WORLD VIEW: TURKEY, SAUDI ARABIA AND PAKISTAN SEEK ‘SUNNI UNITY’ VERSUS IRAN

[Rakan.SA]

Listen we the people of Pak and our military don't want anything I do with your secterian conflicts .. Who is Nawaz Sharif ? A two bit politician with crumbling support ? Before that was Zardari and who knows who comes after him .. So politically speaking I think yesterday's Foriegn office statement should have cleared everybody's doubts ... As I said we want good relations with every country .. Military,economic,cultural you name it .. But we don't want to become another Syria or Bahrain -- battleground between you and Iran ..

This sectarian bs wouldn't and can't work in Pak .. We are/were a country where Sunnis lead Ashura processions.. We are a country which is blessed by Sufis saints like Ganj Baksh,Farid,l etx and Sufi poets n malangs/dervishs.

But sorry to say the ideology that gulf exports is venomous and brings nothing but hate and misery .. And we don't want that !

You and Iran should mend your fences .. Coz if you don't .. The war that you fuel on her countries would spread to your houses.




Funny fact :

Dr AQ Khan was accused of helpin iranian nuclear program too.

who the hell said we want pakistan to be destabilized in any way or form. its always good to think before you talk. how will a weak pakistan help us or be in our favor ?! all countries around the world want their allies to be strong and stable. so i think you got carried away and become too emotional.
we dont have an ideology in saudi. we have islam. you either take it or leave it. your choice.
go to the islamic university and madinah and show us this ideology you are talking about. il go with you to every islamic university in saudi. il drive you around my self. show me this so called ideology. expose us please

 

[B@KH]

LOL! Saudi already destabilized Pakistan as much as it can.

For Sure Pakistanis will not die for Saudi Arabia.

Islam is not only in Saudi. ISLAM is universal.

Saudi only protect the wahabi ideology and call it islam.

while ISLAM Protects all religions and all people of the world.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Is it a Sunni-Shia war in the making? If this does happen what about the Shia's in Pakistan? Wouldn't this result in more bloodshed on the streets?

It would therefore be a bad idea if Pakistan joins a Sunni Arab alliance against Shia Iran, as the repercussions at home would be devastating.

It was always a Persian VS Arab rivalry(remember Iran-Iraq war). Saudis and the Mullah regime in Iran turned it into a Shia VS Sunni war.

Iran does not have much influence in Pakistan. In fact Iran used to be a very friendly nation towards Pakistan. Yet we paid them back by letting Pakistani Shias getting slaughtered in 1980s-90s. Sunni sectarian organisations were founded by the Establishment. There was a large scale murder of Shias in 80-90s. Instead of stopping the violence the Pakistani authorities clearly chose the radical Sunni side. Obviously Iran was going to get angry after seeing fellow Shias being killed next door.

Tighten your seat belts for some serious conflict spilling over from ME into South Asia.

 

[Rakan.SA]

Funny fact :

Dr AQ Khan was accused of helpin iranian nuclear program too.

major general musaaed alfaydi from ministry of interior.
studied in command and staff college in quetta pakistan when he was a captain. i might got the wrong college name not sure.
anyway while he was there in 1993. they asked all foreign students not to attend for 2 days. when he asked his friend about the reason he told him AQ khan is coming to give a lecture. that was normal for ppl from outside the college to come give lectures but cuz it was AQ Khan and for security reasons all foreigners had to leave.
he immediately went to the college commander and asked to meet him. he said he wont promise its up to AQ Khan. but come 9am and we will see.
he came next day and an emarati higher ranking officer joined him after the captain told him what was going on. so they went to meet AQ Khan.not knowing for sure if he will come or not. waiting at the commander office since the morning.
suddenly AQ Khan came into the room with his security. first the college commander introduced the emarati officer. security stood between AQ Khan and the emarati officer. security allowed the emerati officer to shake hands. then they introduced captain musaaed alfaydi from saudi arabia. AQ Khan asked his security to move away and AQ Khan hugged the saudi captain the pakistani way for 20 seconds and whispered in his ears " i smell in you makkah and madinah... whenever im tired and stop research i go to makkah and madinah " the captin whispered back in AQ Khan ears and also asked about his research. it was forbidden to ask such questions. he didnt mention in the story what AQ Khan told him. and as AQ Khan was leaving captain musaaed was in tears.
thats the true nature of our relationship with pakistan. and all the haters here cant do anything. no matter what they do. in shaa Allah their barks wont affect us. keep barking until hell freezes nothing in shaa allah will happen.

@Banu Hashim

this is a later pic with AQ Khan when he became a Major

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

major general musaaed alfaydi from ministry of interior.
studied in command and staff college in quetta pakistan when he was a captain. i might got the wrong college name not sure.
anyway while he was there in 1993. they asked all foreign students not to attend for 2 days. when he asked his friend about the reason he told him AQ khan is coming to give a lecture. that was normal for ppl from outside the college to come give lectures but cuz it was AQ Khan and for security reasons all foreigners had to leave.
he immediately went to the college commander and asked to meet him. he said he wont promise its up to AQ Khan. but come 9am and we will see.
he came next day and an emarati higher ranking officer joined him after the captain told him what was going on. so they went to meet AQ Khan.not knowing for sure if he will come or not. waiting at the commander office since the morning.
suddenly AQ Khan came into the room with his security. first the college commander introduced the emarati officer. security stood between AQ Khan and the emarati officer. security allowed the emerati officer to shake hands. then they introduced captain musaaed alfaydi from saudi arabia. AQ Khan asked his security to move away and AQ Khan hugged the saudi captain the pakistani way for 20 seconds and whispered in his ears " i smell in you makkah and madinah... whenever im tired and stop research i go to makkah and madinah " the captin whispered back in AQ Khan ears and also asked about his research. it was forbidden to ask such questions. he didnt mention in the story what AQ Khan told him. and as AQ Khan was leaving captain musaaed was in tears.
thats the true nature of our relationship with pakistan. and all the haters here cant do anything. no matter what they do. in shaa Allah their barks wont affect us. keep barking until hell freezes nothing in shaa allah will happen.

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@Banu Hashim

Than why not make peace my friend ? Why hate eachother over irrelevant things like sect etc?

 

[Kambojaric]

Under no circumstances should we get dragged into any anti shia alliance. Saudi and Iran both hold the same place for us and shias form an integral part of our nation.

 

[Yaduveer]

During reign of Akbar in India, There was 4 major Muslim empires in the Asia-Ottoman,Uzbek, Persian and Mughals. Persian were Shia and rest Sunni.

Uzbek king has offered to Abkar and Ottoman to attack Shia Persian Safavids from three sides . Ottoman agreed but Mughals refused. any guess why ?

 

[atatwolf]

During reign of Akbar in India, There was 4 major Muslim empires in the Asia-Ottoman,Uzbek, Persian and Mughals. Persian were Shia and rest Sunni.

Uzbek king has offered to Abkar and Ottoman to attack Shia Persian Safavids from three sides . Ottoman agreed but Mughals refused. any guess why ?

All 4 were Turkic empires. The Ottomans didn't want to attack fellow Turkic empire. They were concentrating on westward expansion.

 

[Yaduveer]

All 4 were Turkic empires. The Ottomans didn't want to attack fellow Turkic empire. They were concentrating on westward expansion.

ohh please .. safavids and ottoman were bitter enemy which had led to decades of war .

Ottoman–Safavid War (1623–39) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ottoman–Safavid War (1532–55) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Read it.

 

[atatwolf]

ohh please .. safavids and ottoman were bitter enemy which had led to decades of war .

Ottoman–Safavid War (1623–39) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ottoman–Safavid War (1532–55) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Read it.

You didn't read what I said.

 

[Yaduveer]

You didn't read what I said.

You did not read .. what was question ?

Let me put question one more time ... Why had Akbar refused an all out conquest of Persia with Uzbeks and ottomans ?

 

[ravi kiran]

I hate Pakistan but I think Pakistan will not harm Iran-Pakistan relations.
Pakistan will maintain friendly relations with Saudi and Iran.

 

[Mutakalim]

The person who don’t agree with your views is dangerous? What's all the fuss about it? Produce some guts to tolerate opposite views.Well I am not surprised. From start this group has extremist ideas. They are modern day khawarij, involved in all type of extremism across the globe from al Qaida to Taliban, ISIS, lashkar e jhangvi etc. the question is why all these terrorist organization belongs to a single sect or group?

attention everyone. a live example here of how a parrot and a sheep like this guy is dangerous.

Majority of Muslims have different views about wahabism.

first of all i read few lines of what this brainless thing has posted. when s person shots down his mind and start to talk like how he was taught since childhood and stop using reason and logic he becomes a tool. not a human being.

I have stated in my above post that this is not the right place for that kind of discussion. For your satisfaction I have to give you a reply.

i dont have time for ppl like you but il make an example out of you and state a few facts that shows how misguided you are.

Now what I can say . You are denying your own existence. I see them daily, involved in almost every terrorist activity. In Pakistan they are well known.

1st there is no such thing as wahhabi. we never saw it. we dont know it.

Who taught you to call a Muslim brother an ape? Ibn e abdul wahab? Now tell me these are Islamic teachings. From what I know Islam taught us manners of debate.

2nd salafi is not a sect your brainless ape.

I am aware of salaf Asaleheen. But ibn e taimiyyah and his followers are not salaf. You can say that we are followers of salaf, I don’t agree. In my opinion ibn e abdul wahab started a new sect on the footsteps of khawarij, ibn e taimiah and few other scholars who are not even 1 percent of Aimah Mujtahideen.

salafi means folowing the footsteps of the salaf who are the 3 generations the prophet said they are the best.

Quran, Hadith, fiqh and history are taught in my own house from hundreds of years. My grandfather is Shaikh ul Hadees. It’s not new for me.

as for the hadith you dumb ape have to understand hadith and arabic and history to understand exactly what was meant.

agreed.

for example at the time of the prophet najd included places near iraq today, that explains a lot, cuz since the death of sayedna ali in iraq it has been a death bath until today. not even a monkey can deny this historical fact. iraq never ever had peace. it was always in wars. throughout history there were wars and assassinations you name it. it never stopped

Nothing new.
these monkeys forms the majority of muslim ummah.

as for the devils horn and trying to fabricate the prophets word. you see these trics only work on the uneducated monkeys like you.

Where is reference? Without reference its nothing.

1 example the prophit said the most tough ppl on aldajja are banu tamim. or they are among the toughest on al dajjal.

This brain is controlled by Hub e Mustafa P.B.U.H.

i know you look stupid now. but thats what happens when you handle your brains over to other ppl to control you.

Proof reading is not done by me. These sites are only quoted by me to give the person some idea. If dates are not correct than my apologies.

the amount of fabrication in this site is unreal. specialy the dates. this guy mixed up event and made his own story knowing that his followers are cows and wont dare to ask or read history.

brother i respect your views, whatever they are. I have my opinions on which i am confident that they are true.

Lakum deenukum wa liya deen.
لَـكُمۡ دِيۡنُكُمۡ وَلِىَ دِيۡنِ‏
Fi aman allah.

 

[Viper0011.]

Uzbek king has offered to Abkar and Ottoman to attack Shia Persian Safavids from three sides . Ottoman agreed but Mughals refused. any guess why ?

I think I know the answer. They called me to ask if they could attack, I told them MOFO's to follow PEACE!

 

[Rakan.SA]

The person who don’t agree with your views is dangerous? What's all the fuss about it? Produce some guts to tolerate opposite views.Well I am not surprised. From start this group has extremist ideas. They are modern day khawarij, involved in all type of extremism across the globe from al Qaida to Taliban, ISIS, lashkar e jhangvi etc. the question is why all these terrorist organization belongs to a single sect or group?


Majority of Muslims have different views about wahabism.



I have stated in my above post that this is not the right place for that kind of discussion. For your satisfaction I have to give you a reply.



Now what I can say . You are denying your own existence. I see them daily, involved in almost every terrorist activity. In Pakistan they are well known.



Who taught you to call a Muslim brother an ape? Ibn e abdul wahab? Now tell me these are Islamic teachings. From what I know Islam taught us manners of debate.



I am aware of salaf Asaleheen. But ibn e taimiyyah and his followers are not salaf. You can say that we are followers of salaf, I don’t agree. In my opinion ibn e abdul wahab started a new sect on the footsteps of khawarij, ibn e taimiah and few other scholars who are not even 1 percent of Aimah Mujtahideen.



Quran, Hadith, fiqh and history are taught in my own house from hundreds of years. My grandfather is Shaikh ul Hadees. It’s not new for me.


agreed.



Nothing new.
these monkeys forms the majority of muslim ummah.



Where is reference? Without reference its nothing.


This brain is controlled by Hub e Mustafa P.B.U.H.


Proof reading is not done by me. These sites are only quoted by me to give the person some idea. If dates are not correct than my apologies.



brother i respect your views, whatever they are. I have my opinions on which i am confident that they are true.

Lakum deenukum wa liya deen.
لَـكُمۡ دِيۡنُكُمۡ وَلِىَ دِيۡنِ‏
Fi aman allah.

again very simple bet. 10,000 dollars for you and your grandfather who raised you if you bring one line of innovation in fiqh imam mohammd bin abdulwahhab came up with. he follows imam ahmad ibn hanbal in fiqh so how the hell does he have his own sect ?! use your brains.
he also agreed with all 4 schools of fiqh so where is the fabrication. it takes one line to burn all of the wahhabi devil kindom. show me that one line from his own book. give me the book name and what page.
i dont respect ppl who lie and seperate muslims by fabricating such stuff. if you have proof fine i have no problem. but you dont!

BTW he is implying that i am not muslim. so who is the takfiri here ?!
when you say abdul wahab started a new sect on the footsteps of khawarij and then you say lakum deenukum wa liya deen. then you are saying we are kufar. so you are a takfiri
do you know what does that mean ? do you know what the prophet said about such thing ? if we are not kuffars then as the prophet peace be upon him said you became kafir for accusing us with kufr without evidence.
you are playing with fire. its your choice. but you will carry it with you until the day of judgment and you will face millions cuz of this accusations.