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Why the west laughs about Putins "threats" for sanctions against EU and USA

ha ha ha next year it will be ahead of EU? How so? You plan to add another India and Brazil to come even? Do you even see how silly your statement is?
LOL Do you even know anything about Economy or just trolling around.
As i aready said in 2013 BRICS economy was 15.83 trillion against EU 17.35 trillion
So the difference between EU and BRICS is only 1.52 trillion dollars
The GDP growth of EU in 2012 was -0.4 and in 2013 0.1% only
So with this growth what will be the GDP of EU in 2015? With this GDP growth EU will be at nearly 17.5 trillion till 2015
And it's not hard for BRICS catch this with more growth rate than EU (way more)


In EU we have Germany as most powerful. But UK, France and UK come close.
But BRICS? China is so dominant that the rest is totally meaningless. South Africa has a lower GDP than the city Munich alone.
BRICS is China and its pets. Thats also the reason why we only show respect to China.
Now this is silly my friend
China have huge Economy with lots of reserve no doubt but as i said every country is important.
And with your this statement it also prove that in NATO you guys meaningless because USA is dominant.
If you are talking about Munich with South Africa than GDP of Mumbai city (Nearly 250 billion $) is more than Malta + Cyprus +Estonia + Latvia + Slovenia + Lithuania + Bulgaria (All countries are part of EU) :coffee:
 
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Putin is stupid. You can see this in the way he pushs his country into bankruptcy. He cant deliver gas and oil to china yet, simply because he lacks the infrastructure. At the momemt he simply kills himself.



nope, china even pays alower price than the lowest amount russia takes from belarus. Putin basicly got *** fucked.



how much oil and gas can russia deliver to china right now? :) tell me. The exact number. I can tell you... 0... zero. the gas fields arent even drilled yet, that will cater for china.

Most of Russian exports are oil. Gas makes a small part of Russian exports. Oil & gas account for around 54% of total Russian exports. Oil exports make up around 45% of that. Gas makes up around 9% of total exports. China-Russia already have oil pipelines and will increase in the future.

Russia has alternatives, Europe has nothing.
 
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Most of Russian exports are oil. Gas makes a small part of Russian exports. Oil & gas account for around 54% of total Russian exports. Oil exports make up around 45% of that. China-Russia already have oil pipelines and will increase in the future.
Russia has alternatives, Europe has nothing.


Yes it is a bitter truth that many in europe try to overlook.
 
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Cut oil and gas supplies to the EU and let the US lackeys freeze to what you know。:D

Russia has alternative markets in India and China。
India is looking for a gas pipeline from Iran for so long but cant because of the pressure from US and complexities with Pakistan. But after China's deal finalised with Russia, India is also looking forward to one for its own. Modi and Putin talked about it during BRICS summit. India wants a 40$ billion pipeline project from Russia but I really do not know how it is going to work.
 
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Most of Europeans are disagree with this political circumstance because will suffer business ,ordinary people but not politicians.
Now is summer , people are on vacations and not see real situation but in autumn when we will have higher prices will start problems.
 
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BTW, i don't think European Nation will suffer that much from Russian sanctions. Come on as buyer they had leisure to find another supplier who willing to sell their gas and oil to them. A lot of Middle East countries can do, African countries can do, even not to be known by most of PDF member, US has become the largest gas producer in the world thanks to their innovative technologies to manage oil and gas shale production into profitable business today. And surely they are ready to sharing the expertise to much their European companies counterparts. Aside from that, if people do read and doing some analysis about business and economics news nowadays they will found an anomaly in oil and gas prices movements. With a lot of conflict in Middle East and Russian threat of sanctions, the oil and gas price has been fallen into the most lowest in six month contrary to popular belief here.

And must be taken into note, Russian relies heavily into their oil and gas export to fueled their economics and states programme. The other Russian commodities contribution into Russian government revenue is not that much compared to their other commodities sector beside Oil and gas as you can read it here . World Development Indicators | The World Bank . In industries and manufacturing sector, Russia is not fared better even compared to India, there is much inefficiencies in Russian industry (automotive, weapons and electronics sector). Much of them is leftover of Soviet days, and with the same old bureaucracies.

and then when the European Unions starting to emulate their sanction and banned to import oil and gas from Russia, how do you think the Russian can fill the hole to be left in their export earnings? Are the Russian ready to lower their prices to attract other investor to buy their gas and oil?

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This was the 2012 figure.

The 2013 figure:

China: 9.3 trillion
Brazil: 2.25 trillion
Russia: 2.1 trillion
India: 1.88 trillion
South Africa: 0.351 trillion

The total GDP was 16 trillion in last year, and it will definitely exceed 17 trillion by this year.

ha ha funny rabbit

LOL Do you even know anything about Economy or just trolling around.
As i aready said in 2013 BRICS economy was 15.83 trillion against EU 17.35 trillion
So the difference between EU and BRICS is only 1.52 trillion dollars
The GDP growth of EU in 2012 was -0.4 and in 2013 0.1% only
So with this growth what will be the GDP of EU in 2015? With this GDP growth EU will be at nearly 17.5 trillion till 2015
And it's not hard for BRICS catch this with more growth rate than EU (way more)



Now this is silly my friend
China have huge Economy with lots of reserve no doubt but as i said every country is important.
And with your this statement it also prove that in NATO you guys meaningless because USA is dominant.
If you are talking about Munich with South Africa than GDP of Mumbai city (Nearly 250 billion $) is more than Malta + Cyprus +Estonia + Latvia + Slovenia + Lithuania + Bulgaria (All countries are part of EU) :coffee:

i would like a curry pizza please

Most of Russian exports are oil. Gas makes a small part of Russian exports. Oil & gas account for around 54% of total Russian exports. Oil exports make up around 45% of that. Gas makes up around 9% of total exports. China-Russia already have oil pipelines and will increase in the future.

Russia has alternatives, Europe has nothing.

dont be so short sightened...oh...wait xD
 
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BTW, i don't think European Nation will suffer that much from Russian sanctions. Come on as buyer they had leisure to find another supplier who willing to sell their gas and oil to them. A lot of Middle East countries can do, African countries can do, even not to be known by most of PDF member, US has become the largest gas producer in the world thanks to their innovative technologies to manage oil and gas shale production into profitable business today. And surely they are ready to sharing the expertise to much their European companies counterparts. Aside from that, if people do read and doing some analysis about business and economics news nowadays they will found an anomaly in oil and gas prices movements. With a lot of conflict in Middle East and Russian threat of sanctions, the oil and gas price has been fallen into the most lowest in six month contrary to popular belief here.

And must be taken into note, Russian relies heavily into their oil and gas export to fueled their economics and states programme. The other Russian commodities contribution into Russian government revenue is not that much compared to their other commodities sector beside Oil and gas as you can read it here . World Development Indicators | The World Bank . In industries and manufacturing sector, Russia is not fared better even compared to India, there is much inefficiencies in Russian industry (automotive, weapons and electronics sector). Much of them is leftover of Soviet days, and with the same old bureaucracies.

and then when the European Unions starting to emulate their sanction and banned to import oil and gas from Russia, how do you think the Russian can fill the hole to be left in their export earnings? Are the Russian ready to lower their prices to attract other investor to buy their gas and oil?

1024px-Russia_trade_percentage_2013.png

How fast do you think other suppliers will be able to deliver at the same price 30% of our gas demand? With what are they going to transport them? Do we have the infrastructure to unload them? Can other suppliers raise their output within the next 6 month to compensate?

Talking smart is one thing ...
 
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How fast do you think other suppliers will be able to deliver at the same price 30% of our gas demand? With what are they going to transport them? Do we have the infrastructure to unload them? Can other suppliers raise their output within the next 6 month to compensate?

Talking smart is one thing ...

And how do you thing, US and the west is able to compensate their oil and gas need during the 1973 Oil crisis incident?
 
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And how do you thing, US and the west is able to compensate their oil and gas need during the 1973 Oil crisis incident?

The crisis lasted half a year and did great damage to our economy and we had a driving ban on Sunday. Back in the 1970 the average usage of fossil energy was half of today. And the oil crisis was caused by a price hike, not a supply stop.

On top of that, in the 70s, we had full employment, no debt, fantastic economic prospect and none of the problems we have now.
 
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In food sector circulate huge money and this ban is shock for producers .
Shit happens these days.....
 
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