With eye on China, India deploys Akash missiles in northeast !

[Abingdonboy]

Good to have a deterrence along the NE with the MKIs and Mountain Strike Corps along with all other associated infrastructure. I agree with the PM- a strong military position is paramount to peace. Give the Chinese something to think twice about but also continue with dialogue. The last thing India needs is a messy border situation like it has on its Western border and China is a nation India needs good ties with unlike her other troublesome neighbour.

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

Arey yaar,aap kam se kam itna to batao ki kaun si S 300??The S 300 is a much boarder term used by NATO to describe a whole family of different SAMs.There are literally dozens of S 300 variants out there,which one you are talking about??

S-300 VMK ABM, AA ,ACM

And besides,why would India need to deploy a heavy SAM like say, S 300 PMU2 against PLAAF??Heavy SAMs like these were developed to primarily engage high altitude bombers with secondary anti Tactical Ballistic Missile capabilities!!But due to their heavy weight,these SAMs have got somewhat poor lateral acceleration,which is more important to successfully engage modern highly maneuverable strike fighter like the J 10s and J 11s of PLAAF. That's the reason why PLAAF has deployed their Buk copies in TAR to counter the IAF fighters.So why should India be an exception??The best bait would be to deploy the combo of Barak 2ER SAMs for area defense and the Akash ESHORADS for point defence.Seems like IAF is going in that direction anyway,so no S 300.

S-300 is a is a multirole multimode defense system, apart from anti-aircraft, we have threat of Ballistic and cruise missiles
Chinese borders have been guarded by HQ-18, Akash is just a SAM with with interception range of 30-35km with a ceiling height of 56,000 feet
Compare it to S-300 VMK that can engage a Ballistic missile, a cruise missile and an low RCS Air-craft 100 Nautical miles away

 

[Omega007]

S-300 VMK ABM, AA ,ACM


S-300 is a is a multirole multimode defense system, apart from anti-aircraft, we have threat of Ballistic and cruise missiles
Chinese borders have been guarded by HQ-18, Akash is just a SAM with with interception range of 30-35km with a ceiling height of 56,000 feet
Compare it to S-300 VMK that can engage a Ballistic missile, a cruise missile and an low RCS Air-craft 100 Nautical miles away

Don't fall for that marketing gimmicks brah,the performance of your super cool S 300 hasn't been all that good.In fact during mid 90s,Indian Army did test the PMU2 version,often touted to be one of the more advanced versions of the S 300 and guess what??It was a disaster such a big that they rejected it then and there!!Actually it's the failure of the S 300 PMU2 that prompted the then GoI to approve the DRDO to initiate a detailed project feasibility study for the development of an Indian BMD. Rest is history.

besides,recent conflict in Lebanon has shown that this system isn't particularly effective against modern 4th generation fighters and LACMs like the BGM 88 Tomahawks.The S 300 certainly wasn't capable to counter a "cruise missile and an low RCS Air-craft 100 Nautical miles away" as you are trying so hard to feed us with.

then this system loosing in the recent Turkish competition at the very first doesn't help its reputation either.All these talks are useless anyway since IAF has already made its choice to go with the Barak 2ER - Akash combo which was the best thing to happen.

It is clear that your idea about these systems is fairly rudimentary,so read up a bit.Till then,you can write as much as you want,I won't be replying anymore.

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

Don't fall for that marketing gimmicks brah,the performance of your super cool S 300 hasn't been all that good.In fact during mid 90s,Indian Army did test the PMU2 version,often touted to be one of the more advanced versions of the S 300 and guess what??It was a disaster such a big that they rejected it then and there!!Actually it's the failure of the S 300 PMU2 that prompted the then GoI to approve the DRDO to initiate a detailed project feasibility study for the development of an Indian BMD. Rest is history.

besides,recent conflict in Lebanon has shown that this system isn't particularly effective against modern 4th generation fighters and LACMs like the BGM 88 Tomahawks.The S 300 certainly wasn't capable to counter a "cruise missile and an low RCS Air-craft 100 Nautical miles away" as you are trying so hard to feed us with.

Firstly lets believe that India did test, we rejected S-300 what alternatives do we have ?
Lebanon S-300 where older generations with awefull radar integrated ! its like comparing iraqi migs to american fighters !

then this system loosing in the recent Turkish competition at the very first doesn't help its reputation either.All these talks are useless anyway since IAF has already made its choice to go with the Barak 2ER - Akash combo which was the best thing to happen.

Turkey have gone for HQ-18, please take a loot at russian S-300 offered to turkey
Barak 8- or Barak 2 is years away from ground deployment, most importantly it has range constrain ! 70KM navel version will be tested than work of ground unit will start, which will get a range extention of 125KM, but it cannot intercept BM's

It is clear that your idea about these systems is fairly rudimentary,so read up a bit.Till then,you can write as much as you want,I won't be replying anymore.

I have't forced you to reply!

 

[RISING SUN]

friends here we are talking about point defence system. Indian defence forces are inducting such systems alongwith good recon and tracking hardwares. Like Akash Spider Barak etc. India is not in condition to place whole India under BMD umbrella for now, that's why we adopted more basic but robust way of safgaurding our homeland.

 

[Echo_419]

NEW DELHI: After basing its most potent Sukhoi-30MKI fighters at Tezpur and Chabua, India has now begun deploying six Akash surface-to-air missile (SAM) squadrons in the northeast to deter Chinese jets, helicopters and drones against any misadventure in the region.


Defence ministry sources on Thursday said IAF has started getting deliveries of the six Akash missile squadrons, which can "neutralize" multiple targets at 25-km interception range in all-weather conditions, earmarked for the eastern theatre.

"IAF has deployed the first two Akash squadrons at the Mirage-2000 base in Gwalior and Sukhoi base in Pune. The next six squadrons, as approved by the Cabinet Committee on Security, are to guard against any threat from the northern borders," said a source.

This long-delayed but finally successful induction of the Akash systems, developed by DRDO and manufactured bY defence PSU Bharat Dynamics, has also led to scrapping of the protracted discussions to develop the 'Maitri' short-range SAMs with France at a cost of around Rs 30,000 crore.

The Akash deployment in the northeast is in tune with the overall plan to progressively achieve "meaningful and credible deterrence" against China along the 4,057-km Line of Actual Control (LAC).

While the Indian Navy is currently better placed to take on Chinese warships in the Indian Ocean, the stark military asymmetry with the People's Liberation Army along the LAC, both in firepower as well as infrastructure, has long worried the Indian security establishment.

The steps being taken now to "deter" China range from development of the over 5,000-km Agni-V inter-continental ballistic missile to raising of the new Army XVII Mountain Strike Corps with over 90,000 soldiers at a cost of Rs 64,678 crore. Then, there is also the border military infrastructure development plan for another Rs 26,155 crore, as reported by TOI earlier.
IAF, on its part, has deployed Sukhoi squadrons at Tezpur and Chabua in the eastern sector as well as Bareilly in the middle sector of the LAC. Both Tezpur and Chabua are also getting their second Sukhoi squadrons, with IAF having inducted over 200 of these 272 fighters contracted from Russia for over $12 billion.


The force has also re-activated advanced landing grounds (ALGs) at Nyoma and Daulat Beg Oldie in eastern Ladakh as well as Vijayanagar situated at the tri-junction of India, China and Myanmar in the Changlang district of Arunachal. Similar work is underway at other eastern sector ALGs like Pasighat, Mechuka, Walong, Tuting and Ziro.

The new XVII Corps, which will fully be in place by 2018-2019, will give India much-required "quick-reaction ground offensive punch" for the first time against China.

All this is considered crucial since China can rapidly deploy 21 fighter squadrons against India with its eight operational airbases in Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) and some others just north of it. Moreover, the extensive road and rail links created in TAR ensure Chinese soldiers enjoy numerical superiority against Indian forces in a 3:1 ratio.


China, incidentally, has been conducting major exercises with its J-10, Sukhoi-27UBK and Sukhoi-30MKK fighters in the high-altitude Qinghai-Tibet plateau in recent times.

Good news strong borders will ensure lasting peace on Sino-Indian Border

 

[Echo_419]

144 Aakash SAMs

Unke fighter bhi to itne jyada hai

 

[trident2010]

Good development !!

 

[Echo_419]

Good to have a deterrence along the NE with the MKIs and Mountain Strike Corps along with all other associated infrastructure. I agree with the PM- a strong military position is paramount to peace. Give the Chinese something to think twice about but also continue with dialogue. The last thing India needs is a messy border situation like it has on its Western border and China is a nation India needs good ties with unlike her other troublesome neighbour.

Indeed this is a Asian Age,cooperation with China is a must but at the same time we should maintain a strong border posture.I am glad the new govt is up to this task

 

[Mike_Brando]

Akash=Buk?
in terms of capability?

Basically Akash S.A.M. is somewhat based on the BUK SAM but there exists quite a large no. of differences between the two.

The design of the missile is somewhat similar to that of the SA-6 with four long tube ramjet inlet ducts mounted mid-body between wings. For pitch/yaw control four clipped triangular moving wings are mounted on the mid-body. For roll control four inline clipped delta fins with ailerons are mounted before the tail. However, the internal schema shows a different layout with an onboard digital computer, no Semi-active seeker, different propellant, different actuators and command guidance datalinks. The Akash carries an onboard radio-proximity fuse.
Akash (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Vinayak Tiwari]

But presently, they are in deployed in Pune.

 

[Chak Bamu]

Enough Trolling - People have been warned and Thread Banned. Please continue civilly and maintain decorum.

 

[Superboy]

Wow, 25 km range? I bet J-10 can destroy it from 50 km away.

 

[Sergi]

Wow, 25 km range? I bet J-10 can destroy it from 50 km away.

Off course J-XX can destroy anything do you know how SAMs work !!!!!

 

[Superboy]

Chinese air force isn't Ukrainian air force. J-10B has such devastating SEAD capability that Akash won't even see it coming