Why waning powers meddle in Asian affairs

[Viet]

Why the Chinese have to invade Japan in return? What did China gain by invading Japan the "infertile Island"? So by your logic, the strong have to invade the weak to prove their power at any cost. Otherwise that is a pathetic and lame excuse. The fact was China only want the Japanese out of korean peninsula, and not to mention after the war in 1598, Japan had closed their country and stopped meddling the Mainland affairs for about 250 years until the blackship came. Please read more East Asian history, the Japanese sent their best army to conquer Korea because Hideyoshis wanted to become the King of China. Also stop calling Korean name cause this is so disrespectful.

my question is why China invaded Vietnam multiple times but never Japan?
the japanese slapped your face multiple times but obviously you liked it.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I am ready to admit I am wrong and leave this forum forever.

I've heard you saying you will leave this forum before, but I'm glad you have stayed. You help to fuel the anti-America sentiment here better than anyone else, no one else even comes close.

 

[Viet]

OK so maybe the US and Vietnamese Army should go back to the Greek and Roman style weapons? Since China invented modern guns and modern artillery?

you may be the first who invented guns, but VN made guns are more lethal.

 

[jhungary]

That's a stupid proposal, obviously I'm not going to make a firearm or a GUN, which Greek Fire is not, according to your own definition. And according to New Scientist publication.

You have zero sources left.

According to many source (Wikipedia included) Greek Fire is a FLAMETHROWER,

https://www.deadcalibers.net/flamethrowers-history/

Early naval battles were also won and lost on the use of fire to burn the wooden ships that served in many navies until the move to metal ships and carriers in modern times. Flamethrowers, at least a thing that “throws flames”, started as early as the Byzantine Empire, with the advent of Greek Fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fire#Hand-held_projectors

The portable cheirosiphōn ("hand-siphōn"), the earliest analogue to a modern flamethrower, is extensively attested in the military documents of the 10th century, and recommended for use in both sea and land. They first appear in the Tactica of emperor Leo VI the Wise, who claims to have invented them

and you can either say Flamethrower is not a firearm and you go make it and bring it down to your local police station, and if you are not arrested, I am willing to admit I was wrong, or, if you are not dare to do that, conceded that flamethrower is a firearm and admit you are wrong. It's that simple. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH AT

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

According to many source (Wikipedia included) Greek Fire is a FLAMETHROWER,

https://www.deadcalibers.net/flamethrowers-history/

Early naval battles were also won and lost on the use of fire to burn the wooden ships that served in many navies until the move to metal ships and carriers in modern times. Flamethrowers, at least a thing that “throws flames”, started as early as the Byzantine Empire, with the advent of Greek Fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fire#Hand-held_projectors

The portable cheirosiphōn ("hand-siphōn"), the earliest analogue to a modern flamethrower, is extensively attested in the military documents of the 10th century, and recommended for use in both sea and land. They first appear in the Tactica of emperor Leo VI the Wise, who claims to have invented them

and you can either say Flamethrower is not a firearm and you go make it and bring it down to your local police station, and if you are not arrested, I am willing to admit I was wrong, or, if you are not dare to do that, conceded that flamethrower is a firearm and admit you are wrong. It's that simple. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH AT

Yes, like I said, it's a flamethrower, not a gun.

So basically, New Scientist agrees with me, Oxford dictionary agrees with me, and your own Wikipedia source agrees with me. Sounds good.

 

[jhungary]

Yes, like I said, it's a flamethrower, not a gun.

So basically, New Scientist agrees with me, Oxford dictionary agrees with me, and your own Wikipedia source agrees with me. Sounds good.

So, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.

If Flamethrower is not a gun, then make it, it is not a gun, not a firearm, why will it be illegal then?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

So, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.

If Flamethrower is not a gun, then make it, it is not a gun, not a firearm, why will it be illegal then?

I'm not making a flamethrower, or a gun. Do you see they are two separate things?

ALL the sources agree with me. None of the sources agree with you. Even your own sources agree with me.

 

[jhungary]

I'm not making a flamethrower, or a gun. Do you see they are two separate things?

ALL the sources agree with me. None of the sources agree with you. Even your own sources agree with me.

So, Flamethrower is not a Gun eh? And they are two separate things?

Well, Hong Kong Law disagree with you.

Ordinance 238 of the Firearms Ordinance clearly stated that a Firearms is

https://www.elegislation.gov.hk/hk/cap238


槍械
) means—
(a)
any firearm;
(b)
an air rifle, air gun or air pistol from which any shot, bullet or missile can be discharged with a muzzle energy greater than 2 joules;
(c)
any portable device which is designed or adapted to stun or disable a person by means of an electric shock applied either with or without direct contact with that person;
(d)
any gun, pistol or other propelling or releasing instrument from or by which a projectile containing any gas or chemical could be discharged;
(e)
any weapon for the discharge of any noxious liquid, gas, powder or other similar thing (including an aerosol containing any noxious liquid, gas, powder or other similar thing which is not in general trade or domestic use in aerosol form);

Let's see, what is a flamethrower? Oh, does a flame thrower discharge of any Noxious Liquid such as Gasoline? Or Gas such as Natural Gas? And wasn't 槍械 = Guns in Chinese? And what do you call an item you have to have a Firearms License in order for you to legally own it? What does that thing called again? Was it "FIREARMS??"

So, if you think oxford dictionary and Wikipedia or New Scientist is on your side, then you should really Defied the Hong Kong law, after all, what do the Hong Kong Government know about Firearms? Eh?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

So, Flamethrower is not a Gun eh? And they are two separate things?

Well, Hong Kong Law disagree with you.

Ordinance 238 of the Firearms Ordinance clearly stated that a Firearms is

https://www.elegislation.gov.hk/hk/cap238


槍械
) means—
(a)
any firearm;
(b)
an air rifle, air gun or air pistol from which any shot, bullet or missile can be discharged with a muzzle energy greater than 2 joules;
(c)
any portable device which is designed or adapted to stun or disable a person by means of an electric shock applied either with or without direct contact with that person;
(d)
any gun, pistol or other propelling or releasing instrument from or by which a projectile containing any gas or chemical could be discharged;
(e)
any weapon for the discharge of any noxious liquid, gas, powder or other similar thing (including an aerosol containing any noxious liquid, gas, powder or other similar thing which is not in general trade or domestic use in aerosol form);

Let's see, what is a flamethrower? Oh, does a flame thrower discharge of any Noxious Liquid such as Gasoline? Or Gas such as Natural Gas? And wasn't 槍械 = Guns in Chinese? And what do you call an item you have to have a Firearms License in order for you to legally own it? What does that thing called again? Was it "FIREARMS??"

So, if you think oxford dictionary and Wikipedia or New Scientist is on your side, then you should really Defied the Hong Kong law, after all, what do the Hong Kong Government know about Firearms? Eh?

Can you point out if I posted your Oxford definition of "gun" or "firearm"?

I think you posted definitions without reading them. There is a definition for gun, and a definition for firearm (which can include guns). Did you even read it?

Basically all of the sources you have posted so far agree with me. That the first guns originated in China.

 

[jhungary]

Can you point out if I posted your Oxford definition of "gun" or "firearm"?

I think you posted definitions without reading them. There is a definition for gun, and a definition for firearm (which can include guns). Did you even read it?

Basically all of the sources you have posted so far agree with me. That the first guns originated in China.

Can you point out if I post the Firearms Ordinance of Hong Kong?

Again, do remind me what is the name of something I need to have a firearms license if I want to legally own? Was that called "FIREARMS"?

Again, if you think Oxford Dictionary is on your side, you should challenge the definition of FIREARMS in Hong Kong Firearms Ordinance. Make a flamethrower and show it to the police and say, "HEY! Oxford Dictionary does not think this is a gun or firearms" .

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Can you point out if I post the Firearms Ordinance of Hong Kong?

Again, do remind me what is the name of something I need to have a firearms license if I want to legally own? Was that called "FIREARMS"?

Again, if you think Oxford Dictionary is on your side, you should challenge the definition of FIREARMS in Hong Kong Firearms Ordinance. Make a flamethrower and show it to the police and say, "HEY! Oxford Dictionary does not think this is a gun or firearms" .

It is not a "gun" by your own definition.

 

[jhungary]

It is not a "gun" by your own definition.

If this is not a gun by my definition, then MAKE ONE LOL, What are you waiting for?

Can you point out if I post the Firearms Ordinance of Hong Kong?

Again, do remind me what is the name of something I need to have a firearms license if I want to legally own? Was that called "FIREARMS"?

Again, if you think Oxford Dictionary is on your side, you should challenge the definition of FIREARMS in Hong Kong Firearms Ordinance. Make a flamethrower and show it to the police and say, "HEY! Oxford Dictionary does not think this is a gun or firearms" .

 

[bbccdd1470]

my question is why China invaded Vietnam multiple times but never Japan?
the japanese slapped your face multiple times but obviously you liked it.

Are you implying that ancient Vietnam was inferior to ancient Japan? Japan was never as powerful as you claimed before their industrialization. The answer to you is very obvious, because in ancient time Chinese believe in unifying the land that was once belong to them and Vietnam was once part of the Chinese empire. We did that to Korean too since Northern Korea was once part of the Han dynasty. And clearly Japan was not.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

If this is not a gun by my definition, then MAKE ONE LOL, What are you waiting for?

Can you point out if I post the Firearms Ordinance of Hong Kong?

Again, do remind me what is the name of something I need to have a firearms license if I want to legally own? Was that called "FIREARMS"?

Again, if you think Oxford Dictionary is on your side, you should challenge the definition of FIREARMS in Hong Kong Firearms Ordinance. Make a flamethrower and show it to the police and say, "HEY! Oxford Dictionary does not think this is a gun or firearms" .

You still can't understand the difference between the two definitions you posted, one for "gun" and one for "firearm".

And do you think just because something is not a gun then you should make it?

 

[jhungary]

You still can't understand the difference between the two definitions you posted, one for "gun" and one for "firearm".

And do you think just because something is not a gun then you should make it?

There are not one for gun, one for firearms. Firearms is a category term cover all projectile weapon, hence it was called a "FIREARM LICENSE", you don't have one license for guns, and one license for firearms. They are the same license

you are arguing about whether or not Flamethrower is a firearms, it is, according to Hong Kong Law.

Can you point out if I post the Firearms Ordinance of Hong Kong?

Again, do remind me what is the name of something I need to have a firearms license if I want to legally own? Was that called "FIREARMS"?

Again, if you think Oxford Dictionary is on your side, you should challenge the definition of FIREARMS in Hong Kong Firearms Ordinance. Make a flamethrower and show it to the police and say, "HEY! Oxford Dictionary does not think this is a gun or firearms" .