I'm just curious and on how these weapon systems are going to sell when they have ZERO battle experience.
are you just going to sell to Africa and South America??? not going to make much $$ doing that.


if China was smart they would start a minor war with Vietnam and show off there weapons and watch the contracts fly in

that's how we do it war is business and it's very profitable.

Really?
Does F35 have any battle experience?

 

[kuge]

Our lovely Chinese military fans, thanks their photos.

the smog/haze is ever presence in china...

 

[yusheng]

Really?
Does F35 have any battle experience?

forget this stupid "experience theory",

who have practice nuclear war experience, only US, but why US so fear of others's nuclear weapons if no one on this earth have such experiecne.
today, with the swift development of tech, the old experience sometims are harmful and invalid.
last, does US really have useful experience in its past war practices? the reply is obvilus NO since what it scrapped are all small opponents, can such experience be applied to big power, such as Russian, and China?

" experience theory" is western way of thinking, let them be happy with their simlificaton and extremalization

 

[cirr]

Y-30，the new medium tactical transport。

国产运30运输机模型-中新网

 

[cirr]

Feitian-1（FT-1）mobile rapid carrier rocket launch system：

for emergency satellite launch （able to launch satellites in quick successions）。

What are the differences between Feitian-1 and Kuaizhou-1？

 

[cirr]

do you have higher quality pics of that vehicle?

 

[cnleio]

A good stealth fighter, J-31 ?