ChineseTiger1986
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@chinese members
are you guys also building a 90000+ ac
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@chinese members
are you guys also building a 90000+ ac
^^ yeah right, even India, with all the IQ disadvantage it has, has finally figured out the importance of carreirs, hence makes its masse strip/die of hunger in order to save some $$$ renting Ruskies' second-hand attacking subs and buying Made-by-Ruskis carrier/s...it speaks volumns.
Economical agenda yes but not imperialist millitary agenda. China in its thousands of years history never invaded and occupy far away lands. It is hardwork to look after itself already, why bother trying to add more weight on to its shoulders by having to look after countries in other parts of the world? That I believe is America's duty and it is in their interests to do so, but not ours (Chinese).
Carriers have zero military value. Stealth fighters and bombers can't even use them. One bomb and planes can't takeoff nor land. They do however create a lot of good paying jobs for the Chinese and Russians economy. I think they are more of a government jobs program and for saber rattling.
What China does is export communism, a failed ideology and political system, that does nothing but create poverty and misery, and in doing so, killed millions. The communists simply does not like the fact that there could be, and have had, some who were willing to stand up against communism. Now that China largely abandoned communism, it is very convenient that you boys speak about China as if China is innocent of the blood that was spilled in the name of communism.True. Japan and USA are the two countries that have history of invading many countries and causing deaths to hundreds of thousands of civillians in other people's countries, something China has never done. Even in Chinese war with India(1960s? forgot the date) and Vietnam(1979?), there is almost 0 civillian casualties killed by PLA troops.
Can you boys be consistent with your arguments? Is the aircraft carrier still has some military value or not? I see silly claims from those who have at best two years of conscripted military service and most likely in low level and low tech jobs at that.Carriers have zero military value. Stealth fighters and bombers can't even use them. One bomb and planes can't takeoff nor land. They do however create a lot of good paying jobs for the Chinese and Russians economy. I think they are more of a government jobs program and for saber rattling.1996 was how long ago? F-18 E/F give me a break, they're slow and clumsy, even F-18 C pilots are laughing at them. Low max speed of Mach 1.8, low range of 700 km, (both of these are lower than a Mig-21 btw), low weapons load, you kidding? Maybe F-18 E/F can destroy Japan but send 1 here and the USN has 1 less plane to do maintanance on, send 10 and they'll have 10 less, send 100 and they'll have to replace the carrier.
the future is about missiles, unmanned planes, stealth fighters, nontraditional weapons including electromagnetic, kinetic and information, and space.China's Navy is still weak compared to even the Japanese Navy. That is even more reason why China needs 4 Carrier Battle Groups, with each CVBG having at least 4 Air Defence Destroyers attached. China also has low numbers of SSNs. Sure, China shouldn't follow USSR's footsteps, but abandoning the development of superpower military will cause China to be continued to be bullied by USA Imperialistic Agenda.
You must be describing China.Mafia bosses don't fight muscular people directly. They get their cronies and minions to surround them and scare them and insult them and push them around, but don't dare fight them.
Mafia bosses however love beating up small weak people and forcing them to pay protection fees and maybe even have some of his cronies live in their house.
China, as proven by the behaviors of the members here, is just as racist a society as the Yamato's. A militarily dominant China in Asia is very probable, if not inevitable. The question for Asia is what will the smaller Asian countries do? Silently submit to China's rise, or learn from WW II and unite, even in an unofficial alliance, their militaries and assert their independence. If unchecked, China will plunge Asia into another race-based war.but if China continues, it will eventually allow it to bully someone else with its imperialistic agenda ..right ?
What China does is export communism, a failed ideology and political system, that does nothing but create poverty and misery, and in doing so, killed millions. The communists simply does not like the fact that there could be, and have had, some who were willing to stand up against communism. Now that China largely abandoned communism, it is very convenient that you boys speak about China as if China is innocent of the blood that was spilled in the name of communism.
China, as proven by the behaviors of the members here, is just as racist a society as the Yamato's. A militarily dominant China in Asia is very probable, if not inevitable. The question for Asia is what will the smaller Asian countries do? Silently submit to China's rise, or learn from WW II and unite, even in an unofficial alliance, their militaries and assert their independence. If unchecked, China will plunge Asia into another race-based war.
Among military superpowers such as USA , China and Russia, it has little value but a face-lifting gadget, but to deal with third-rate wannabes such as India, try park 2 Carrier Groups in front of Mumbai and watch how fast M. Singh could run, well, he tries to run, in his advanced age?
^^ yeah right, even India, with all the IQ disadvantage it has, has finally figured out the importance of carreirs, hence makes its masse strip/die of hunger in order to save some $$$ renting Ruskies' second-hand attacking subs and buying Made-by-Ruskis carrier/s...it speaks volumns.
Yes you might...But it is irrelevant since China served as the Soviets' stooge in Asia and exported communism to Southeast Asia. You are telling me that you have never heard of the Vietnam War? I know I am debating with youngsters here but never thought history classes is that lacking.What? China exporting communism? Might I remind you that it was the Lenin who started communism, succesfully leading a revolution in Russia who then proceeded to lure as much as the world into a Communist system, not the Chinese.
And China has spilt blood in attrocious ways destroying culture in the Cultural Revolution, but this was IN China. He was talking about America spilling blood ABROAD through offensive operations, very different situations.
Here is reality for you...Stop the hate against China, you have no evidence that suggests China is developing it's weapons to aim at the Asian minor countries. More then likely, China is developing weapons so it's as modernized as the Japanese Self defense force, USA armed forces and others so it can hold it's own. Most likely the thought is too modernize the army as much as possible to make it not cost effective to engage in a war with China, not too impose military dominance towards Asian minors.
What will other Asian countries do? They will engage in diplomacy with China, thats what and they will benefit. It is not China who will plunge Asia into war, it is the american paranoia.
How dare those chinese build modern weaponry.... it must be for war and not self defense.... Such reasoning is rediculous
The Chinese boys here extended that reasoning to be that China has a 'Mandate of Heaven' to be ruler and master of Asia and to speak for ALL Asians because of innate superior Chinese IQ. Any Asian who dared to challenge or even criticize China's policies and politics in anyway made the person being a 'sell-out' to the white man. The false dichotomy here is: China or else.The CCP has always spread its culture using labels that evoke positive images but confuse reality; for instance, it has attached the label of "patriotism" to "supporting the CCP" instead of "supporting China." This has prevented the greater body of nationalistic Chinese people from voicing objection to the CCP by insinuating that that anyone who voices resentment toward their government is voicing disapproval of the Chinese nation.
Recently, the party has further spread its culture overseas under the label of "maintaining cultural tradition, cultural security and the independence of Chinese culture." Anybody who is familiar with the Cultural Revolution knows that China's traditional culture has in fact been wholly transformed in order to spread CCP culture. From the very beginning, the CCP never truly intended to promote Chinese traditional culture at all, but only used it as a means to promote itself and cover up its destruction of true traditional culture. However, we should not forget that the CCP has not been beyond reaping the benefits of the label "traditional culture" whenever possible. Two primary examples of this are the CCP's rejections of the ideals of Western democracy and religious freedom in the name of "protecting traditional culture."
Though the CCP has claimed a policy of "peace, cooperation, development," its true purpose has been to refuse democracy, freedom and human rights, and instead maintain its dictatorship.
Hey buddy, that mentality was what led to the result of the Vietnam War; pun intended.