he hate israel and cant reconize what we achive he will search every thing bad he can find i didnt here any thing bad he say on chineese
Well, at least you are recognising that there is Industrial Espionage all over the place, but you like to innocent Usrael.. poor little entity..
Why? You compare your 1% achievements and 99% from the US, with 100% Chinese achievements..
Some people said the same thing as you in the 80s and 90s, that the US will never sell the F-15 to KSA, guess what has happened,, Saudis also got the Strategic weapon called AWACS and everything else they wanted..
chineese stole all the usa secrets of f 35 and other air defence systems they copy most of there products
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Saudi Arabia is determined to acquire the fifth generation fighter jets, whether by buying or manufacturing ...
Saudi Arabia and its leaders throughout history have acquired the best for its armed forces and with its new leadership it has started with a new thought, namely: Catch rare and real opportunities
So will Saudi Arabia do it and go for the F-23 full/partial ToT to make it in KSA?
The Black Widow was much faster and stealthier than the F-22 Raptor..
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What is the feasibility of such a project?
It makes sense in a way, and that is why we are discussing the possibility.. but keep in mind that the F-23 was tested more than a decade ago, and the F-22 went through a whole new program after being selected, So in reality the Y-23 was (maybe, since they were different concepts) better then, but not anymore..So I think that basing a custom made 5th G on the Y-23 existing design can be viable..
Brother, KSA will certainly go for the Turkish TFX program, if the only choice it will have is the latter or Pak-Fa from Russia, But there is the Chinese J-20 too that is readily available (but not for export..yet), this means that the TFX has a very good chance..still if KSA can get its hands on a very advanced design from the US, it will be much better, since Turkey can also help in customising the design and learn a lot from the technologies involved, which it can also incorporate into the TFX..So both situations are win-win for both Turkey and KSA.. in the meanwhile Turkey will be getting its F-35s while KSA does not have a 5th G coming as soon as that, so it should not be blamed if it wants to start its own program based on F-23 design..
Dude,can you say Sth like a man
Well, they say they could do it on their own it was better and cheaper, but they get the second best which are the F-16s, F-15s and now the F-35..what an alibi..I am not sure if you know about all their stolen tech up to plutonium from the US..but I do not blame you if you don't, they were controlling the Media and have covered/erased most of it.. I have provided you an article saying it was built on the F-6 and you still don't believe it!
No, I'm not sticking to the topic if you insist on insinuating I don't know certain things. I've been in the analysis business for real and longer than most here. Don't make assumptions. Why c/shouldn'the Israeli come up with a design that is in some ways better than F16 (A/B at the time was nothing like what current versions are), their design was a good decade newer. Think about what that means e.g. in computing (both on the plane and at the design table) and materials.
I have been in the military (and other) analysis business for a long time too..I speak from facts not by emotion or preconceived ideas.. we just have different perceptions, I base mine on very long and deep knowledge of the middle east problems and its countries while you take a neutral or sometimes a pro-Usraeli stance, I do not blame you, since Usrael was planted there by the Western powers of that time and still being fully supported by the new ones today, I can sympathise with the view that you have been exposed to and believe in.. on the other hand I can see it from different angles as I lived in both the middle east and the West..
US is not shoving its 1970s tech down anybody's throat. Saudi Arabia - as potential customer - expresses its interest in purchasing arms of its choice from the US.
