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If you think people go to India because of India-produced generic drugs why isn't China producing them ? The Indian company Cipla and its founder are very respected in Africa for instance because of its cheap and effective generic drugs. Doesn't China want to do good things for the world ?

And these from that article :








1. I have said this at least ten times : There was not much American repression of the Taliban. The Taliban exist because of the Western governments. The Taliban used to sell opium to the CIA by forcing farmers do grow it. The US air force carried Taliban to the battlefields of Syria to fight against Assad's forces because the Socialist government of Assad is a common enemy of NATO as well as the Taliban types. The Taliban embassy in Qatar operated openly since 2013, Qatar being a country which has a big American military base yet the CIA, MI6, Mossad etc didn't assassinate the Taliban people there despite the Western militaries supposedly fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan. And you contradict your own words because two or three days ago you had posted a pic of a China-managed copper mine in Afghanistan where the Western militaries and Taliban had an agreement not to fight in that area.

2. Yes some Afghans support the Taliban because they fit into those people's idea of "culture" but there are other Afghans, including the former Afghan National Army, who simply fear the Taliban because the Taliban present themselves as being fighters in the cause of Islam ( while of course violating Islamic principles ). The perception of the Taliban being fierce Islamic fighters leads some Afghans to not raise voice or be neutral about Taliban in fear of not been seen as proper Muslims. But then we must ask why do Afghans want to run away from the "Islamic" Emirate of Afghanistan if the Taliban had support of the populace. And why are Afghan women protesting ? Just after the Taliban took over the Afghan students and traders in India opposed the takeover. Doesn't the opinion of these Afghans count ?

If I myself being a Muslim had to accept or reject some idea or movement through measuring how many number of people support it then I would also have to speak about the early days of Islam when only a few people were Muslims and with the initial ideas occurring in the mind of just one man.

China is just being selfish. Every other words by it are drama.

Do you know why multinational pharmaceutical companies allow India to make generic drugs? Because India provides human experimental materials for these companies's new drugs.

China protects the drug patents of these companies because Chinese companies also have drug patents to protect.



https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20136654
 
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If you think people go to India because of India-produced generic drugs why isn't China producing them ? The Indian company Cipla and its founder are very respected in Africa for instance because of its cheap and effective generic drugs. Doesn't China want to do good things for the world ?

And these from that article :








1. I have said this at least ten times : There was not much American repression of the Taliban. The Taliban exist because of the Western governments. The Taliban used to sell opium to the CIA by forcing farmers do grow it. The US air force carried Taliban to the battlefields of Syria to fight against Assad's forces because the Socialist government of Assad is a common enemy of NATO as well as the Taliban types. The Taliban embassy in Qatar operated openly since 2013, Qatar being a country which has a big American military base yet the CIA, MI6, Mossad etc didn't assassinate the Taliban people there despite the Western militaries supposedly fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan. And you contradict your own words because two or three days ago you had posted a pic of a China-managed copper mine in Afghanistan where the Western militaries and Taliban had an agreement not to fight in that area.

2. Yes some Afghans support the Taliban because they fit into those people's idea of "culture" but there are other Afghans, including the former Afghan National Army, who simply fear the Taliban because the Taliban present themselves as being fighters in the cause of Islam ( while of course violating Islamic principles ). The perception of the Taliban being fierce Islamic fighters leads some Afghans to not raise voice or be neutral about Taliban in fear of not been seen as proper Muslims. But then we must ask why do Afghans want to run away from the "Islamic" Emirate of Afghanistan if the Taliban had support of the populace. And why are Afghan women protesting ? Just after the Taliban took over the Afghan students and traders in India opposed the takeover. Doesn't the opinion of these Afghans count ?

If I myself being a Muslim had to accept or reject some idea or movement through measuring how many number of people support it then I would also have to speak about the early days of Islam when only a few people were Muslims and with the initial ideas occurring in the mind of just one man.

China is just being selfish. Every other words by it are drama.



But does North Korea really trust China ? Below is from a Western news agency but does raise some questions :

OK, Let me tell you how the Chinese view the Taliban:
Chinese people usually have two characteristics in thinking.
1, Marxist dialectics,
2, looking for the main contradiction.

Marx's dialectics holds that everything is contradictory and unified.
So Chinese thinking is that the Taliban have a negative side and a positive side.

The Taliban has supported terrorist organizations, oppressed women, bombed human cultural heritage and so on. It is a religious conservative extremist force. This is the negative side of the Taliban.
The Taliban has been suppressed by the U.S. occupying forces and the Afghan puppet government for 20 years, but it can still develop and grow. The Taliban must have the support of the Afghan people. This is the positive side of the Taliban.

And let's look for the main contradictions in Afghan society.
When the rule of the American army and the Afghan puppet government, the Afghan people as poor as a church mouse. So the main contradiction at that time was the contradiction between the imperialist occupying forces and the Afghan people.
So when the Taliban regain power, what is the main contradiction in Afghan society?
If the Taliban government oppresses the people as before, the main contradiction will be the contradiction between the Taliban government and the Afghan people.
If the Taliban government makes changes, the main contradiction will be the contradiction between the material needs of the Afghan people and the backward economic level of Afghanistan.


This is the way of thinking of Communists, and yours is the way of thinking of Paramecium.
 
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You're interesting.
You are Indian and I am Chinese. You introduced the seats and fares of the high-speed railway to me yesterday. Today you introduced communism to me.
I guess you'll teach me how to make dumplings tomorrow.

Yet you have no issue lecturing democratic countries about multi party democratic systems !
 
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Yet you have no issue lecturing democratic countries about multi party democratic systems !

Yes, because the Chinese think the one party system is not suitable for most countries.
 
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There is no bigger meme than democracy.
But I do believe China is more democratic because factionalism in China is stronger than the US, US is literally two puppet parties.
Not true. In US, not only can people vote with their hands, they can also vote with their feet. Moving from a city to another or from a state to another is never considered a bit deal. In China, people can only vote for one party (that is the factionalism you talk about except there is only one faction) and people are bounded by their HuKou, which is a bit like permanent residency. Moving from a place to another WITHIN China is like applying permanent residency to another country.

I see the ability to vote with feet is the bottom line for any democracy. Without it, there is no democracy at all.
 
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The Taliban must have the support of the Afghan people.

Why are you repeating this ? I have clearly told you the reality. Are you blind ? And if you are really blind is your text-to-voice program not working ?

If the Taliban government oppresses the people as before

If ? They are doing it as before man ! For instance they have replaced the women's affairs ministry with a "morals maintaining and prevention of vice " ministry like between their previous rule in 1996 and 2001 and that rule also being supported by the West and IIRC by China. And they are beating up journalists and protesting women and raping gays.

This is the way of thinking of Communists, and yours is the way of thinking of Paramecium.

1. You are no Communist. Nor is your "Communist" Party of China. You couldn't answer my points about your society. Nor are those compatriots of yours who are spamming the forum with Taliban-adoration posts since the 15th of August. It all seems directed by the Party.

2. And your thinking would have been much admired by Marx and Lenin no doubt. :rolleyes: You just keep repeating words like "Dialectics" and "Contradiction". Speak in simple terms man. I am a Communist by choice and thoughtful understanding, in a socio-economic and political system that is not Communist. You... You just say you are. You couldn't answer my simple points about your supposedly Communist society.

Do you know why multinational pharmaceutical companies allow India to make generic drugs? Because India provides human experimental materials for these companies's new drugs.

That is sad and I would like for these experiments to be done on some fake Communists.

And don't speak as if China doesn't do drug experiments on humans elsewhere. From this article :
MEXICO CITY, May 11 (Reuters) - Mexico plans to start a late-stage clinical trial this month for a COVID-19 vaccine candidate developed by China using similar technology to shots from Moderna (MRNA.O) and Pfizer (PFE.N), foreign minister Marcelo Ebrard said on Tuesday.

The phase III trial for the shot from China's Walvax Biotechnology (300142.SZ) using messenger RNA (mRNA) technology will start on May 30 and involve 6,000 volunteers, Ebrard said in a Tweet.
Why aren't you part of these 6000 volunteers ? And in an article from FT.com about the same news the Mexican government, to preempt any criticism, made it a point of saying that the "volunteers" are not guinea pigs.

China protects the drug patents of these companies because Chinese companies also have drug patents to protect.

But why is Communist China not making its drug research open source ?
 
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Yet you have no issue lecturing democratic countries about multi party democratic systems !
I have issues. Hitler was elected in a multi party democratic country, wasn't he? Donald Trump? India has been a multi party democratic country for over 70 years. Why is it still one of the poorest, good for nothing country in the world? The US has two parties, China has one, India has 1000, How many is enough, too many, not enough? Why not let everyone be a party? Why have a government at all? Does the word "reality" mean anything or everyone in the world has to live in their delusions for ever? So you think you are better than us just because you can cast a random vote to "represent" one in a trillion once in a while? Lecture me please:azn:
 
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Why are you repeating this ? I have clearly told you the reality. Are you blind ? And if you are really blind is your text-to-voice program not working ?



If ? They are doing it as before man ! For instance they have replaced the women's affairs ministry with a "morals maintaining and prevention of vice " ministry like between their previous rule in 1996 and 2001 and that rule also being supported by the West and IIRC by China. And they are beating up journalists and protesting women and raping gays.



1. You are no Communist. Nor is your "Communist" Party of China. You couldn't answer my points about your society. Nor are those compatriots of yours who are spamming the forum with Taliban-adoration posts since the 15th of August. It all seems directed by the Party.

2. And your thinking would have been much admired by Marx and Lenin no doubt. :rolleyes: You just keep repeating words like "Dialectics" and "Contradiction". Speak in simple terms man. I am a Communist by choice and thoughtful understanding, in a socio-economic and political system that is not Communist. You... You just say you are. You couldn't answer my simple points about your supposedly Communist society.



That is sad and I would like for these experiments to be done on some fake Communists.

And don't speak as if China doesn't do drug experiments on humans elsewhere. From this article :

Why aren't you part of these 6000 volunteers ? And in an article from FT.com about the same news the Mexican government, to preempt any criticism, made it a point of saying that the "volunteers" are not guinea pigs.



But why is Communist China not making its drug research open source ?
That's the COVID19 vaccine. You should know that there are very few COVID19 patients in China. If China does not conduct human experiments abroad, where will China find the subjects?


Of course, Chinese pharmaceutical companies had also disclose drug research. Yes, they also had some drugs are tested in humans in India. This is because India is very experienced in clinical trials of drugs and has a complete industrial chain. China has also acquiesced in India's generic drugs.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3149402/
 
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I have issues. Hitler was elected in a multi party democratic country, wasn't he? Donald Trump? India has been a multi party democratic country for over 70 years. Why is it still one of the poorest, good for nothing country in the world? The US has two parties, China has one, India has 1000, How many is enough, too many, not enough? Why not let everyone be a party? Why have a government at all? Does the word "reality" mean anything or everyone in the world has to live in their delusions for ever? Why do you think you are better than us lowly Chinese slaves just because you can cast a random vote to "represent" one in a trillion once in a while? Lecture me please:azn:

Democracy, as a political system, is utterly unsuitable, for underdeveloped countries.
 
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I have issues. Hitler was elected in a multi party democratic country, wasn't he? Donald Trump? India has been a multi party democratic country for over 70 years. Why is it still one of the poorest, good for nothing country in the world? The US has two parties, China has one, India has 1000, How many is enough, too many, not enough? Why not let everyone be a party? Why have a government at all? Does the word "reality" mean anything or everyone in the world has to live in their delusions for ever? So you think you are better than us lowly Chinese slaves just because you can cast a random vote to "represent" one in a trillion once in a while? Lecture me please:azn:
Please, learn a page from China Communist Party, which extols their great capability to correct themselves. OK, then why would that capability be only reserved to communists? Can't democratic countries correct themselves from their own mistakes?
Democracy, as a political system, is utterly unsuitable, for underdeveloped countries.
Democracy, as a political system, is utterly unsuitable, for any country that has no tolerance. When people cut each other's throats, of course they won't sit down to discuss.
 
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Interesting part of speech:


Abroad... While according to the article half of the world's coal consumption is in China and it is still building new coal plants. :lol:

I believe three countries are responsible for the most pollution in the world - China, USA and India. Any immediate change about this has to start with abolishing privately-owned personal transport vehicles ( cars and two-wheelers ) and replacing this with more and efficiently-managed intra-city buses and taxis. This will have great change on the world at immediate level and secondary level.
 
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What is the core of China’s foreign policy, and what do you think about it?

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The core of China's foreign policy, which has not changed since 1949, is to serve around the need for China to be strong. I have seen answers to the claim that China's foreign policy is divided into several stages, and I am sorry to say that I have asked Chinese scholars of international issues and they have all said that they have never heard of such a claim.
The core of China's diplomacy has remained the same for 70 years, with a few adjustments in some executive level policies.
1. Stabilising China's neighbourhood and creating a good opportunity for China's development
2、Strengthening communication and making the world understand China's development
3. Through foreign aid, to win the support of other small and medium-sized countries in the world for China in terms of policy.
Some people say that China is now very tough with the West and that this is a so-called "strategic counter-attack", so I am curious to ask, is the Korean War in the 1950s considered tough?
China's relationship with the US has not yet reached a state of military war, has it?
For 70 years, China has put forward a diplomatic principle, the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence.
The Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence were first formally put forward to the international community in 1953 by Zhou Enlai, then Premier of the Central People's Government's Council of Government, when he met with a delegation from the Indian government, with which China had a territorial dispute. The specific contents are
mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity
non-aggression towards each other
non-interference in each other's internal affairs
equality and mutual benefit
peaceful coexistence
The Five Principles were later amended by replacing "equality and reciprocity" with "equality and mutual benefit" and "mutual respect for territorial sovereignty" with "mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity", i.e. "mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity, non-aggression, non-interference in each other's internal affairs, equality and mutual benefit, and peaceful coexistence".
In April 1955, Indonesia held the Bandung Conference in Bandung, which was attended by 29 countries and regions, and issued the Declaration on the Promotion of World Peace and Cooperation, which included all of these five principles.
In 1957, Mao Zedong, then Chairman of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China and President of China, declared in Moscow that "China firmly advocates the implementation of the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence by all countries".
In 1974, Chinese Vice-Premier Deng Xiaoping again stressed at the UNGASS that political and economic relations between countries "should be based on the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence".
In 1988, Deng Xiaoping, Chairman of the Central Military Commission of the Communist Party of China (CPC), put forward the idea of establishing a new international political and economic order based on the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence.
The Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence have also been affirmed in many international multilateral treaties and documents, including the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Cooperation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, adopted by the 25th session of the United Nations General Assembly in 1970, and the Declaration on the Establishment of a New International Economic Order, adopted by the 6th Special Session of the General Assembly in 1974, which explicitly included the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence.
China claims that in its relations with all countries, including socialist countries, it has "consistently adhered to the five principles of peaceful coexistence and, on the basis of these principles, has established and developed friendly and cooperative relations with many countries" and that "over the decades, the five principles of peaceful coexistence have withstood the test of international Over the decades, the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence have withstood the test of international changes and have shown great vitality and played a great role in promoting world peace and international friendship and cooperation. China is not only an advocate of the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence, but also a faithful adherent to them. On the basis of these five principles, China has resolved historical border issues with the vast majority of its neighbours and has established diplomatic relations with most countries in the world".
Although a few countries, such as India and Vietnam, have different views on China's "peace policy".
But I think we all acknowledge the fact that China does not send troops around the world and bomb other countries as often as the US and Europe do, right?
As for the recent talks in Alaska, the world was surprised by the toughness shown by Chinese diplomats.
In fact, if you look back at Chinese history, you will see that Chinese diplomats have been like this for 70 years. It's just that it's not reported in the media.
And this time in Alaska, because of a miscalculation by the United States, the tough side of Chinese diplomats was shown to the world. The previous toughness was just not captured by the media and then scandalously reported by the Western media after the meeting.
The West says that China used to bide its time and now it is a war wolf diplomacy, so what is the situation from the Korean War, to the Sino-Indian conflict, the Sino-Soviet conflict on Jumbo Island and the Sino-Vietnamese war. Were these all bushwhacking?
On the contrary, China has not had any foreign war conflicts in the last 40 years. Has it actually turned into war-wolf diplomacy?
This is a joke.
We engage in war, you say we are biding our time.
We avoid war, and you say we are war-wolf diplomacy?
Is this just like Europe and America?
The US and Europe bomb around the world and are said to be keeping the peace.
China doesn't run around the world killing people and is said to be a threat to peace.
So those who think that China's foreign policy principles have been adjusted are those who lack understanding of Chinese diplomacy.
Have you not noticed the sequence of events?
Because the West, and the US in particular, kept putting pressure on China before China made a counter-attack, and so it appeared to be more assertive?
If the US had not constantly sent aircraft carriers into Chinese territorial waters, China would not have been so eager to develop its navy. Of course the western media narrative is that China keeps developing its military power so the US has to come and maintain the balance. And China is trying to break that balance again.
Of course Chinese diplomacy has made some adjustments, on a technical level. For example, the previous diplomatic centre of political focus and economic support has become a diplomatic model of economic construction and political support.
China has abandoned its previous practice of foreign aid that was divorced from its own economic strength. But as China's economy develops, the total amount of Chinese foreign economic aid is still increasing.
To sum up, in layman's terms, the core principles of China's diplomacy are.
I try to do our own thing
Let other people's affairs be settled by their own families.
Peaceful engagement is a prerequisite.
So you should understand why China has adopted its present attitude towards the situation in Burma. China's diplomatic principles are clear.
How the Burmese military and the NLD make trouble is your own business, the Burmese.
We are opposed to the use of force by both of you, but even if there is a civil war that is a matter for your own family. (In fact, in recent decades, there has been no end to civil war between the Tatmadaw and the NLD within Burma)
China is opposed to any intervention from outside forces, especially military intervention.






https://www.quora.com/If-China-buil...-four-people-from-its-history-would-be-chosen
China claimed the South China Sea in a completely one-sided move that saw it create many artificial islands in that sea used to facilitate it's armies.
Vietnam, The Phillipines and Indonesia have complained about these developments, as has the rest of the international community.

I think China preaches peace and prosperity, but practices sneaky domination and control.
 
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China claimed the South China Sea in a completely one-sided move that saw it create many artificial islands in that sea used to facilitate it's armies.
Vietnam, The Phillipines and Indonesia have complained about these developments, as has the rest of the international community.

I think China preaches peace and prosperity, but practices sneaky domination and control.
Actually that is not a fair statement. First of all, all claims of territories are one-sided move. Second, the artificial island building didn't start by China. Vietnam started it long before China did. China simply did a much better job at it. China may practice sneaky domination and control but the case with South China Sea isn't one of such practices.
 
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